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I don't like the dragon from Heroes of Might and Magic VII. It doesn't fit in terms of appearance or tactics – we already have tanky Ents. Also, walking dragons are not original – similar ones exist for the Dwarves. Furthermore, it's not canonical from the perspective of the classic games.

Oh, come on, let's not make everything like it was in the third game – that's absurd. Earth is something large, unwieldy, sturdy, robust, indestructible, slow, and powerful, and most likely not flying. Besides, the argument about lack of originality isn't valid, because just as you said, "walking dragons aren't original – the Dwarves have similar ones," you can say the same about a flying Air Elemental dragon – the Elves have similar ones
In terms of tactics, the Unicorn has been replaced by a Phoenix – meaning the ratio of infantry to flying units in the elite troops hasn't changed.

Yes, the Tower also has flying dragons, but that makes sense – flying dragons are a classic, and walking ones are an exception. Exceptions shouldn't become the rule by being repeated for two factions at once.

Besides, there's a fundamental difference between light and dark dragons – it's about initiative and power. The former have initiative, while the latter are more powerful.

And, well, if a level 5 unicorn is replaced by a phoenix, then of course, replacing a flying dragon with a ground unit is a lesser evil. :)

Why not keep the classic unicorns and replace the dragon with a phoenix? Or was the phoenix specifically designed as a flying unit to replace the unicorn? If so, it would have been better to try pegasi, in my opinion.

And "earth" doesn't really fit with a rushing faction; you'd have to completely rework the entire faction. In terms of gameplay, I'd say that the elves worship a dragon of air, not earth. And it's in this context that the dragons from Heroes 7 don't really fit here. But if you really want to see them, you could consider them as a replacement for the ents.

that's why the elves turned out to be so contradictory

On the contrary, the Elves as a faction turned out to be cohesive and logical. Again, the discrepancies with the later version of Ashan are Ashan's (Ubisoft's) problems, not the game itself. :)

But I understand (although I don't agree) the desire to adhere to the canon; I simply don't care much about the plot and Ubisoft's further attempts to develop Ashan. Gameplay and its consistency are much more important to me. I base my decisions on these criteria.

In my mod, by the way, the Elves are implemented as a faction with an emphasis on initiative and defense (i.e., with weak damage). However, this is not justified by the land, and having a double set of tank infantry units at the top (Ents and Treants) would still not look very good. Therefore, I suggested that if dragons are to be included, they should only replace the Ents – this is logical, as two units, especially of adjacent tiers, should not occupy the same niche.

besides all this, the unit will have regeneration and will be very strong in itself

purely an attacking unit

How will this dragon differ from the dwarven ones then? It's a one-to-one match.

So, what were the differences compared to the Town of the Elves dragon? - In any case, we have a duplicate – either like the Town of the Elves or like the Dwarves.

You really can't do without flying units, and if a phoenix is going to belong to a faction (not be neutral), it should definitely be a Light Elf unit (even though it's associated with fire rather than earth).
Actually, according to the description of the phoenix (I think it's from Heroes 6), the glow isn't fire at all, but light somehow connected to primordial magic and Asche – I don't remember the exact description, sorry:D

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It's impossible to have no flying units at all, and if a phoenix is going to belong to a faction (not be neutral), it should definitely be a Light Elf unit (even though it's associated with fire rather than earth).

In Heroes 6, after defeating the Thunderbird, it lost some of its power and became smaller. A phoenix is a similar creature and can be of any strength and size.

Why not? It's perfectly possible, especially since there are fairies and races with a single flying unit – it's not something new (dwarves, demons, dark elves, orcs).

Using the same logic, you could put an Archangel on level 1 or 2. After all, in Disciples 2, a unit-healer (or rather, a hero) of roughly the same strength was called that. The game is just as "similar" as a Roc is to a Phoenix.

P.S. I'm still reading this thread and I don't quite understand why it was necessary to transfer almost all the units from Heroes 7 here. Wouldn't it be easier to just play Heroes 7 if you're more interested in the canonical storyline than gameplay issues?

It's time to think about implementing the process of extracting a model from G7.
Wizard Necromancer, have you contributed to this yet?

No, not yet. First, I need to figure out which skeleton we'll use.