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What timer setting should I use for Panic and 2sm4d(3)?
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HV timer – 16:00 + 06:30 + 01:00
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the timer used on Diamond is – 19:00+08:00+01:15
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"OFB-10"
Registration is now open for the qualifying tournament for the most prestigious online HoMM 3 tournament on heroesworld.ru – "Final Battle"

Organizational matters:

1. Tournament leader – злой_романтик (ICQ - 296524052), organizational questions - skd (ICQ - 593626431); judges – Dima Surmay (ICQ - 263293484), Nitro (ICQ - 627769385), Dirty Player (ICQ - 408722873).
2. The tournament is official and regular, conducted according to the Rules for organization, conduct, and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. All tournament games go into the HoMM3 HW Player Rating.
4. After the start of tournament games, the tournament regulations will not be changed.
5. Disputed points, if any arise, are discussed outside the forum. For a resolution, you must contact the leader or one of the tournament judges via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
6. A draw result for a game is accepted only upon review of the save and agreement with the tournament judges.
7. Tournament games must be played within the established timeframe. For violation of game deadlines, by decision of the leader and tournament judges, a player may be penalized up to disqualification from the tournament.

Requirements for participants:

1. Heroesworld players with a site registration date before 01.06.2015 and having at least 50 rated games are invited to the tournament.
2. Players with a general same HeroesWorld rating of 1600+ have the right to free registration in the tournament.
3. Applications from participants with a HeroesWorld rating of 1599 and below will be reviewed by the leader and tournament judges on an individual basis.
4. Applications from participants who have unconfirmed reports will be left without consideration until the corresponding reports are confirmed.
5. The organizers reserve the right to refuse registration for players who have repeatedly withdrawn or been disqualified from other HeroesWorld tournaments.

Regulations


Rules:

1. Game version: The tournament is held on the SoD + HD mod game version 4.2+.
2. Patch HW_rulez 1.38 is used in tournament games (in case a new version is released, this point will be updated).
3. The tournament is conducted according to the rules for online games in Heroes 3.
Clarification to the rules: on XL+U templates, the "Mage Guild own" option must be enabled.
4. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
5. Templates:
Panic, 2sm4d(3), Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Jebus Cross, 8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider.
A fixed template will be set for each subsequent round in accordance with the draw. Each tournament template will be played once in the tournament.
6. Choice of towns:
Each tournament participant will play one game for each town.
After confirmation of registration in the tournament, the participant must send skd via ICQ or a private message on the forum a list containing information on which town and on which template the participant wishes to conduct the game. The towns specified in the list are not subject to change.
7. Choice of color: bidding is conducted for the right to choose the color; the player listed second in the pair makes the first bid.
8. In case players who declared the same towns for a template meet in a subsequent round, bidding for the hero is conducted.
Each participant has the right to cross out one hero, after which bidding for the right to choose the hero first is conducted. The player listed second in the pair crosses out first and makes the first bid. Bidding for the hero is conducted after bidding for color.


Tournament Format:

