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#1421
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Nephela
I'm afraid to imagine how GMs come up with these hints. Do they just pick any word they like and start guessing?
In reality, the hints vary in difficulty. For example, GK gave a hint in his game, and it was a hint for all the hints!
We have hints related to quests; in GK's game, there were musical instruments, and the player Leizket had a violin. GK gave the hint:

And again, a brutal murder. This morning, in one of the office premises in the city center, the body of
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was found. Despite the horrific condition of the body, it was quickly identified. The murder weapon was also found nearby – an axe from the Magic company with the inventory code MHNCH TUDB NVII TITV TVII MNNI. Forensic experts are currently working on it.
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Ask solved this hint; MHNCH TUDB NVII TITV MNNI are the first letters of the lines from Gumilev's poem "волшебная скрипка" (magical violin)
http://www.gumilev.ru/verses/204/
(an axe from the Magic company)
So, Leiza was immediately convicted. It was an undeniable solution
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#1422
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Interesting, I'm a good Mafia player, I managed to eliminate my entire team.
Okay, I always do that.
Do they just pick any word they like and start guessing?
In my games, I choose a theme that I'll use for all the clues, and then I connect it to the players' profiles.
А, вот почему.

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#1424
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Drakkosha

In my games, I choose a theme on which I will base all the clues, and then I tie it to the players' profiles.
Who can tell me why use the poor profiles, which, by the way, are quite sparse for everyone, and half of them are from Heroes of Might and Magic, when it's easier to create hints based on quests?
For example, musical instruments (a list of them is created, players choose any available from the list, and a hint is created for a specific instrument (there is plenty of information and facts in the wiki, and not only there (an example with the magic violin)).
But even just from the wiki, you can encrypt a lot of things.
And so it can be anything, actors, directors, generals, tarot decks, countries... in general, anything that has information.))

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Drakkosha
Okay, I always do that.

When there is a threat of hanging, so as not to use the gallows, yes, a good character is good, and even a trade is good. But not all three times
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#1425
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Why am I SUDDENLY town? If I were a mafia player, I would have caught a modkill or just given up on the game by the second day.
Because everyone has become so accustomed to this thought that they aren't even considering other candidates
I know that both you and Neyra don't really like playing as mafia.
That's why I'm looking for your town role, or in its absence, Ogonek.

Just out of curiosity, would the Witch and the Apprentice decide to go with a survey to the Witch? But let's assume they did, just to hint to the town
This time she decided to talk to Sezam:
- They say you know many secrets capable of making a person's life better?
- I don't understand what you mean.
- That's not important. I also heard that you have a connection with an otherworldly power?
- Who is spreading these rumors about me!
- Do you know what power destroyed the Volkhv?
- I have no idea.
Is there household magic?
No
Is there a Naviy spirit status? Or is "otherworldly power" referring to astral magic?Although I highly doubt it
I think the answer is negative.
Question regarding being the maniac
Also no.

From this, Sezam is not the maniac, because that would create a paradox. Then she either has the Household magic status or Naviy spirit.
The first status fits Domovoy and Travnitsa. The second — Domovoy and Ogonek.
She cannot be Domovoy due to the paradox. That leaves Travnitsa and Ogonek. According to my table, Sezam cannot be Travnitsa or Domovoy, so only Ogonek remains.
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in a number of esoteric teachings — the astral level of existence; a component of existence related to mood, emotions
If otherworldly power is indeed Astral magic, then
By Household magic she is Domovoy and Travnitsa, and by Astral — Bereginya.
In total, according to the same table, Sezam is Bereginya. But where does she get so much information?
But was there any point for the Witch and Apprentice, who had been asking good questions until then, not to check for mafia status, even by guessing?

If, confirming my theory about filtering exposing questions for the two remaining mafia players, the first question is about the `change` status
Then regarding change, Sezam is Bereginya, Priest, and then the still-living Werewolf.
Regarding Naviy spirit — Domovoy and Ogonek. If by Magic — then Bereginya. But with these questions a paradox occurs for Bereginya, while with the Change-Naviy spirit link there is no paradox regarding the maniac.
In total, if I previously considered Sezam a possible Witch, now she is either Ogonek or Bereginya to me. Kosha also claims these roles
This vote will show which of them is Bereginya.

