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Scorpiona

10 years ago

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"only XL-3"

The winner of the tournament will receive a medal for their avatar and a ticket to the FB tournament :smile49:

I. Rules and Templates.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod version 4.1 (or the latest actual version) + HW_rulez 1.38 (when a new актуальный patch is released, this rule item is subject to change).
2. XL templates: 8mm6a,8хм12а, 6LM10a, 8xm8a, Spider. Template selection is standard draft; the red player starts with the first pick.
3. Castle selection: random pair + trade
The host generates a pair of random castles using a special button. Immediately after generation, each player can request a regeneration once for 500 coins as compensation to their opponent. If at least one castle repeats during regeneration, that same player may (but is not obligated to) request a free regeneration until a new pair of castles appears.
4. After trading for castles, there is a trade for color.
5. Total number of restarts (113), i.e., 111+111+111, 111+112, 113
6. Time limit per turn with chess timer - 21:00+08:00+01:15
7. Roads are medium and fast
8. The option to rebuild the Guild of Mages is enabled.
9. Timeframe for one game: 2 weeks

II. Regulations

Stage 1 group stage

Two players who score the most points advance from the group.
In case of an equal number of points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger coefficient.
2. Head-to-head result.
3. Points scored in the game "weigh" more than those in technical defeats.
4. If it is impossible to determine which players will advance to the playoffs based on previous indicators, a scheme of transition games will be offered to the players. At present, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be developed based on the situation that develops in the groups at the end of the stage.

Victory - 3 points; defeat - 0; draw - 1 point (counted at the 211+ stage at the discretion of the organizers)

The group stage ends on May 31, 2016. (no saves or replays will be accepted, results will be posted based on submitted tournament reports)

Stage 2 Olympic system

June 1-3, 2016, the playoff draw will take place.

Two players from each group are randomly assigned to the bracket, with 1st and 2nd places.
Olympic BO3.

III. Organizational issues

1. The tournament begins on February 19-26, 2016 (determination of the final regulations of the tournament, drawing of groups)
2. This is an official tournament
3. The tournament is held according to Rules for organizing, conducting, and participating in online HOMM3 tournaments
4. Tournament host - Scorpiona (ICQ 469326983), organizational issues - rebellious (ICQ 345870761).
5. Tournament judge – Dirty_Player (ICQ 408722873)
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse participation in the tournament to a user without publicly explaining the reasons.
7. The winner of the tournament will receive a medal for their avatar and a ticket to the FB tournament :smile20:
Winners of past tournaments:

"only XL" AlexTheGreat[/B]

"only XL-2" Maretti

In reply to Sevensan

Mizrael

10 years ago

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Sevensan

Two weeks ago, he said we would start in 2-3 weeks. Two weeks have passed, and he still doesn't know anything, justifying it by saying that there are three months for the Tournaments, and he can drag things out as long as he wants, and my "desire" to play a final match with him doesn't bother him at all. At the same time, he calmly plays fun games every day with streams. To be honest, this is annoying.

Distorting facts and blatant lies. After the first game with Dark, he immediately offered to play, and quite insistently, which wasn't part of my plans because there were other Tournaments, and I wanted to see how things were going in the group. That's why I replied to him literally:
"Mizrael (09:54:59 26/02/2016)
I don't plan to rush things in this Tournament.
Sevensan (09:56:19 26/02/2016)
When will we agree on a game?
Mizrael (09:57:01 26/02/2016)
I think not soon, at least in 2-3 weeks."
It's unclear why he decided that we would start exactly in 2-3 weeks. The lie about playing fun games with streams every day was especially amusing :) Everyone who watches my streams knows that I only play on my days off (except for the stream on March 8th from work, where I was just killing time because you can't play seriously when you're constantly being interrupted).
Despite my answer, he continued to send messages offering to play, which were naturally ignored. It gets even more interesting: I receive a message: "If, for some reason, I don't have time to play with you later, I'm letting you know that you will get a tech loss"... So, he won't have time, but I'll get the tech loss... He's informing me as if the decision has already been made... At the same time, he didn't even hint in any of his offers to play that he might become busy at some point and would like to play as soon as possible; he was just asking to play. A reasonable person, if they anticipate being busy for a long time, would immediately explain the situation, ask to play earlier, and few Heroes players would refuse, but when someone is openly rude to you and then tries to portray everything on the forum as if the evil and terrible Mizrael is bullying the kind boy Sevensan, while distorting words and facts, then there is absolutely no desire to go along with it. Therefore, I will play with him closer to the end of the group stage; I have one or two days a week when I am consistently available, and I think we can coordinate :)

