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What timer setting should I use for Panic and 2sm4d(3)?
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HV timer – 16:00 + 06:30 + 01:00
45.9% 34 votes
the timer used on Diamond is – 19:00+08:00+01:15
54.1% 40 votes
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"OFB-10"
Registration is now open for the qualifying tournament for the most prestigious online HoMM 3 tournament on heroesworld.ru – "Final Battle"

Organizational matters:

1. Tournament leader – злой_романтик (ICQ - 296524052), organizational questions - skd (ICQ - 593626431); judges – Dima Surmay (ICQ - 263293484), Nitro (ICQ - 627769385), Dirty Player (ICQ - 408722873).
2. The tournament is official and regular, conducted according to the Rules for organization, conduct, and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. All tournament games go into the HoMM3 HW Player Rating.
4. After the start of tournament games, the tournament regulations will not be changed.
5. Disputed points, if any arise, are discussed outside the forum. For a resolution, you must contact the leader or one of the tournament judges via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
6. A draw result for a game is accepted only upon review of the save and agreement with the tournament judges.
7. Tournament games must be played within the established timeframe. For violation of game deadlines, by decision of the leader and tournament judges, a player may be penalized up to disqualification from the tournament.

Requirements for participants:

1. Heroesworld players with a site registration date before 01.06.2015 and having at least 50 rated games are invited to the tournament.
2. Players with a general same HeroesWorld rating of 1600+ have the right to free registration in the tournament.
3. Applications from participants with a HeroesWorld rating of 1599 and below will be reviewed by the leader and tournament judges on an individual basis.
4. Applications from participants who have unconfirmed reports will be left without consideration until the corresponding reports are confirmed.
5. The organizers reserve the right to refuse registration for players who have repeatedly withdrawn or been disqualified from other HeroesWorld tournaments.

Regulations


Rules:

1. Game version: The tournament is held on the SoD + HD mod game version 4.2+.
2. Patch HW_rulez 1.38 is used in tournament games (in case a new version is released, this point will be updated).
3. The tournament is conducted according to the rules for online games in Heroes 3.
Clarification to the rules: on XL+U templates, the "Mage Guild own" option must be enabled.
4. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
5. Templates:
Panic, 2sm4d(3), Diamond, Mini-Nostalgia, Jebus Cross, 8mm6a, 8xm12a, 6lm10a, Spider.
A fixed template will be set for each subsequent round in accordance with the draw. Each tournament template will be played once in the tournament.
6. Choice of towns:
Each tournament participant will play one game for each town.
After confirmation of registration in the tournament, the participant must send skd via ICQ or a private message on the forum a list containing information on which town and on which template the participant wishes to conduct the game. The towns specified in the list are not subject to change.
7. Choice of color: bidding is conducted for the right to choose the color; the player listed second in the pair makes the first bid.
8. In case players who declared the same towns for a template meet in a subsequent round, bidding for the hero is conducted.
Each participant has the right to cross out one hero, after which bidding for the right to choose the hero first is conducted. The player listed second in the pair crosses out first and makes the first bid. Bidding for the hero is conducted after bidding for color.


Tournament Format:

