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I offer my life in exchange for the execution of a specific person, demonstrating that I am 100% certain that they are Mafia. In doing so, I reveal information about my role.

If Kosha were a normal player, she would have found other ways to discredit Tenshi. Instead, she says, "I am SO SURE she is Mafia that I will leave the game if I am wrong." If this isn't a hint about her role, then what is it?

So, let's not play games; this is all a matter of interpretation. I see a hint here and a violation of the rules.

This is an incredibly strong conviction that someone is Mafia. I wrote the exact same thing to her earlier. Does that make me a Seer according to your logic?

This is not a bluff. Anyone can write something like that, and whether or not to believe them is up to each individual. I repeat, THIS IS THE MAFIA'S PROBLEM that they didn't use this trick and didn't stop it from happening. No one prevented them. There's no point in complaining now.

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and there's no point in banning it now either. When I outlined all the possible ways to use this trick, it ceased to be relevant.
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Yes, they banned me already, that’s it. I got a little carried away back then, and I shouldn’t have accepted those conditions; I really wanted to convince them. If I had known that this was such a serious tactic, I would have just walked away immediately. I really am a terrible player, and you’ve all seen it again. I apologize for ruining the game for everyone, except Tox, and I’m leaving.
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This is not a bet.
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A bet (French: pari) is a dispute; a condition concluded between two disputants, according to which the loser must fulfill some obligation.
If I believe you and vote for her, will you agree to modkill yourself if she turns out to be a bad leader?

Yeah, no bet.

You didn't develop your idea and didn't say anything specific, and Kosha kept getting exposed.

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I suggest we all get a modkill and finish the game without arguments and cheating.
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Yeah, no worries.

You didn't follow through with your idea and didn't say anything specific, while Kosha kept getting exposed.

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I suggest we all get a modkill and finish the game without arguments and cheating.

What stopped YOU from catching me in the act? Nothing. Now it's just hurt feelings.
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This trick initially didn't make any sense because it's not usable for the mafia; it automatically turns into a way for the town to clear itself.

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What stopped YOU from catching me in a lie? Nothing.
Well, I'm not a cheater and I don't break the traditional unwritten rules =))).
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This trick initially had no purpose because it's not useful for the mafia; it automatically turns into a way for the town to clear their name.

This is a subjective opinion that has nothing to do with reality.
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this is a subjective opinion that has nothing to do with reality
I've played enough games here to know the realities of Hv.

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And considering how many of them I was a Mafia member... Believe me, I know better how to play Mafia and how not to play Mafia on this particular forum.
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I've played enough games here to know the realities of Hv.

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And considering how many of them I was a Mafia member... believe me, I know better how to play Mafia and how not to play Mafia on this particular forum.

The realities of Hv are not a taboo that must be strictly adhered to. There is a clear list of game rules, and everything else is up to the players.
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Even according to the rules outlined in this game, I still maintain that there was an implication.
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Even according to the rules stated in this forum, I still maintain that there was an implication.

There was an implication in what I said, but it wasn't there. Contradiction. Topic closed.
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Why wasn't there? =))) I know who you are, and your role definitely implies the possibility of making a bet.
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Why wasn't there? =))) I know who you are, and your role implies the possibility of making a bet.

It doesn't imply that I have any specific information about whether another player is Mafia or not, compared to, say, an Investigator. Stop trying to find fault with something; everything is fair here.
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The fact that you weren't acting as Mafia when you suggested this doesn't change anything. You revealed yourself to the town, good job.

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You're just the main character, and your buddy is the Game Master, so of course, he'll deny banning you until the very end. Very objective.
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The fact that you weren't Mafia when you suggested this doesn't change. You revealed yourself to the town, good job.

This is a subjective opinion. The realities of HvB or whatever don't contradict the fact that, if I were Mafia, I wouldn't use this tactic.
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The realities of Hv or something else don't contradict the fact that, even if I were a member of the Mafia, I wouldn't use this tactic.
But you didn't use it when you were a member of the Mafia. And your words are just words.

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If you had pulled something like this here on Hv before, while being a member of the Mafia, then there would be no question, but now it's just excuses. I'm 100% sure that you wouldn't do that if you were a member of the Mafia.