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Who is to blame, and what should we do?
90 voters
Multiple choice Public votes Closed 2016-06-15
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Nobody
11.1% 10 votes
Lizard, because I bought the game
37.8% 34 votes
Redwhite, because he sold the game
34.4% 31 votes
Dirty, because he accepted the result of the game
18.9% 17 votes
All others who knew but did not prevent it
18.9% 17 votes
Ayeve, because he DIDN’T sell the game to Hell to restore balance and justice
11.1% 10 votes
Do nothing
12.2% 11 votes
Deprive Lizard of his title
18.9% 17 votes
Ban Redwait from the AK
36.7% 33 votes
Include in the CIS regulations a ban on match-fixing and create a mechanism to monitor this
44.4% 40 votes
Don’t pair winners with losers
13.3% 12 votes
I don’t have an opinion; I want to see the voting results.
15.6% 14 votes
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That's exactly why I expressed my opinion in this topic (and I'm not telling anyone what to do, like kicking people out of the AK or stripping them of medals), where opinions are not so CRUCIAL, because the starter was asking for the public's opinion (of which I, as a player, streamer, and HeroesWorld user, am a part)
P.S. I'm done, thanks for your attention
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that is exactly why I expressed my opinion in this topic (and I'm not saying what anyone should do, like kicking someone out of AK or stripping medals), where opinions are not SO SIGNIFICANT, because the starter was asking for the public's opinion (of which I am a part as a player, streamer, and HeroesWorld user)
P.S. I'm done, thank you for your attention
And the opinion was "I'd send them all packing... and never come back"? Wasn't that the first message? :smile04:
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I would like to explain my perspective on a couple of points for which I voted. I was not among the participants in this event, and my opinion is based solely on what I read in this and related threads. I voted for "ousting Redwait," but I would like to clarify that, from my point of view, Zhenya should resign from his position in such a situation if he wants to remain in the administration – this is a matter of his conscience. What surprised me most was the attitude of some people towards this situation, people whose integrity I had not previously doubted. Yes, everyone has flaws, and all the participants in the incident can be understood, but justifying them? I hope this is done solely out of a desire to protect friends and not because they believe they are right. I would like to believe that this is the last such situation at these events, especially those that are grandly called the "CIS Championship." And friends, allow me to point out that it is not worth resorting to aggression; the community is already small, and we should value those who still play Heroes 3 at a high level and not let them fade away.
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I would like to explain my point of view on a couple of points for which I voted. I was not among the participants in this event, and my opinion is based only on what I read in this and related threads. I voted to "remove Redwait," but I would like to clarify that, in my opinion, Zhenya should resign from his position in this situation if he wants to remain in the Arbitration Committee – this is up to his conscience. What surprised me most was the attitude of some people towards this situation, people whose integrity I had not previously doubted. Yes, everyone has flaws, and all the participants in the incident can be understood, but justifying them? I hope they are doing so solely out of a desire to protect their friends and not because they believe they are right. I would like to believe that this is the last such situation at these events, especially those that are loudly called the "CIS Championship." And friends, allow me to say that it is not worth resorting to aggression; the community is already small, and we should value those who still play Heroes 3 at a high level and not let them fade away.

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let them take that team, and at the bottom, when Redwait started losing, let Hell play it against Lizard.
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let them take that team, and at the bottom, when Redwait started losing, let Hell play it against Lizard.
Great idea, but the nickname gives it away...
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The voting is certainly amusing... But in my opinion, none of the points are feasible. I've mentioned this before: perhaps not immediately, but gradually, everyone learned about the incident, but none of the players openly protested or complained; their silence is a sign of agreement. At first, this also bothered me, but I'm just a spectator, not a player. In general, I think something needs to be done about the games; I didn't like the current format, mainly because so much depends on the map layout. It's almost impossible to miss a chance if you have a good map and your opponent doesn't. When measuring skill among such skilled players, it should be based on skill, and luck can be measured by who faces whom. I don't have any suggestions on how to do this, as I'm not a player and don't play the game.
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Guys who are suggesting that Reddi should be kicked out of the Alliance, you don't know the whole situation, you don't know that the guy came to the CIS region in debt. He had certain financial difficulties, and someone helped him solve them. I'm not justifying him in any way, but I'm saying that do not judge, and you will not be judged, because life is like that.

And is the CIS region some kind of essential thing? It's a very difficult life situation, understand and forgive :smile39:

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And how much money, if it's not a secret, did Redwhait earn?) I'm just curious.
30 silver coins. I don't know how much that is in rubles.

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Yura, you're great, you know how to stir things up :smile20:
It's been a long time since we had some good drama :D
For those who weren't at the CIS and only heard about the situation through others, please continue to sink to the level of VKL. I think you're not only making me happy, but also many others :smile12:
Lol, he's throwing you under the bus. Otherwise, you would have quietly disappeared and people would have forgotten about you soon. But now they'll be talking about this topic for a long time
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What gets measured gets managed. You can't control the outcome of a match, just like you can't control a conversation in a smoking room. Therefore, the question is: how do you make people want to win every match?
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What gets measured gets managed. You can't control the outcome of a match, just like you can't control a conversation in a smoking room.
So, the question is - how do you make people want to win every match?

Pay them for each victory, like in the Champions League :D


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I'm just trying to put myself in both their shoes and can't imagine that I would think to buy or sell a victory in the most prestigious tournament™.
And apparently, I'm not the only one, since Hell and Ive didn't think of it either.

Now, of course, it's pointless to do anything, so I voted for the "do nothing" option. It's quite enough that the situation has become public and everyone can draw their own conclusions.
According to your votes, everyone is to blame except Reddit), what's the logic, brother?
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According to your votes, everyone is to blame except Reddit. What's the logic, brother?

I'm proceeding from the assumption that the future champion was the initiator of the deal. But as a result of the deal, Reddit only received a conditional 30 silver coins and a lot of negativity on the forum, while Lizard got the main prize and the title. I believe that the main blame, of course, lies with the initiator and the main beneficiary of the deal (it's hard to imagine that Reddit suggested selling the game; that would be beyond the pale).

And besides, the main judge of the tournament says that you shouldn't judge, lest you be judged (which, coming from a judge, sounds very powerful).
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I believe that reconsidering tournament results after the fact is just as shameful as match-fixing. The only thing that can be done now is to take measures to prevent this from happening in the future.
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