1. Registration from June 1 to 20:00 (Moscow time) June 12.
2. Start of tournament games – 13 June 2016. End of the tournament – 16 October 2016.
3. The tournament is conducted using a Swiss system in 9 rounds. Each round lasts 14 days: it starts at 10:00 on Monday of the first day of the round and ends at 20:00 on Sunday of the final day of the round.
4. Within the round timeframe, a report on the completed game of the round must be made in the tournament thread to record the tournament result. In case of failure to comply with this rule requirement, either a technical result or a score of 0-0 will be entered for the matches.
5. Round dates:
Round 1: 13 June – 26 June
Round 2: 27 June – 10 July
Round 3: 11 July – 24 July
Round 4: 25 July – 7 August
Round 5: 8 August – 21 August
Round 6: 22 August – 4 September
Round 7: 5 September – 18 September
Round 8: 19 September – 2 October
Round 9: 3 October – 16 October
6. 2 points are given for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 0 points for a loss.
Places are distributed based on the points earned.
In case of equal points, additional indicators apply in order of priority:
1) Buchholz Coefficient;
2) Number of wins;
3) Head-to-head encounter;
If it is not possible to distribute places between participants who have a chance to enter the final stage of the tournament based on additional indicators, tie-breaks will be held.
Tie-break rules: template draw, random pair of towns + bidding for town choice and color choice.
7. 10 players participate in "Final Battle–10":
Winner of FB-9 Maretti,
2nd place FB-9 Aiwe,
3rd place FB-9 KobRa_RR,
Winner of the "Only XL-3" tournament,
Winner of the "Favorites, to battle-8" tournament,
Top 5 places of the OFB-10 tournament.
Additions:
In case Maretti, Aiwe or KobRa_RR refuse to participate in FB-10 – their slot will be taken by the player who took 6th or a subsequent place in OFB-10;
In case the winners of the "Only XL-3" or "Favorites, to battle-8" tournaments are among the players who took one of the top five places in OFB-10 or refuse to participate in the FB-10 tournament, the right to participate in FB-10 passes to the finalists of said tournaments.
In case the finalists of the "Only XL-3" or "Favorites, to battle-8" tournaments also are among the players who took one of the top five places in OFB-10 or refuse to participate in the FB-10 tournament, their slot will be taken by the player who took 6th or a subsequent place in OFB-10.

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So, didn't anything in the logs bother you, like the fact that my opponent only chose 2 time slots for me in the last few days, and didn't show up for the first one!? Should I have immediately started posting on the forum that my opponent was stalling?

At the beginning of the round, you should have immediately requested an ODD, as I started doing after the game with Ed. With this particular tournament organizer, it's easier to request an ODD on the first day than to deal with the mess at the end of the week.
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alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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I read your message in ICQ, after which Antiplayer also wrote to me about the situation that arose.
Based on the ICQ logs, it was established that you had a problem agreeing on a game. This situation is the same as with Dark and Num in round 1. You did not report during the round that you could not agree, but reported the problem a day before the end of the round.

Regarding this situation in particular, I wrote yesterday in my message.
In general, it's a rather strange logic that you can't resolve it a day before the end of the round. There are at least 2 more or less adequate options: either award the win to the one who can play on that last day, since the one who can't play didn't warn in advance. Or declare a draw if you don't want to resort to the first option for some reason. But a mutual tech loss with both players losing points (and a decrease in the rating of those they played against)... it seems to me that it can only be applied if both players do not get in touch by the end.
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It didn't work out.
Thank you for playing!
Battle Report Accepted
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Кэлх / Calh Start Hero Кэлх / Calh
Видомина / Vidomina Main Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Крепость / Fortress Faction Крепость / Fortress
Тазар / Tazar Start Hero Тазар / Tazar
Тазар / Tazar Main Hero Тазар / Tazar
Map Template
Panic
Game Length
112 days
Game Date
8/8/2016
Reported
8/8/2016 4:00 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Heroin_HP 1750 1757 +7 ↑
u2noob 1528 1521 -7 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 9/2/2016 12:41 PM

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Good hand came in, there are necro and peasants by the town. I found 2 Griffin Conservatories not far from each other. In the first I farmed 240 bones, at the start of the second I'm breaking the Griffin Conservatories (3+1)... I have expert Earth and Air magic... but there was a very unpleasant moment due to the lack of Haste everywhere... I had to fight in the FB without it...
My army: 4 angels, 409 bones, 39 magogs, and stacks of 1 sultan each
Opponent's army: 3 angels, 169 caps, 8 mages, 330 bones, stacks of 1 gr. gargoyles each.
Oil on oil, stone skin on stone skin, and then a war of magic where I have a significant advantage. Opponent's bolt 110, mine 275
A hand follows!
Thanks for the game!
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Battle Report Accepted
Инферно / Inferno Faction Инферно / Inferno
Кэлх / Calh Start Hero Кэлх / Calh
Кси / Xsi Main Hero Кси / Xsi
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Видомина / Vidomina Main Hero Видомина / Vidomina
Map Template
Panic
Game Length
127 days
Game Date
8/8/2016
Reported
8/8/2016 5:25 PM
Rating Impact Archived
Gomunguls 2020 2029 +9 ↑
RozenKran 1859 1850 -9 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 8/8/2016 8:43 PM

