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Has it really been ten days, and there’s still no progress?
Только в тишине ответит вселенная, только в наших сердцах мы обретем смелость следовать её зову. ;)
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As far as I remember, desynchronizations often occurred due to negative morale. Could that be the reason?
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As far as I remember, desynchronization often occurred due to negative morale. Could that be the reason?
It can also be due to positive morale.


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Has it really been ten days, and there's still no progress?
The opponent has disappeared from the forum and is not responding. Without his password, I cannot view the save file.
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I request that the regulations for holding the regular tournament Novice Summer 2015 be reviewed, since RADICAL changes were made to the standard regulations for holding the Novice tournament (on which many Novices have been played, without discussion on the site or voting), up to and including the use of Hota as the sole method for conducting the tournament.

I would like to hear the decision of the Arbitration Committee (AC) regarding the system for making changes to the REGULAR HeroesWorld tournaments. Can a host, without discussion on the site, voting, or the support of the majority of the AC, make changes not to their PERSONAL tournament, but to the regular HeroesWorld tournaments of the site?

Until a decision is made by the AC, suspend the holding of the tournament Novice Summer 2015.
Весна 2013.
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RADICAL changes have been made, up to the point of using HotA as the only version for conducting the tournament.
I couldn't find that, but I found this in the tournament regulations:
1. Game version. The tournament is held on version SOD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + with the mutual consent of the players, HW_rulez (for correct operation, the patch must be installed on both players). With mutual consent, games can be played on version HotA 1.3.8 (according to the vote among the participants).
In my opinion, everything is correct - if there is mutual consent, let them play HotA - we need to help promote HotA.
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Как сделать так, чтобы в подписи картинка рейтинга была кликабельной?
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many Newbies have played on it, without any discussion on the site, polls
A strange trend has emerged with these polls, regardless of the topic.
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A strange trend has emerged with these polls, whether relevant or not.
It's strange that he didn't resort to copy-pasting. Is he maturing?
Коротко о себе: спесивый сноб
Чуть длиннее: Фонд Дендроидов
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На ощупь пьют эльфийские стрелки!
Нам это идеально подходит (c)
Это вам не шутки - нажрался Дуст в маршрутке! (с)
Пишите на udd@otso.city
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Official statement:
I request that a law be established to stabilize the chaos surrounding mod versions, Hw_rules, etc. Many people, without waiting, update to the latest version, and as a result, with each new player, you have to negotiate and spend a lot of time and nerves to agree on a version. Moreover, mod versions are often incompatible, as are the versions of the rules.
Suggestion:
For each current and future tournament, specify a mandatory mod version and Hw_rules version. Those who rushed should revert to the previous version. The tournament organizer can change the current version with special announcements before the start of a new round.
As for the seasonal tournaments, you decide, I won't participate)))