1. Registration from June 1 to 20:00 (Moscow time) June 12.
2. Start of tournament games – 13 June 2016. End of the tournament – 16 October 2016.
3. The tournament is conducted using a Swiss system in 9 rounds. Each round lasts 14 days: it starts at 10:00 on Monday of the first day of the round and ends at 20:00 on Sunday of the final day of the round.
4. Within the round timeframe, a report on the completed game of the round must be made in the tournament thread to record the tournament result. In case of failure to comply with this rule requirement, either a technical result or a score of 0-0 will be entered for the matches.
5. Round dates:
Round 1: 13 June – 26 June
Round 2: 27 June – 10 July
Round 3: 11 July – 24 July
Round 4: 25 July – 7 August
Round 5: 8 August – 21 August
Round 6: 22 August – 4 September
Round 7: 5 September – 18 September
Round 8: 19 September – 2 October
Round 9: 3 October – 16 October
6. 2 points are given for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 0 points for a loss.
Places are distributed based on the points earned.
In case of equal points, additional indicators apply in order of priority:
1) Buchholz Coefficient;
2) Number of wins;
3) Head-to-head encounter;
If it is not possible to distribute places between participants who have a chance to enter the final stage of the tournament based on additional indicators, tie-breaks will be held.
Tie-break rules: template draw, random pair of towns + bidding for town choice and color choice.
7. 10 players participate in "Final Battle–10":
Winner of FB-9 Maretti,
2nd place FB-9 Aiwe,
3rd place FB-9 KobRa_RR,
Winner of the "Only XL-3" tournament,
Winner of the "Favorites, to battle-8" tournament,
Top 5 places of the OFB-10 tournament.
Additions:
In case Maretti, Aiwe or KobRa_RR refuse to participate in FB-10 – their slot will be taken by the player who took 6th or a subsequent place in OFB-10;
In case the winners of the "Only XL-3" or "Favorites, to battle-8" tournaments are among the players who took one of the top five places in OFB-10 or refuse to participate in the FB-10 tournament, the right to participate in FB-10 passes to the finalists of said tournaments.
In case the finalists of the "Only XL-3" or "Favorites, to battle-8" tournaments also are among the players who took one of the top five places in OFB-10 or refuse to participate in the FB-10 tournament, their slot will be taken by the player who took 6th or a subsequent place in OFB-10.

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Noom
No time for a game – flip a coin and write a fake report.
I suggest finally allowing draws at the players' discretion, without the highest approval of the judges – this is a logical element of round-robin and Swiss-system tournaments.
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Nothing will be changed in this tournament. But before the next OFB, a discussion and a vote are needed. In my opinion, draws in OFB are less scary than in groups. Besides the fact of the draw, Cobra (although he didn't succeed and lost to yelen117, who refused a draw) showed that it also plays a role to drag out the game and wait for the others to finish playing, in order to determine his goals.
Весна 2013.
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I suggest finally allowing draws at the players' request, without requiring approval from the judges – this is a logical element of round-robin and Swiss tournaments.

In other words, legalize match fixing? By the way, CIS also uses a Swiss system.

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Roger-ua
Nothing will be changed in this tournament. But before the next OFB, there should be a discussion and a vote. Draws in OFB seem less scary to me than in groups. Besides the fact of the draw itself, Cobra (although he didn’t succeed and lost against yelen117 who refused a draw) showed that it also plays a role to drag things out and wait for the others to play so as to determine their goals.

Elena ended up losing much earlier than I did :) By the way, I won a couple of bets on this. Just need to remember who :D

Added 6 minutes ago
myduck
Bet 1.
Indra: Moretti
Me: Devkhan
Bet 2.
Cobra: Moretti
Me: Devkhan
Let's write in ICQ =))) to discuss the bets.
Last bet. Higher means if both are eliminated in the semi-finals, then you win.
Easy money (c) Cobra.
Actually, whatever...
I don't see any strong players left... willing to bet on themselves?:D
Bet 3
Cobra: Cobra
Me: Devkhan
No more bets accepted!:D
You can arrange your own adventure! KEK
Only your honor, dignity and reputation suffer.

Well, I found it))
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So, are you suggesting to legalize match-fixing? By the way, the CIS region also uses the Swiss system.

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Elena ended up losing much earlier than me :) By the way, I won a couple of bets on that. Just need to remember who I bet against :D
And so what if the CIS region also uses the Swiss system? A draw doesn't automatically guarantee first place, so it's not a very good example. And I'll repeat myself: a draw is a logical element of Swiss and round-robin tournaments. If some of the organizers dislike the very concept of "arranging a draw," then they should use an Olympic system or a double-elimination bracket.
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No time for the game – flip a coin and write a fake report.
Excellent advice :eek:

A point from the organizational issues of the tournament:

5. Disputed moments, if any arise, are discussed outside the forum. To resolve them, you need to contact the host or one of the tournament judges in ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.

What to do if you write a fake report, and you are asked to provide saves?