In reply to Scorpiona

Mizrael

10 years ago

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Bought a blue necromancer for 2400, Klavius leveled up normally, Tant was in the assistants, and Goshan joined in the mid-game. Necro'd some bones, fought off Pandora across the whole land with base wisdom... Well, at least I got animate :) With it, I took three Dragon Utopia on week 3, which gave a lot of stats and КВ. Immediately went for contact, but was slightly short on moves to cover Gunnar before the utopia, which he then took, having previously dragged away the console; looks like there were КЗ there, because he vanished... Chased him to take back castles to reduce his maneuverability, but it turned out that Gunnar had holed up in the computer's former Castle, where he was attacked. Claudius with water and a water book... Stats and teleporting bones decided it, thanks for the game.

Mizrael

Faction Некрополь / Necropolis

Start Hero Галтран / Galthran

Main Hero Галтран / Galthran

Победа / Def

spl1nter

Faction Подземелье / Dungeon

Start Hero Шакти / Shakti

Main Hero Гуннар / Gunnar

Map Template: 6lm10a
Game Length: 142 days
Game Date: 3/11/2016
Reported: 3/11/2016 6:37 PM

Mizrael 1656 → 1660 +4 ↑

spl1nter 1358 → 1354 -4 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/12/2016 9:03 AM

In reply to R@sIM

Noom

10 years ago

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R@sIM

Thanks for the game! :D

The opponent unexpectedly decided to play 8xm8a. He re-started for a chocolate start, but due to unfamiliarity with the template, he messed it up (for Conflux, the external dwelling of air elementals, water elementals at 4 Hive and КВ behind medusas) because he tried to break through blocks to the second town via the underground on the first week and naturally lost his entire army. On the second week, with his remaining power stack, he jumped into a Hive without scouting — it turned out to be a max-level dwelling, so he decided not to continue. Thanks for the game.

In reply to Mizrael

cost

10 years ago

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On day 1, I didn't burn anything worthwhile except a beehive blocking the road, but I got going thanks to 5 heroes + a troglodyte upgrade for -5k. On day 2, things took off. An external dragon dwelling behind the gorgons and +1 speed. On day 113, I took the external dwelling; on day 114, I pulled Tamika with expert logistics out of prison. Day 115, I take the obelisk for 8 Vivi, give them to Tamika, and go necromancing, while on 2 dragons, a miner goes the other way. I took a Griffin Conservatory-1 there, burned a couple more beehives and 3 Dragon Utopias, squeezed out 2 computers, burned another external dragon dwelling on my own respawn, but due to beer I messed up, had to fiddle with chains, and finally broke through to a second external dwelling on day 127, but after the fight there was one second left—I didn't buy the dragon (but I did find another dungeon village). In the end, I got a beatdown from the opponent; the roads weren't great there. Thanks for the game!

cost

Faction Подземелье / Dungeon

Start Hero Шакти / Shakti

Main Hero Шакти / Shakti

Победа / Def

Mar

Faction Цитадель / Stronghold

Start Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack

Main Hero Крег Хак / Crag Hack

Map Template: 8mm6a
Game Length: 127 days
Game Date: 3/12/2016
Reported: 3/12/2016 12:39 AM

cost 1578 → 1592 +14 ↑

Mar 1548 → 1534 -14 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/12/2016 12:57 AM

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Mar

10 years ago

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Started playing from my native town + Dess appeared. Up the road, a lift to the underground with 50+ fire elementals. Went along another road. From there, I got into the underground. And on day 114 I realized it led to a dead-end village. In this zone (adjacent zone) I opened the lookout tower, but even it didn't show me the exit to the enemy town. It was there but right in the ass. Decided to go through the fire elementals to the 2nd one. They had 80+ of them there with gr. - broke through, on the other side champions 10-19 I didn't touch (the meat melted considerably). Went to the village. But nothing worthwhile there. And this is all 8mm6a. Fucking hell.
Thanks for the interesting game.

In reply to Mizrael

spl1nter

10 years ago

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Mizrael

Bought a blue necromancer for 2400, Klavius leveled up normally, Tant was in the assistants, and Goshan joined in the mid-game. Necro'd some bones, fought off Pandora across the whole land with basic wisdom... Well, at least I got animate :) With it, I took three Dragon Utopia on week 3, which gave a lot of stats and КВ. Immediately went for contact, but was slightly short on moves to cover Gunnar before the utopia, which he then took, having previously dragged away the council; looks like there were КЗ there, because he vanished... Chased him to take back castles to reduce his maneuverability, but it turned out that Gunnar had holed up in the computer's former Castle, where he was attacked. Claudius with water and a book of water... Stats and teleporting bones decided it, thanks for the game.