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I request that the Arbitration Committee (AK) consider the situation that has arisen in the "one against all and all for one" tournament, where Evil Romantic made a unilateral decision to exclude me from the tournament without providing a reason and without any violations on my part (such as withdrawals, etc.) in this tournament or any other tournaments. I request that the AK answer the following questions: 1. Can one organizer, when 2 organizers and 2 judges are involved in organizing the tournament, unilaterally decide to remove a player from the tournament and make other controversial decisions? I will provide evidence that the decision was made unilaterally, as well as other information regarding this incident, below. 2. How many organizers and judges, when 2 organizers and 2 judges are involved in organizing the tournament, must support a decision for it to be considered legitimate? 3. Do the organizers and judges have the right to immediately decide on a ban from the tournament (as an extreme form of punishment) even in the case of a collective decision, instead of issuing a warning to the player, indicating his wrongful actions and requiring him not to repeat them in the future? 4. Should the procedure for banning a player from the tournament be immediately transferred to the AK, with the organizers and judges providing the reasons for such a decision and giving the player the opportunity to respond to the accusations made against him? Even murderers are given the right to speak in their defense. 5. Is it possible for the AK, before making a decision on the dispute, to suspend the decision of the tournament organizers and reinstate the player in the tournament until the AK makes a decision on the merits of the case, since the AK may not be able to make decisions quickly, and the tournament has deadlines? 6. A systematic solution to questions 1-5 could prevent arbitrariness on the part of the judges in the future and may prevent the current attitude of the organizers and judges towards players, based on the principle of "I am the boss, you are an idiot." I am providing a transcript of my conversation with Evil Romantic. Roger Cool (09/27/2015 12:30) 1-HellLight. 2-Palach HP. 3- Javdet. 4- Maretti. 5- Aiwe. 6- Redwhait. 7- twaryna. 8- Wowa. 9- Amster. 10 - Dark. 11 Satir. 12- Aya. 13- Stinger. 14- Bishop. 15- WizarD 576. 16- Amiloo. 17 - The . 18- Nitro. 19 - Lizard. 20 - Sanin. Roman roman (09/27/2015 13:01) ? Did you find yourself on the list of participants? Roger Cool (09/27/2015 13:02) yt gjyzk& Roger Cool (09/27/2015 13:02) I don't understand? Roman roman (09/27/2015 13:02) Open page 1, you are not on the list. Roger Cool (09/27/2015 13:02) How? Roman roman (09/27/2015 13:02) Like this. Roger Cool (09/27/2015 13:03) Were you not allowed to participate? Roman roman (09/27/2015 13:03) Yes. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:03: Cool, why? Roman roman 09/27 at 13:03: This is the decision of the organizers. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:04: And on what basis??? Roman roman 09/27 at 13:05: The organizer has the right to refuse any participant without giving a reason. Good luck in other tournaments. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:06: Besides politics, I don't see any reasons? Roman roman 09/27 at 13:07: I will not explain anything, but politics has nothing to do with it. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:07: Then what is it about? I haven't withdrawn from any tournaments, what have I done? Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:13: Roman, answer me so that I don't ask others? I don't understand. Roman roman 09/27 at 13:14: I have already written everything. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:15: That is, there is no reason, but participation is denied? There are also no violations. Roman roman 09/27 at 13:16: I am not obliged to tell you the reasons that we are guided by. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:17: Roma, just as a human being, so that I don't bother others with the same question? At the very least, it's still not nice! Roman roman 09/27 at 13:18: Everyone has different ideas about what is beautiful. I'm busy now. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:20: Excluding a player without violations and without a reason is, to put it mildly, not nice. Roger Cool 09/27 at 13:42: By the way, I was in the registration, that is, I was removed after the registration? Roger Cool 09/27 at 15:14: Roman, is this your initiative? Because I think (in my opinion, quite objectively) that you and Dirty are a bit anarchistic compared to the thorough and balanced Pete? I am disappointed. You were like brothers to me - chess players! In this heroic community. Do you like flattery more than sincere truth? I AM DISAPPOINTED! Roger Cool 09/28 at 22:42: Hi! Sorry, can you tell me the reason for this attitude towards me? At least as a lesson, so that I know where I am wrong. So that I don't repeat my mistakes. After playing chess with you, I thought all questions were settled, and you were my friend, I always contacted you first with all questions, and now I am confused. Roman roman 09/28 at 22:49: Hi, I don't have time right now - I'm playing FB. Roger Cool 09/28 at 22:50: When you have free time, please write to me. gl I am also providing the opinions of Palach and Dirty on this issue. Graf Lui de Artemis 09/27 at 13:53: I don't understand what's going on, to be honest, and I don't know why. You can find out in a private conversation with him or with Kostya. I have no complaints about you, otherwise I am not aware. Kostyan Petenev 09/27 at 16:57: I will talk to him, I will try to influence him. Roger Cool 09/27 at 16:57: Okay, thanks, I'm confused. Roger Cool 09/28 at 20:14: Hi! Kostya, how are things going? Kostyan Petenev 09/28 at 20:31: Hi. I talked to Roma, he is determined. We didn't talk much, but he said that he had enough of you in OFB. Apparently, something happened between you there. It is especially upsetting that I considered Roman my friend, I always contacted him first with all questions, and it turns out that he was harboring a grudge and it finally burst out. I had no conflicts with Evil Romantic. I was just upset about losing to him in OFB-8, where, having a big advantage in the second week and a level 5 artifact, after killing my hero, he tried to catch up, but lost in FB on turn 146.
Весна 2013.
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I'm not a fan of AK, and I don't particularly like Roger myself, but kicking someone out without explaining the reasons might be within the rules, but it strongly resembles the behavior of the police and the church ("the Lord commands you to shove tomatoes into someone's ass, don't ask, it's beyond comprehension").
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Unsportsmanlike conduct, conflicts with opponents, constant attempts to "teach" judges/organizers "how things should be done," and even that "conspiracy theory" in which you accused me in the OFB – based on this, I decided to protect you from a bad and uncomprehending organizer, and myself from problems related to your participation.
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This is unsportsmanlike behavior.

A specific list of facts about the unsportsmanlike behavior and the warnings received for each individual case, indicating my guilt and the unacceptability of such actions in the future.

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conflicts with opponents,


A specific list of facts with a review of each case on its merits. As well as warnings issued to me by the judges and organizers, and instructions on the unacceptability of continuing such actions in the future, with a warning about possible decisions by the judges and organizers in case of a recurrence of such conflicts.
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constant attempts to "teach" the judges/organizers "how it should be", yes, the same "conspiracy theory", in which you accused me in OFB. Based on this, I decided to protect you from a bad, uncomprehending organizer, and myself from problems related to your participation.

This is probably the ESSENCE of the refusal to allow me to participate in the tournament. That is, my sincere attempts to achieve a more harmonious conduct of tournaments, a systematic approach to making changes to regular tournaments based on discussion and voting (as Pete did) instead of anarchy based solely on the organizers' desire to make radical changes, purely at their own discretion, without discussion or voting.

Yes, I admit my guilt (if this can be called guilt) – I wanted a more harmonious conduct of tournaments and the previous, systematic approach, as under Pete, based on discussion and voting when making changes to the rules of regular tournaments.

But I didn't receive any warnings from the organizers or judges on this issue?! There were no insults or disrespect towards the participants in the discussion about making changes to the tournament rules. Yes, I am an open person and I say what I think, but I don't hold grudges.

So, because of my desire to improve the conduct of tournaments, I am now being denied participation in the tournament?!

I'll say more, most likely this message of mine was the last straw in Zloy Romantik's cup of patience.

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To make it easier to choose captains in the last tournament, after registration was completed, there was a table of all participants with their permanent rating.

This table will also help the captains in compiling their table for selecting team members.

Good developments should not be discarded.

I think the AC can figure out whether this is a correct suggestion or an attempt to somehow belittle the organizers.
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how it should be", yes, the same "conspiracy theory", in which you accused me in OFB. Based on this, I decided to protect you from a bad, uncomprehending organizer, and myself from problems related to your participation.

I can't answer anything here; I don't understand what's being discussed. I'll review my messages in OFB-9; maybe I'll understand what this is about.

I didn't find anything.

I had no idea that I had some kind of conflict with Zloy Romantik until I was removed from the team tournament!

P.S. To be completely fair, I will note that the changes made to the conduct of OFB-9 (the absence of a draft and the choice of any city), although they were made without discussion and voting, I consider interesting. They helped to provide a new look at the game, although they practically excluded such cities as Inferno, Tower, and Citadel from use.
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