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Wow, who showed up. And will chudo_ud0 return to playing Heroes?;)
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Serega
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A few questions.
After registration for this tournament is complete, participants send the organizer a list of Factions they will play with in each round via email.
As I understand it, it looks like this?
Round 1 -- Fortress
Round 2 -- Haven
Round 3 -- ...
Templates are always chosen from the full list of templates, and Factions are chosen from 8 (4 opponent Factions and 4 of your own) in the quarterfinals, from 6 (3 remaining opponent Factions and 3 remaining of your own) in the semifinals, and finally from 4 (2 remaining opponent Factions and 2 remaining of your own) in the final. Templates or Factions are chosen one at a time from the list of your own and opponent's until only one template or one Faction remains for each player. The player who placed lower in the preliminary stage chooses the templates and Factions first, and also chooses the color.
Explain to a newbie what the "ban" system is all about.
8. Any recruitment of neutral creatures is prohibited; as an exception, recruited creatures can be sacrificed into the abyss or sold on the market.
And do the remaining Goblin Scouts count?
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Alexeagle
Any recruitment of neutral creatures is prohibited; as an exception, recruited creatures can be sacrificed into a pit or sold at the market.
Do the remaining goblin traitors count?
Those don't count; you can do whatever you want with them. They're free units, after all :)
I'm talking about monsters that spawn on the map due to weekly growth (like a week for archers, dragons...). Sometimes they're scared of a large army and want to join.
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Alexeagle
A few questions.

I understand it will look like this?
Round 1 -- Fortress
Round 2 -- Haven
Round 3 -- ...
I haven't decided yet, but most likely we'll do the draft right before the game, but with the condition that there will be no repetition of factions that have already been played.
Alexeagle
Explain to a newbie what the draft system is.
With the preliminary list for the upcoming games, it looks a lot like random selection. Therefore, we will probably do it this way in this tournament: we draft in turn until there is only 1 faction left (there are 4 for each player). We draft templates in turn until there is 1 left in the list. We draft each time from the full list.
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And do the remaining goblin-traitors count?
This applies to all joined units, with the exception of those recruited in dwellings or refugee camps...
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It's time to decide on the tournament format.
alex_nv has suggested using a Swiss-system tournament with N rounds.
Of course, I would prefer to keep the format as it was in the original tournament:
"Pairs in the tournament are formed by drawing lots. The draw is held for each round. In the 1st round, pairs are drawn randomly. In the 2nd round and subsequent rounds, the order of drawing players is as follows:
- First, players with the same difference between wins and losses are drawn;
- If an odd number of players with the same difference between wins and losses are drawn, that player is paired with a player with a larger difference between wins and losses (the difference must be at least 1) from the group of players with a larger difference between wins and losses (the difference must be at least 1). This condition applies in similar circumstances (an odd number of players in each group of players with the same difference between wins and losses);
- A mandatory condition for the draw in each round: each player must play against each participant no more than once (this is still under discussion).
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But since there are few players, it's possible to have players repeat in pairs...
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KillAndAction
It's time to decide on the tournament format.
alex_nv suggested playing a Swiss-system tournament with N rounds.
Of course, I would prefer to keep the format as it was in the original tournament:
"Pairs in the tournament are formed by drawing lots. The draw is held for each round. In the 1st round, pairs are drawn randomly. In the 2nd round and subsequent rounds, the order of drawing players is as follows:
- First, players with the same difference between wins and losses are drawn;
- If an odd number of players with the same difference between wins and losses are drawn, that player is paired with a player with a larger difference between wins and losses (the difference must be at least 1) from the group of players with a larger difference between wins and losses (the difference must be at least 1). This condition applies in similar circumstances (an odd number of players in each group of players with the same difference between wins and losses);
- A mandatory condition for the draw in each round: each player must play against each participant no more than once (this is under discussion).
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But since there are few players, we can allow players to be paired repeatedly...
Well, these are the rules for the Swiss system for this tournament :) We'll have N rounds depending on the number of participants (there's a formula; with 9-16 participants, it's 6-7 rounds). And we can play dark against light, dark against dark, or light against light.
KillAndAction
With a preliminary list for the upcoming games, it looks too much like random selection. So, we'll probably do this in this tournament: we'll cross off factions in turn until there's only 1 of each faction left (there are 4 of each). We'll cross off templates in turn until there's only 1 left in the list. We'll cross off each time from the full list.
I disagree! If we cross off from the full list each time, for example, I will always play with Demons and Orcs, but I also want to play with League against Necromancers. The system with a preliminary list for 6-7 rounds is still better, considering that no faction should be repeated more than twice. For example: Humans-Gnomes-Elves-Elves-Mages-Mages-Humans or Necromancers-League-Demons-Orcs-Necromancers-League-Orcs!
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Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "


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You can play dark against light, dark against dark, or light against light.
But how do you then maintain the idea of the tournament: light against dark?
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Basically, this is how I envision this tournament:
1st stage - group stage - every "good" player plays against every "evil" player. Choose from the full list, but no more than 2 repeats. (with 8 games, 2 games per race + also, if there are no more elves left, for example, then you'll have to choose them).

playoffs - it's clear. The top players among the "evil" ones face the last ones from the "good" ones, and vice versa. Races are chosen from the full list - if you advance, you can't play as that race anymore.
semi-final/final - it doesn't matter anymore.

templates are always chosen from the full list.
plus, you don't have to wait for the next draw; you play when you have the opportunity. The idea of the tournament - good versus evil - is not violated.
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he was the first, as far as I remember.
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Good suggestion, Jonny. I agree with this format.
" Дурак учится на своих ошибках, умный - на чужих, а мудрый старается их не совершать!
Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "


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