Thanks for the game!

In reply to Mizrael

Sevensan

10 years ago

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Mizrael

Distorting facts and outright lying. After the first game with Dark, he immediately offered to play again, and quite insistently, which wasn't part of my plans, as there were other Tournaments, and I wanted to see how things were going in the group. That's why I replied to him directly:
"Mizrael (09:54:59 26/02/2016)
I don't plan on rushing into this Tournament.
Sevensan (09:56:19 26/02/2016)
When can we schedule a game?
Mizrael (09:57:01 26/02/2016)
I don't think it will be soon, maybe in 2-3 weeks at the earliest."
It's unclear why he decided that we would definitely start in 2-3 weeks. The lie about him streaming every day was especially amusing. Everyone who watches my streams knows that I only play on my days off (except for the March 8th stream from work, which was just to kill time, because you can't play seriously when you're constantly being interrupted).
Despite my answer, this person continued to send messages suggesting a game, which, of course, were ignored. Then it got even more interesting; I received a message: "If, for some reason, I don't have time to play with you later, I'm letting you know that you'll get a technical loss..." So, he won't have time, but I'll get the tech loss... He's informing me as if the decision is already made... At the same time, in all his suggestions to play, he didn't even hint that he might become very busy after some time and would like to play as soon as possible; he was just asking to play. A reasonable person, knowing they might be busy for a long time, would immediately explain the situation, ask to play earlier, and few Heroes players would refuse, but when someone is openly rude to you and then tries to portray themselves on the forum as if the evil and terrible Mizrael is bullying the good boy Sevensan, while distorting words and facts, there's absolutely no desire to accommodate them. Therefore, I will play with him closer to the end of the group stage; I have one or two days a week free, I think we can coordinate :)

You don't seem to understand. I wrote to you every three or four days, "let's choose a date for the game." You don't want to rush? Fine, that's your choice. Just tell me a date! Just give me a date! But you are incapable of doing that. Completely. And that annoys me. Which is what I wrote about above. That you are completely irresponsible towards the Tournament. "We'll play sometime later, sometime." That doesn't work for me.

I won't write to you anymore, and if your esteemed majesty deigns to write to me in the last weeks of the Tournament, you will be completely ignored, and you can play against yourself as much as you want. Or the judge will authoritatively set a date for the game so that I don't have to deal with your unstable mind and these complicated questions.

Am I distorting anything? You wrote "A," so write "B" too.

335665133 (21:06:50 24/02/2016)
Hey, Tournament?
(Only XL)
Mizrael (21:07:07 24/02/2016)
I've already played enough today.)
335665133 (21:07:17 24/02/2016)
lol, when are we playing?
Mizrael (21:07:26 24/02/2016)
We'll chat later.

335665133 (15:42:47 29/02/2016)
When can we schedule a game? Let's choose a date and time.
335665133 (13:53:45 5/03/2016)
Hey, let's choose a date for the game.
335665133 (22:53:14 5/03/2016)
Why are you playing with Splinter and ignoring me?
Mizrael (22:53:34 5/03/2016)
I told you when we would play.
335665133 (22:53:57 5/03/2016)
I'm telling you to choose a date, not some abstract "in 2-3 weeks."
Mizrael (22:54:11 5/03/2016)
We'll choose it in 2-3 weeks.
335665133 (22:54:31 5/03/2016)
If, for some reason, I don't have time to play with you later, I'm letting you know that you'll get a technical loss.
335665133 (22:54:51 5/03/2016)
And I won't have much time to play soon.

I immediately wrote to you that I wouldn't have much time. All the best to you.

In reply to Sevensan

LuckyF

10 years ago

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what passions:smile04:

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skd

10 years ago

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It's high time to schedule all group stages. The abstract term "2 weeks per game," where one player plays one game, and the other might only finish all their games, just prolongs the group stage. Moreover, those who don't play their games quickly might end up arranging draws that suit them in the tournament standings. Such shenanigans, for example, happened in Favorites-6. It's much more convenient to create a schedule where there's one specific game in the group between player A and B, and C and D, for two weeks. After two weeks, a new schedule is made for the next round. This way, you can also penalize those who play poorly, and if there are, for example, 5 rounds in the group, the group stage will take 10 weeks without any extensions. Otherwise, in almost all tournaments with groups, the group stage has to be extended.

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Dirty_Player

10 years ago

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skd

It's high time to schedule all group stages.

