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Yashchur and Sesam, what are you trying to say? That a failed block equals a successful block? What is an unsuccessful block? Is it when the blocker dies on the way? Probably from laughing! Read carefully!!!
We know that the Bard successfully performed his action – he prevented the witch's apprentice, who was given a speed boost with tea, from conducting two investigations... We know that the Fire Elemental successfully performed his action against Kosha – he lured her to the swamp and kept her there. We know that the Werewolf performed his action, and only the Knight's defense stopped him, not a block. All three mafia members made their moves, and no one stopped them, and you continue to insist that Kosha was blocked by the Fire Elemental? Read the newspaper again. The Bard performed his action, the Werewolf performed his action, the Fire Elemental performed his action, and the Fire Elemental's action is only reflected in the newspaper if it was successful!!! If he successfully blocked Kosha, and the Bard blocked Alex, how can the Bard be Kosha? Explain? If you believe that the entries in the newspaper should be interpreted contrary to logic, like this: "If a blocker comes to block a blocker who has already performed his block earlier that night, the second blocker's block should be considered successful (despite its meaninglessness)," then we can develop this thought: if a killer comes to kill a person who was killed earlier that night by another killer, then this killing (of a corpse) should also be considered successful (and leave clues!) :smile09: In short, if I used to think that the Heroist (based on the first investigation, 1/3) and the Snowman (based on behavior) were mafia, now I am increasingly convinced of the Heroist's innocence and the guilt of the Mentalist (who some are so actively defending) and one of you:smile48: I just don't understand yet who of you is mafia and who is just a little bit clueless.

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Plus, regarding the question.

I've already written all of this.

Also, I suggest not executing anyone today, because our advantage is illusory (we don't know how many players are infected and what their roles are), and it's not worth wasting votes just for information. And if we do execute, we should only gather the number of votes that is necessary for the execution (because there is a chance of executing the Scribe). The City Guard must redirect the Werewolf tonight.

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Shaman, maybe this question has already been asked, but what principle is used to give clues during the Night Phase? 1 clue per killed player, or 1 clue per mass killing?

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Yes, and leave the Heroist alone for now. If he were mafia, he would have been attacking everyone about playing mind games and so on a long time ago.
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If the Stronghold hero killed more than 2 units at once, two clues are revealed.
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Shaman, maybe this question has already been asked, but what is the principle behind awarding clues in the Schism map? Is it 1 clue for each enemy killed, or 1 clue for each mass killing?
This is explained in the set description (I think it's in the Schism description) - one clue is awarded for every 2 enemies killed.
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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If he kills them one by one, based on evidence for each murder.
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If he were a Mafia member, he would have been attacking everyone here about playing psychological games and so on.
You're hurting my feelings, Master. I can play as Mafia in completely different ways, so don't try to excuse me here.
You can execute me if you want; I don't mind.

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But why wouldn't a peaceful Ment-Priest (Warlord) answer yes-yes-no? With such answers, he wouldn't have any mafia roles as potential candidates. It's all very strange...
This is how the Fire Imp and Bard could have answered.
1. Are you mafia? No
2. Are you a peaceful role? Yes
3. Is there a killing Night Action? No
But as it is, everyone is a peaceful role that can't kill, which is even more suspicious.
Still, the chance that the Ment is mafia is increasing; I was wrong.
But we need to imagine how things unfolded on the second night:
The Knight helped the Shaman control the rampant evil forces and completely forgot that he was going to protect someone.
1. The Shaman tried to heal and was blocked.
The Ment acted somewhat unusually. He walked around the town, singing ditties, and also gave expensive gifts to everyone. Many thought he was a little out of his mind, but no one dared to tell him.
2. What else could this be, other than sowing discord? I can't think of anything.
3. But there's an even more far-fetched option. Perhaps it wasn't the Ment who was robbed, but the Nymph. But then it's completely unclear what the Witch and Dryad were doing and why they ignored Alexigla.
4. We can attribute the inconsistent answers to the carelessness of the person answering. If it were someone new to the mafia game, I would have decided that, but the Ment is experienced.
There's another possibility: tomorrow will be an even-numbered night, and the werewolf will get a faceless kill. The mafia will, of course, prefer to kill the Fire Imp or Bard instead. So, we can block the Ment again. If the mafia intentionally goes after the Bard to frame the Ment, that will be even better for us; it will be evidence.

Regarding the "sheep" comment. I don't even know how to respond to this accusatory speech. If identifying the mafia and defending my opinion is a sign of being a bad player, you can go ahead and eliminate me; it will be your loss. My teammates will avenge me
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Why are you all picking on me? You're all mafia players yourselves! And perverts! While I'm just sitting here, not bothering anyone, fixing my primus...
If we're staying on topic, ПАЛЕЗНЫЙ is cause for concern; in the worst-case scenario, he already has three targets and we should expect three corpses, which could heavily skew the balance one way or another. But NNV is not the answer. We could try to find ПАЛЕЗНЫЙ through execution, just in case.
А, вот почему.

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Can you translate the "Wizard" into an anti-Sylvan faction mod and give him tea to enhance his intuition?
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You can execute me if you want, I don't mind.
So, shall we hang Heroist then?
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Yes, I was wrong about the Bard's ultimate ability. So, the Investigator turns out to be either a Priest or a Werewolf? But didn't we agree that he was confused by the Sorceress on the second night, and that the Werewolf was killing on that same night? If so, it means he's not a Werewolf.
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So, the guard turns out to be either a priest or a werewolf?
Or a warlord.
But didn't we agree that on the second night, he was confused by the witch?
As I said, there's a far-fetched scenario where he steals Neira and swaps places with the guard. But the chance is very small, incredibly small.
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regardless of whether the block was successful or not, it is considered successful if it was applied to a player who used their Night Action that night.
WHAT THE @@@@@@@&&&&&&&!!!!!??? Maybe we should call a "successful" heal when the doctor arrives before the killer, checks the pulse, gives a potion, and writes in the report: "healthy!" After that, the killer arrives and kills the healed player. The block would only be "unsuccessful" if it was unnecessary (the goal of the off-role)? In fact, normal people call not the fact of the attempt itself a success, but the result: if the target of the Night Action did not complete it due to the block, then it was successful; if it was completed (regardless of why – immunity to blocks, acceleration, slowing down the blocker), then it was not! And also, Sesama, I am not "distorting" anything. If Kosha was shown as blocked at the same time as all the actions of the Mafia were shown as successful, then she cannot be a member of the Mafia! If you insist that she can be, then either explain which one (there are only three, and they all completed their actions) or immediately admit that you are a member of the Mafia. Well, there is also a third way: you admit that you were wrong (although people somehow rarely choose it)
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Or a warlord.
Ah, yes, I confused him with a Knight.
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Oven, please watch your language. I don't really like it when people swear, even if it's censored, when I'm around.
And regarding whether it was successful or not, that's not a question for me, but for the GM. And as you said, "all complaints to the GM after the game."
..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.
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Poor GM.
А, вот почему.

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