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I would like what base to learn on did the honourable judge grant me the technical defeat in the game with Andreas???...
Repeatedly we arranged to meet with the opponent for playing the map, unfortunately when reached the meeting I got information that my opponent could play after 2-3 hours only...
We arranged to meet for completing our 05.08.2016 game at hour 19, just by chance my opponent appeared for 30 minutes earlier, knowing that I am coming to work precisely for hour 19 and asked whether I could continue... I appeared the way it had something arranged earlier on time, however waiting 2 hours, I came back to the work since there was no Andres.
On when end of the time for the round I am also coming to ICQ I can see the approachable opponent I am asking it whether we are finishing, what I am getting to answer that now I am playing and today I can't manage: D
So again what base I am asking on the judge gave me default or also a technical defeat in the game which I wanted to finish, and my opponent went to play the seasonal party for himself????
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Good surrender came in, there's necro and peppers near the town. Found 2 Griffin Conservatories not far from each other. In the first one I farmed 240 bones, at the start of the second one I break the conservatories (3+1)...have expert earth and air magic...but there was a very unpleasant moment in the form of a lack of haste everywhere...had to fight the FB without it...
my army: 4 angels, 409 bones, 39 magogs, and single sultans
opponent's army: 3 angels, 169 caps, 8 mages, 330 bones, single gr. gargoyles.
Oil against oil, stone skin against stone skin, and then a magic war where I have a significant advantage. Opponent's bolt: 110, mine: 275
surrender follows!
Thanks for the game!
Thanks for the game!
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I would like to know on what grounds the honorable judge granted me a technical defeat in the game against Andreas???...
We repeatedly arranged to meet with the opponent to play the map, but unfortunately, when I arrived for the meeting, I was informed that my opponent could only play after 2-3 hours...
We arranged to meet to complete our game on 05.08.2016 at 19:00. By chance, my opponent showed up 30 minutes earlier, knowing that I was coming to work at exactly 19:00 and asked if I could continue... I arrived as agreed, but after waiting for 2 hours, I returned to work because Andres was nowhere to be found.
When the time for the round was ending, I checked ICQ and saw that my opponent was online. I asked him if we were going to finish the game, and he replied that he was playing now and couldn't manage it today: D
So, again, I'm asking what grounds the judge used to give me a default or a technical defeat in the game that I wanted to finish, while my opponent went to play the seasonal tournament for himself????

If what Yaris wrote is true, and I can say that he is constantly online and ready to play every day, then even though I don't care about him as a person, and Andres is my good friend (although it is often difficult to coordinate with him, just like with my friend Cobra), I am on Yaris's side! However, I don't know why such a decision was made; maybe there was simply a losing situation... If what Yaris wrote is true, and I can say that he is online all day and ready to play for many hours, I'm not his friend, but Andres is my true fellow (and sometimes it is difficult to get him like my friend KobRa) - I have the Yaris side!.. By true I don't know the situation in the game, may be there was a worth position that's why it could be such a decision..
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The opponent chose their heroes first, so I built Gunnar with a focus on fast movement and two blue dwellings. I would have liked to add a Necropolis for a complete setup, but one wasn't available. However, they did find Solmyr, so life wasn't exactly a breeze. It was an interesting, close game where Gunnar's tempo ultimately gave me the edge. The opponent retreated after the first Fort Battle but immediately attacked again in an attempt to trade evenly. However, they miscalculated slightly and were defeated by a narrow margin.