I like the idea of deadlines, 2 games within a certain period (a month). Then, at least, you have to deliver a result. Otherwise, we sometimes reach extremes when, a week after the start of the group stage, some shady individuals ask to schedule the ODD (Overall Decisive Day) :D

In reply to Mizrael

Iamsamstan

10 years ago

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Purchased blue Conflux for 4500, we played without rerolls, Labetha arrived, air elementals were built, a couple of crypts and a stable, but there wasn't very much money. Lucky I was able to kill the native AI's Luna on day 116 and scraped together enough gold for birds in the fort; on day 1 I also took the native village. On day 121, with the birds, I captured the AI's castle and went into the treasure zone. There I found Wyverns and a few Angels, found a sword +6 and 2 Dragon Utopias, which I took at the start of week 3; they gave Wings and some stats. Labetha leveled up all magic elements, so I started looking for the opponent. Gunnar, Gurney, and Fiur showed up. I leveled them all a bit, gathered a stack in the respawn of the brown and orange players, ending up with 15 of them total; then I ran through the center and found the red player. First I took a dead-end village, then the main one. I saw the opponent's heroes and army on a scout hero, bought a scout hero in the castle and killed them. I had an advantage in army and stats; the opponent surrendered. Thanks for the game!

Iamsamstan

Faction Сопряжение / Conflux

Start Hero Лабета / Labetha

Main Hero Лабета / Labetha

Победа / Def

TT_HNK

Faction Башня / Tower

Start Hero Сольмир / Solmyr

Main Hero Сольмир / Solmyr

Map Template: 8mm6a
Game Length: 143 days
Game Date: 3/12/2016
Reported: 3/12/2016 1:51 PM

Iamsamstan 1340 → 1360 +20 ↑

TT_HNK 1477 → 1457 -20 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/12/2016 1:58 PM

In reply to Dirty_Player

Mizrael

10 years ago

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You seem to be taking the tournament very lightly. "We'll play sometime later." That doesn't work for me.

That's your opinion, but I think I'm taking it very seriously. Calmly and methodically :) If you're not happy with the tournament rules that you personally signed up for, I don't know what to suggest :) I'm not going to set a specific date when there's still plenty of time ahead, and I have every right to do so. The "majesty" comment amused me :) Throughout our communication, there has been no rudeness or personal attacks on my part (which, by the way, you abuse, making up all sorts of things; well, dogs bark, but the caravan moves on). And the fact that you're uncomfortable with the uncertainty doesn't really bother me.

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TT_HNK

10 years ago

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Thank you for playing!

In reply to Mizrael

Jubi-Juby

10 years ago

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The opponent behaved extremely disrespectfully and unpleasantly throughout the entire game:( First, he accused me of not letting him renegotiate for a couple of Castle-Tower units:) Writing that he apparently hadn't seen the first line in the game about which castles the randomizer had given. To which I asked him an obvious question: "How did you negotiate? Blindly?" Then, the game was always suddenly interrupted at the opponent's request, as he unexpectedly had to leave:D But the most interesting thing is that when loading the save, he didn't give me time to remember my turn:) He explained this by saying that it wasn't written anywhere in the tournament rules:) Well, and finally, he refused to give me his password, admitting defeat on turn 212. I won't thank such a rotten opponent for the game:smile18:
P.S. I defeated the opponent without giving him a chance:smile34:

Jubi-Juby

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Кейтлин / Caitlin

Main Hero Клавиус / Clavius

Победа / Def

CanaBeasT

Faction Башня / Tower

Start Hero Аин / Aine

Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre

Map Template: 6lm10a
Game Length: 212 days
Game Date: 3/12/2016
Reported: 3/12/2016 10:06 PM

Jubi-Juby 1724 → 1732 +8 ↑

CanaBeasT 1539 → 1531 -8 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 3/13/2016 3:20 AM

In reply to Mizrael

silenthill

10 years ago

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Bought a ramp for 3700 and sold color for 1200. Difficult generation both in terms of blocks and money. Near the computer, 2 blocks and 100 marks on the grass. Got lucky with conservatories and Müllich, who was taken without any problems. By week 3, I gathered 17 angels and broke 3 Dragon Utopia. But they didn't really give anything useful. Ran straight to the opponent with 17 angels and 8 firebirds. The opp doesn't leave the main in the castle, having a chain spell with boost. Didn't dare attack. Went to collect more Dragon Utopia right under the opp's nose, where КВ and КО were given. Decided on the power-up next. On their turn, the opp attacks with -2 deer and dies without any chance for them. Thanks for the game.