Section III of the tournament rules,
point "z" The tournament participant must play fairly and strictly adhere to the rules of the game.
Unfair play includes: cheating, map hacking, creating duplicates, clones, substituting players, forging saves,...

I hope few people share your opinion about writing fake reports.

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After reading Fira's reviews about Desse, I wanted to try it out ;) Naturally, with an eye towards the late game. It paid off. I was lucky that the early-game constraints weren't too significant, and I didn't rush to max out everything – I waited a day and learned the resurrection spell. Immediately, I had complete control.

Thank you for the game.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
Battle Report Accepted
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Десса / Dessa Start Hero Десса / Dessa
Десса / Dessa Main Hero Десса / Dessa
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Подземелье / Dungeon Faction Подземелье / Dungeon
Шакти / Shakti Start Hero Шакти / Shakti
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
145 days
Game Date
9/22/2016
Reported
9/22/2016 12:59 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Javdet 1521 1534 +13 ↑
malopom4lu 1473 1460 -13 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 9/22/2016 1:20 PM

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After reading Faiyr's reviews about Dess, I wanted to try him out ;) Naturally, with an eye towards the late game. It paid off. I was lucky that the early-game cons were small, and I didn't rush to max out his skills – I waited a day and learned Resurrect. Immediately, I had complete control.

Thank you for the game.
empty respawn points, empty treasures, and my opponent simply has everything on the road... I have nothing.
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it was a very one-sided game, and Rome was quite weak, so there wasn't much of a fight... Thanks for the game!
Initially, there was only hope for the generator. But it wasn't meant to be. Thanks for your time.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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The opponent conceded. I got Ivor with elves, a stable under the castle, a Griffin Conservatory, and Galthran — decided not to waste restarts on such an occasion. On day 1, week 1, month 3, I barely managed to take out 2 treasure boxes guarded by 40+ ogres with General's Statue and 40+ swordsmen with General's Statue on grass. They gave 2 boxes for 10k experience each, taken by Kyrre and Galthran, who leveled up nicely to 10th and 8th level respectively, both with Expert Earth Magic. On day 1, week 1, month 3 — Karl. But then the pace slowed down; I killed the Conflux computer and scouted a treasure zone with Hives, heading there on the second week. I farmed creatures, gathered resources for the Mage Guild, and slowly leveled up my main heroes. Throughout the entire game, I didn't find a single Dragon Utopia; I sent Galthran to another treasure zone in vain, while Kyrre trained skills. From the middle of the third week, luck started to return — I built Mage Guild level 5 and immediately got Dimension Door, but Kyrre had Advanced Wisdom and Basic Air Magic, while Galthran had Basic Wisdom at level 16 and Basic Logistics. I rushed Kyrre to an unfinished treasure zone with 2 boxes — both for 10k experience. Then Brissa powered up like a goddess in 2 turns — Expert Wisdom, Air Magic, and Logistics. And right after all the leveling, the opponent appeared in the underground area behind the mountains. Brissa with 2 casts of Dimension Door takes the army from Kyrre and returns it home, while Kyrre with 2 casts of Dimension Door on the last movement points covers Mülich who was boosted by Bracers of... Thank you for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Оплот / Rampart Faction Оплот / Rampart
Кайри / Kyrre Start Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Кайри / Kyrre Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Замок / Castle Faction Замок / Castle
Кейтлин / Caitlin Start Hero Кейтлин / Caitlin
Сэр Мюллих / Sir Mullich Main Hero Сэр Мюллих / Sir Mullich
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
141 days
Game Date
9/22/2016
Reported
9/22/2016 6:28 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Falcone 1683 1695 +12 ↑
u2noob 1618 1606 -12 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 9/28/2016 8:03 PM

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Excellent advice :eek:

A point from the organizational issues of the tournament:

5. Disputed moments, if any arise, are discussed outside the forum. To resolve them, you need to contact the host or one of the tournament judges in ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.

What to do if you write a false report and are asked to provide saves?