Thank you for the game!
Battle Report Accepted
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Жозефина / Josephine Start Hero Жозефина / Josephine
Гуннар / Gunnar Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Аин / Aine Start Hero Аин / Aine
Сольмир / Solmyr Main Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Map Template
Panic
Game Length
135 days
Game Date
8/9/2016
Reported
8/9/2016 4:19 AM
Rating Impact Archived
Andres 1816 1827 +11 ↑
twaryna 1701 1690 -11 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 8/9/2016 4:19 AM

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My opponent chose their faction first, so I built myself a Gunnar on fast roads and 2 blue dwellings. I also wanted a Necropolis for complete happiness, but I couldn't find one. However, they found a Solmyr, so life wasn't a picnic. It was an interesting, close game, where Gunnar's tempo ultimately gave me the edge. My opponent retreated after the first Fort Battle but immediately attacked again in the second round to trade evenly. However, they miscalculated slightly and were killed by a hair's breadth.

Thank you for the game!

Thank you for the game!
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If what Yaris wrote is true, and I can say that he is constantly online and ready to play every day, then even though I don't care about him as a person, and Andres is my good friend (although it is really often difficult to coordinate with him, as with my friend Cobra...), I am on Yaris's side!.. However, I don't know why the decision was made there; maybe it was just a losing situation..

If Yaris wrote the true, i can tell that he is online all the day and ready to play the plenty of his time. I'm not his friend, but Andres is my true fellow (and sometimes it is difficult to get him like my friend KobRa) - i have the Yaris side!.. By true i don't know the situation in the game, may be there was a worth position that's why it could be such a decision..


There was no losing situation, Maestro, but there were the following points:

1) This is a note for all future opponents of Yaris. I corresponded with Yaris about the start of the round and immediately said that I would play for 2-3 hours. After 2 hours, a disconnect occurred during Yaris's turn. He created [a game], I entered and wrote: "last turn and I have to go" (while I meant that we would take one more turn each). He writes: "please, let me finish my turn." I write: "of course." I sit and watch the monitor. The progress bar slowly moves. I sat for about 10 minutes and realized that I would not be able to play anymore, his turn was too long. When I saw from the progress bar that the turn was already over, I wrote: "Make an auto-save so that you have time to remember it later" (I mean auto-save, not a regular save). Yaris immediately exits without transferring [the game]. I understand that there is no auto-save and I ask: did you make a save after all? ok... he writes: "Yes, the save after the disconnect..." I was surprised. In response to my questions, he gives the version that immediately after he started his turn, he received a call from a client and did not move at all. And then he decided that since he didn't move, it would be fair to continue from the same save. But all this looks illogical because: a) I saw how the progress bar moved very slowly for 10 minutes. I don't think this is a bug. Please explain to me if I am wrong;
b) how strange it sounds: he received a call from a client and could not move, but as soon as the progress bar reached the end, he left and immediately found time to prove nonsense to me for another 10 minutes;
c) in the end, even if everything was as he says, he should have described the situation to me so that we could make a decision together, and not just leave the game, putting me in front of strange and illogical facts...
After such actions, I drew my own conclusions about him and informed the Moderator. I can confirm all my words with the logs of our correspondence. I don't think this is the reason for those losses, but, let's say, a certain argument...
2) regarding the fact that Yaris is constantly in touch, I can provide logs of how I asked if he was free to finish the game and received a response in a day or two... I asked in the morning. So he is not always in touch
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I chose a couple of resource nodes and caught a Galtraan early on, so I wasn't going to pass up that opportunity. On the secondary resource node, I found a couple of bone deposits, so by level 121, I had already gathered 160 of them and immediately rushed out. At home, I built Giants in the Fortress, and used their upgrade to boost my economy later on. Gosha was leveling up like a king - offense, log, air, earth.
After finishing the Castle and Treasury and gathering enough resources, I rushed to my opponent, planning to mostly deal damage with 400 skeletons with Mass Haste and a cheaper Bolt spell for 275 (I took the Pandora's Box artifact for the entire second tier). In principle, that's what happened, although the final battle was quite close. Thanks for the game!


