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Hello everyone.

While playing WOG, I encountered a problem – Expert Diplomacy becomes completely unnecessary, whether with the Ring, Medal, and Ribbon, or without. This wasn't the case in version 3; my Necromancer, with all this equipment, could gather 50% of the wandering monsters (for their quick demise, of course:D).

Is my observation actually correct, or is there a different way to use this diplomacy, and does it manifest differently in WOG?

the ring, medal, and ribbon give you the ability to buy and sell goods in the market, not to recruit creatures to your army. You should recruit your own creatures, not others' – that's why diplomacy is needed!!! :smile24:

450 monks??? :confused: Is this only possible on an XL-sized map and in the tenth game month? Maybe it makes sense on huge maps. But I'd rather take Earth Magic instead of Diplomacy and complete the map in 4 game months.

Actually, there aren't two or one and a half, as they say... :) Diplomacy isn't needed for the main hero, and that's correct...

But it can be given to a secondary hero – especially in the early stages of the game – and it turns out to be a very useful skill for your kingdom as a whole, because it helps solve many problems at the start (you can use meat for experience, and you can also somewhat cover your main army). But if you remember the old tournament in the third game (Best of the Best), then here is a clear example – when 1.5k gargoyles and almost 1k vampires join in the beginning of the second month. So, it's not worth talking about its uselessness...

But diplomatic artifacts are really almost useless junk, because they are not taken into battle, and they don't work in your backpack... :)

I'm not very involved in tournaments; it's like Pluto is from the Sun. The tactics there are completely different. I'm talking about a regular game against the AI. In 7 years of playing, I managed without diplomacy :D. It's a habit from the second game.

Your observation is not entirely correct.

In reality, everything depends on the map itself (and even more on the initial save generated on the map!!!). That is, the map developer can assign loyalty to each monster! And if you have diplomacy, the percentage of joining such a monster (loyal to joining) will be much higher with expert diplomacy than without it!
This is described in more detail in the Ambera Solera textbook: The Physics of the Heroes World!
There you will find answers to all your questions.

Sincerely, VDV_forever

450 monks??? :confused: Is this if the map is XL size and it's the tenth in-game month? Maybe on huge maps, it somehow justifies itself. But I'd rather take Earth magic instead of diplomacy and complete the map in 4 in-game months ;)