Section III of the tournament rules,
point "z" A tournament participant must play fairly and strictly adhere to the rules of the game.
Unfair play includes: cheating, map hacking, creating duplicates, clones, substituting players, forging saves, ...

I hope few people share your opinion about writing false reports.

If the players want to, they will agree to a draw on the 5th day, and there will be no questions. Why prohibit draws if, for example, it is beneficial for both players? There is no time for the game (they want to avoid an odd result and a loss), it is beneficial from a tournament point of view (it will help both to secure the desired position at the moment), there may be other reasons... and in this case, they will be right. If a draw helps me take first place, I will agree to it at any time. And if the opponent also needs it, why pretend to play? Wouldn't it be fairer to agree on it without playing and not post a false report?
If you want to fight against draws, make them less beneficial... Three points for a win, one for a draw, and players will start to think about whether it is worth agreeing or still finding time for the game.
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Bought the red one and went. Started without rests, on day 111 with 5 heroes: Moandar, Nimue, Kirr, and Luna in the tavern, a hidden stash of demons, and 2 imps. Then, there were indeed forks in the road, with 2 paths each, and Cerberuses on the third. Waited for the Ifrits and cleared the path. Took the village in the treasure area. On day 117, the opponent surrendered in the bird nest.
And didn't continue.

Thank you for the game!
Весна 2013.
Battle Report Accepted
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Пайра / Pyre Start Hero Пайра / Pyre
Моандор / Moandor Main Hero Моандор / Moandor
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Десса / Dessa Start Hero Десса / Dessa
Десса / Dessa Main Hero Десса / Dessa
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
117 days
Game Date
9/22/2016
Reported
9/22/2016 8:26 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Roger-ua 1561 1568 +7 ↑
Noom 1355 1348 -7 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 9/22/2016 8:29 PM

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Bought the red one and started. We began without any rests, on day 111 with 5 heroes: Moandar, Nimues, Kirr, and Luna in the tavern, a hidden stash of demons, and 2 imps. Later, there were indeed forks in the road and Cerberuses on the third path. I waited for the Ifrits and broke through. I took the treasure village. On day 117, the opponent surrendered in the bird nest.
And didn't continue.

Thanks for the game!
I gave up 2 hidden stashes of Cyclops, 1 hidden stash of birds, and boots on day 111. The opponent rushed ahead with dogs and goblins, and we cleared the respawn point with birds and a bear. On day 117, I went into the bird nest without any single units, with a Necromancer with haste and a shield, and I got completely wrecked there. I didn't want to continue. Thanks for the game.
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alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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If players want to, they will agree to a draw on day 5, and there will be no problems. Why ban draws if, for example, it benefits both players? They don't have time to play (they want to avoid an odd-numbered day and a loss), it's beneficial from a tournament perspective (it will help both players secure the desired position at the moment), or there may be other reasons... and they will be right. If a draw helps me take first place, I will agree to it at any time. And if my opponent also needs it, why pretend we're playing? Wouldn't it be more honest to agree on the draw and not post a fake report?
If you want to fight against draws, make them less beneficial... Three points for a win, one for a draw, and players will start to think about whether it's worth agreeing to a draw or finding time to play.
I've been trying to convey this idea for years.
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The opponent took a rest on turn 113, resulting in a difficult situation for him.
Thank you for the game.
Battle Report Accepted
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Гурниссон / Gurnisson Start Hero Гурниссон / Gurnisson
Гурниссон / Gurnisson Main Hero Гурниссон / Gurnisson
Победа / Def Победа / Def
skd
Синий / Blue
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Октавия / Octavia Start Hero Октавия / Octavia
Нимусса / Nymus Main Hero Нимусса / Nymus
Map Template
6lm10a
Game Length
116 days
Game Date
9/23/2016
Reported
9/23/2016 7:13 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Court 1361 1385 +24 ↑
skd 1597 1573 -24 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 9/23/2016 7:58 PM

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The opponent took a rest on turn 113, resulting in a difficult situation for him.
Thank you for the game.
Unfortunately, there were no other options. Thank you for the game!

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