What does everyone think about the aforementioned drug-induced rambling?
Каждому будет дано по его вере

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#1427
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What does everyone think about the aforementioned obsession?
Excellent description, I like it.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#1428
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mika
(let's say one checker checks one, a blocker blocks another, and we target a third)
This simply eliminates the unnecessary ones.
Here's the thing... our checker and blocker are combined into two Neutral Domains. So, either we check (but then the Dryad stays at home), or we block and eliminate based on "psychology" during the day.

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Nefela
What does everyone think about the above-mentioned strategy?
I also like it. Too bad my "plus-o-meter" ran out.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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#1429
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Sesame
Here's the thing... our checker and blocker are combined into one Neutral Domain. So, either we check (but then the Guardian stays at home), or we block and eliminate during the day based on "psychology."
I would use the checker in any case. Blocking is good when you know for sure, or strongly suspect, that the person you're blocking is up to no good. Otherwise, they might hide, and the Mafia could be busy with their own schemes, running around with healers. Because either they'll have a lot of evidence against themselves, which increases the chances of it being discovered, or if they're going to blow their cover, they'll do it all at once. The checker will be more useful in any case; the bad guys will simply have nowhere to hide. I would send the checker.
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Yeah, I think that's fine too. But why they'd immediately target me – I don't understand. Maybe I don't want to be targeted.
А, вот почему.

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mika
Can someone tell me why use those poor profiles, which are quite sparse for everyone, and in half of the Heroes of Might and Magic games, when it's easier to create hints based on quests?
For example, musical instruments: a list is created, players choose any available instrument from the list, and a hint is generated specifically for that instrument (there’s plenty of facts and information about them in wikis and not only there – take the magic violin as an example).
But even just using the wiki, you can encrypt a lot of things.
Otherwise, anything could be used: actors, directors, generals, tarot decks, countries... basically anything that has information available.
Exactly! I was thinking the same thing. Could you repeat this in the neighboring thread /topic/6090/? Because not everyone here can write; maybe some of those who no longer play will want to discuss it.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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I appreciate it, of course, but I would like something more constructive... Maybe there are some errors somewhere commas don't count =), maybe someone has their own comments and suggestions. Maybe somewhere the psychology of one of the pair, Kosha/Sesam, gives them away... If we look at it objectively, I wouldn't want to rely on a 50% chance when it comes to Bereginya.
Каждому будет дано по его вере

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#1433
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Drakkoska
Yes, I think it's okay too. But why hang me right away – I don't understand. Maybe I don't want to be hanged.
Sometimes you have to put the public interest above personal interests. I'm sorry, but this is exactly your case.

Nefela, I don't see any mistakes in your reasoning, so there's nothing to add. In my defense, I can say the same thing as in the defense of Miki, Yashur, and Snow. I voted against Heroist, so I'm not Mafia.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Ah, I see what happened. Could you please explain how I could have switched my vote to a Heroist when I saw that you were targeting Nebka? I cast my vote, went for a walk, and then came back, only to find that you had unexpectedly eliminated the Heroist. Was I supposed to ignore everything and constantly monitor the forum, thinking, "Oh, what if they switch votes, and I won't have time to react, and I'll end up being the one eliminated?"
А, вот почему.

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Nephela
I appreciate it, of course, but I would like something more constructive... Maybe there are some mistakes commas don't count =), maybe someone has their own comments and suggestions. Maybe somewhere the psychology of someone from the Kosha/Sezam pair gives them away... If you look at it objectively, I wouldn't want to assign Bereginya with a 50% chance.
I don't think the second question was about a Navian spirit; that doesn't make sense, considering there are some among the mafia, but not with astral magic. So, I think Sezam is Bereginya. Then, according to my list, a priest remains for Drakkosha. And Ment made it clear with his vote that Kosha is not one of them.

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Drakkosha
Ah, so that's what it is. Well, please explain how I could have switched my vote to Heroist when I saw you were voting for Nebka, I cast my vote, went for a walk, and then came back, and you SUDDENLY voted for Heroist? Was I supposed to ignore everything and monitor the forum, "oh, what if they switch votes, and I won't have time, and I'll end up being mafia"?
Why I suspect you - see above, Heroist is not involved