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Battle Report Accepted
Башня / Tower Faction Башня / Tower
Сольмир / Solmyr Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr
Галтран / Galthran Main Hero Галтран / Galthran
Победа / Def Победа / Def
Цитадель / Stronghold Faction Цитадель / Stronghold
Тираксор / Tyraxor Start Hero Тираксор / Tyraxor
Тираксор / Tyraxor Main Hero Тираксор / Tyraxor
Map Template
Panic
Game Length
133 days
Game Date
8/9/2016
Reported
8/9/2016 6:07 AM
Rating Impact Archived
Amiloo 1713 1731 +18 ↑
=Lizard= 1808 1790 -18 ↓
Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 8/9/2016 6:17 AM

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I picked a couple of rests and caught Galtran at the start; I couldn't turn down such luxury. There were a couple of bone caches on the secondary, so by 121 I had already gathered 160 pieces and immediately broke out into the open. At home, I built genies in the fort, and later accelerated my growth through their grade. Gosha leveled up like a king — offense, logistics, air, earth.
After clearing the Castle treasure zone and stocking up on stables with a folder, I rushed to the opponent, mainly planning to chop 400 with bones using Mass Haste and a cheap bolt at 275 (I took Pandora for the entire 2nd). In principle, that's how it went, although the finale was won by the skin of my teeth. Thanks for the game!

This is simply indescribable (like a dog near a baobab). On my part, I played absolutely perfectly, and one must ask once again, why??? To the point that at 131 Tiraxor, having doubled mana, visited stables and been defeated, was NOT bought back, so as not to be accidentally killed and then bought back the next day in a Castle captured the following day. Before the finale, I used spoons to kill Mikhail's genie and mage; I didn't have enough money to kill the remaining mage (another hero with at least 2sp hadn't arrived yet). However, this didn't upset me much, as that mage gave Galtran -3 morale. -3, Karl! There was no tactics there, and strictly according to plan, I crashed everyone in the 1st round after oil. The battle was with +1 morale +1 luck for me against -3 morale +1 luck for the opponent. In the end, naturally, it looked like 0 vs -1, 0 vs +3. I also had a resist that turned out to be useless. It ended with me planning to buy my way out on 4 vivs, but the skeletons hit with luck, and Tiraxor dies. And something similar happens in about 80% of games after CIS. But people think that control pulled from the Dragon Utopia in 1 out of 100 games compensates for this. You could just bang your head against the wall. Thanks for the game.
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Will distance make everything right, or has it already done so?)))


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If what Yaris wrote is true, and I can say that he is constantly online and ready to play every day, then even though I don't care about him as a person, and Andres is my good friend (although it's really often difficult to coordinate with him, as it is with my friend Cobra), I'm on Yaris's side! True, I don't know why that decision was made; maybe it was just a losing situation...

If Yaris wrote the true, i can tell that he is online all the day and ready to play the plenty of his time. I'm not his friend, but Andres is my true fellow (and sometimes it is difficult to get him like my friend KobRa) - i have the Yaris side!.. By true i don't know the situation in the game, may be there was a worth position that's why it could be such a decision..
Forget about it, Sasha) they'll put in two tech losses now... basically zeros... and people will leave:cool:

лето 2012.
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A very challenging tournament for the judges. Perhaps it’s necessary to consider a list of questions (allow opponents to agree to a draw, for example, including without playing, if things don’t work out) before the next OFB. Other questions may also arise. For those who didn’t finish the ODD, the time is Saturday at 18:00 or Sunday at 12:00, with the corresponding result in case of absence.
Весна 2013.

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