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Posts from The 3rd stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Tournament (2007). Auto-translated

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Could you please publish the preliminary results sooner so we can decide whether to start working on a walkthrough or not.
I agree with vbn. We need to announce the preliminary results and only THEN start checking and discussing them on the forum!
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Everything is correct. The main thing is that the walkthrough is completed by the person themselves and that it is not a clone (copy) of someone else's save. Your sister simply said that she sent the save FOR you, which was unnecessary. She just needed to send your save from YOUR name, and that would be it. Otherwise, it turns out that whoever is the most honest might be penalized.

No offense, IronAxe, but if it weren't for your post, no one would have paid attention to her words... And now, there's a lot of arguing and demagoguery... Besides, these saves were sent to the VDV organizer separately; two were sent to me for safekeeping because the Reaper's nickname didn't appear in bold in the table. You can now start discussing that sending saves to someone other than the official organizer is also a serious violation of the rules...

Regarding point 12 of the rules... Where did you find that it prohibits ANY discussion? It is quite logical, and the fact that this is only coming up now suggests that it prohibits online discussion on the forum, which may become available to the public.
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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No offense to you, IronAxe, but if it weren't for your post, no one would have paid attention to her words... And now, there's all this arguing and demagoguery... Besides, these saves were sent to the VDV organizer separately; two were sent to me for safekeeping, since Reaper's nickname didn't appear in bold in the table.
I noticed not only her post. Here's what Alexander G.K. wrote:
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HELLO! I'm having problems with "email" again: I can't send files! Can someone send my save to VDV and Alan!
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Message from vbn
Try archiving the save.
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Okay, I'll try... And then, can I upload it here, to the topic?!
It seems to have worked...
P.S.: It didn't work.... DAMN!
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How would you interpret this? It includes a request to send the save to the players and even an attempt to upload it to the forum :)
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You can start discussing that sending saves to someone other than the official organizer is also a serious violation of the rules...
But that's unnecessary – as far as I understand, the organizers can substitute for each other if one is unavailable. And VDV almost always indicates who to contact in his absence.
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Regarding point 12 of the rules... Where did you find that it prohibits ANY discussion?? It's quite logical, and the fact that this is only coming up now suggests that it prohibits online discussion on the forum, which could become public.
Here's an example of how people misinterpret poorly worded rules – Ataman writes:
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Point 12 of the rules:
Discussion of the tournament during its conduct is PROHIBITED!!!
That is, on the forum, in private messages, and anywhere else. It's impossible to track this, but when they say they discussed the Walkthrough... (they should have kept quiet).
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Regarding point 12 of the rules... Where did you find that it prohibits ANY discussion??
Point 12 of the rules:
Discussing the tournament during its course is PROHIBITED!!!

Discussing the tournament in a private message is also a discussion of the tournament. And discussing the tournament is prohibited. Therefore, discussing the tournament in a private message is prohibited.
The same logic can be applied to ANY other discussion.
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Let's have a preliminary ranking – even if it's just for a little while in the top ten!
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How would you interpret this? It includes a request for players to send their save files and even an attempt to upload them to the forum.

The person is having trouble sending the file via email... This happens sometimes (for example, one of the participants had to send me the save file via ICQ at one time)... and as one of the options, he wanted to upload it to the forum.
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Point 12 of the rules:
Discussing the tournament during its course is PROHIBITED!!!

Discussing the tournament in a private message is also discussing the tournament. And discussing the tournament is prohibited. Therefore, discussing the tournament in a private message is prohibited.
The same logic can be applied to ANY other discussion.

Okay, if that's how you understood it... then to avoid misunderstandings, in the future, it will be written as "Discussing the tournament on the forum during its course is PROHIBITED!!!"
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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Romanuel;86322
give us a preview—let us be in the top ten even for a little bit!!!
And then where to :)

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The person is having trouble sending the file via email.. It happens (for example, one of the participants had to send me the save via ICQ back in the day)... and as one option, he wanted to post it on the forum...
Zingel solved this problem well—in such cases, he would send the organizer or intermediary his result in writing as days and a description of the last move, I think, or battle? Why is that bad? Why post a save on the forum if the tournament isn't over yet and preliminary results haven't been announced?
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Let's see the preliminary results! I already know that my result is terrible, but I'll be happy for others. Hehe!
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I certainly wouldn't want to rush the esteemed VDV, especially since he probably has a lot on his plate... But I also want to see the results soon :o And even though my post won't change anything... I still have to say it! ;)
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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Well... I replayed it about 12 times over 3 days – the blue one stubbornly hid in the Sanctuary. I only managed to get him to walk past once. But someone who knew could have easily dealt with it – it's a serious bug!
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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I've played through the map completely three times. And I can say this: at least during the first week of gameplay, the computer always makes the same moves (well, if not exactly the same, then one of two possible options). I've even memorized how the computer plays. It always makes the same moves – I'm sure it's the same for others. And only when you get very close to the computer, it might suddenly rush off in some unknown direction. And so, at least during the first week of gameplay, I could determine how the computer played – whether it was playing on its own or with assistance. Therefore, I think that if such a need arises, VDV will be able to determine who played how. P.S. Although,
Клан Homo homini

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. Charity never faileth...
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A huge THANK YOU to VDV!!!!
This tournament has shown, although the results haven't been announced yet, how far my gameplay is from being perfect, not just ideal, but even average!!!!!
Even after my first tournament, "Skeletons 2," my arrogant attitude towards all Heroes players wasn't completely gone. I thought, in my naivety, that I was just unlucky, didn't have enough time, etc. Now I understand that I'm the first student in the "school of mastery." Thank you for putting people like me in their place! Thank you for the experience and everything else. Now I know that I've found the RIGHT forum.
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Ta Kotoraya...;86339
Yeah... and I replayed it about 12 times over 3 game days - my blue unit stubbornly hid in the Sanctuary :( I only managed to get him to move past once. But someone who knew could easily handle it - a serious bug!
It's best not to approach too closely with a large army, then he goes to the clearing with the buffing structures - what? Are we starting to discuss the tournament? Let them release the preliminary schedule sooner :)
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IronAxe;86343
Don't get too close with a large army, then he goes to the clearing where the buff creatures are - what? Are we starting to discuss the tournament? Let them release the preliminary results soon.
Yeah... exactly =) Do you have the same issue? By the way, let's start, since the saves have been sent.... =) I just think that I showed a pretty good result FOR MYSELF... and I'm ready to discuss it ;)
Если тебе не везёт в жизни, - играй в какую-нибудь другую игру:rolleyes:
Лидер клана "Из многих единое"

Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
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and then a little lower, until the monster results are calculated.

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although this time I tried hard, and only if I missed something cleverly hidden, like an easy starting advantage.