Posts from Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.

Is this like, the "bots" of Hell attacking?:D Instead of factual argumentation, there are emotional outbursts.

P.S. The tennis player's racket broke.
Will they let him replay the point? Not the game, not the set, but specifically that rally where it broke?

It's strange, but they allowed it.
And in the case where all the serves came from one "tennis player," they considered it fair and didn't replay it.

And there wasn't enough time for the most important action!!!

Lucky, the subject of contention has long ceased to interest Vic;
Here, it's a matter of sporting interest for the president of the "discussion club":D

Of course, several simple questions arise.

Well, these are somewhat different things: talking about lags and when you can see on stream that these lags actually occur and prevent completing a turn.

I didn't quite understand how applying the standard rules of the game directly relates to resolving this situation.

As I understand it, the Appeals Committee (AK) is needed in principle for considering specific situations because if one always follows strictly "simple and clear" rules, then the AK is not needed at all. And judges aren't needed either.

And since the AK exists, its collegial decision becomes higher than the rules when addressing it.

By analogy with judicial practice, where there is a concept called "precedent." This particular situation arose. The AK considered it and made a decision, i.e., fulfilled its direct purpose.

When RC8 was released, it was stated that mice with DPI higher than 2000 might experience lag. To prevent this lag, you need to disable a tweak in the HD mod settings.

... the president of the flood club came to mark his territory, #timeforfun ... :)

Where exactly was it written? I can't find the post...

You didn't watch the stream video; you shouldn't understand anything, so why are you making these claims now? I just think that to operate with facts in a situation, one needs to see it. Did you see it?

Furthermore, you say let him try using the cage, but what guarantee is there that, in a panic, he would have enough of those 5-10 seconds, or however much time was lost on this "bug," and that he would actually make such a decision, rather than sit in confusion/indecision for those conditional 5-10 seconds?

Well, it's a bit of a different thing: talking about lag and when you can actually see the lag happening on the stream and hindering the completion of a turn.

How do you prove that Hell's hand was controlling the mouse? How do you prove that Hell was controlling it from his computer, and not remotely?

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No, I didn't watch the recording, but after reading the thread, I drew conclusions. Or does my argument not make sense without watching the video? If that’s the case, there is no need to watch it; everything is clear anyway.

Yes, with all due respect... I find it strange to see such an uproar from you about such an obvious case (unlike the previous situation). Sav's post about this bug appeared a) in the Heroes of Might and Magic forum, not the Might and Magic forum, and b) a day after Hell's request. The post by the "baratorch" user, which Sav refers to, was actually on the DF2 forum, and players are not required to know about its existence. The "baratorch" user himself did not consider the described bug to be an obvious consequence of installing the version (otherwise, there would have been a warning in the changelog). Therefore, Hell is not to blame for what happened. Yes, he could have used the timer more efficiently, but no, he was not obliged to play around the fact that the game would lag for 5-7 seconds. Given that the stream clearly shows that he was already performing the necessary action when the last second ticked (and no, he wouldn't have spent another 5-10 seconds thinking before clicking when the last seconds of the timer were running), this is a no-brainer for the adjudicator, not a complex and controversial situation.

I understand that it is quite frustrating that the adjudicator resolved the previous, less obvious situation not in your favor, and there is a understandable feeling of injustice and a desire to "get even," but in this case, Hell's request is very modest and fair (with such a bug, a more assertive player could have asked for a full N seconds for all the necessary actions).