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Offline ДаУ
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Please, let's not clutter our wonderful social and entertainment section with all sorts of aggressive armchair battles; let the generals hang out in the stands. What do you think you're doing?
Is someone preventing you from going to that topic? Look at you, a "general."
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Ландау лев https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNj_9EQxDoI&t=1174s

Тут делимся книгами /topic/at/1139927/
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To Wicc. I won't argue with the initial premises; my reality isn't a vacuum. However, regarding the conclusion:
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Therefore, the conclusion is that the entire ban is based on the "I WANT!" of an evil romantic and from you. Don't you think that's a bit wrong?
The conclusion is incorrect. The ban is based on "I DON'T WANT." We (moderators and admins) don't want to see respected people insulting each other. We don't want to give you violation points (which is our direct responsibility on the forum). We don't want to ban players whose emotions are running high and whom we can't bring to their senses through personal conversations. We don't want players to refuse to play in tournaments after a conflict here, due to political reasons (this has happened in my tournaments). We don't want there to be a war here.
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Is someone preventing you from staying away from that topic? Look at you, acting like a general.
They are.
We (moderators and admins) don't want to see respected people insulting each other.
We don't want to give you violation points (which is our direct responsibility on the forum).
We don't want to ban players whose emotions are running high and who can't be brought back to reason through personal conversations.
We don't want tournaments to be affected by the arguments here, with players refusing to play for political reasons (this has happened in my tournaments).
We don't want there to be a war here.
And that's why you are now trying to bring the political arguments into our section, so that the arguments and war continue there, and the violations and points are given by our moderators, right?

Whatever
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To Wicc.
I won't argue with the initial premises; my reality isn't a vacuum.

But regarding your conclusion:

The conclusion is incorrect.
The ban is based on "I DON'T WANT TO."
We (moderators and admins) don't want to see people we respect insulting each other.
We don't want to give you penalty points (which is our direct responsibility on the forum).
We don't want to ban players whose emotions are running high and whom we can't bring to their senses through personal conversations.
We don't want players to refuse to participate in tournaments after a heated argument here, due to political reasons (this has happened in my tournaments).
We don't want there to be a war here.
You are overestimating the degree of people's inadequacy. Or you are taking the arguments too personally.

For example, I have been regularly communicating on socionics forums for the last 10 years; there is a major forum-wide argument about once every six months to a year, and several people are constantly throwing insults at each other. But this has never prevented even real-life meetups, let alone forum games (like Mafia).

A similar story is happening with Starcraft players - I have been discussing politics with them for several years now, and personal attacks are a normal part of life, but this has never prevented us from playing Mafia or, even more so, Starcraft.
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Guys, I decided to help you out here.
We're discussing it here: /topic/at/776254/

It won't work. Even though you swear it will)
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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I won't put this kind of stuff in my signature, and it won't help.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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Serious men in frock coats, sitting on leather sofas, are engaged in an intellectual conversation about politics and economics.
— Have you read about the disarmament conference? — one dandy asked another. — Count Bernstorff's speech. — Bernstorff is a genius! — the other dandy replied in a tone as if he had been convinced of this based on a long-standing acquaintance with the count. — And have you read the speech that Snowden gave at a meeting of voters in Birmingham, this stronghold of conservatives? — Well, what can you say… Snowden is a genius! Listen, Valiadis, — he turned to the third old man in a Panama hat. — What do you think about Snowden? — I'll tell you frankly, — the Panama hat replied, — Snowden is a real smart cookie. I personally wouldn't put my finger in his mouth. And, without being embarrassed by the fact that Snowden would never allow Valiadis to put his finger in his mouth, the old man continued: — But whatever you say, I'll tell you frankly — Chamberlain is also a genius. The dandies shrugged their shoulders. They did not deny that Chamberlain was also a genius. But Briand comforted them the most.
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Как сделать так, чтобы в подписи картинка рейтинга была кликабельной?
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Well, the Necropolis stuff is just lying around, so someone who has something to say should help.

Since when is an achievement for the best result in a season considered "junk"? I didn't understand the rest, Klichko went.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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I agree with Pete. Everyone on this site is familiar with the internet, so despite the censorship on other media outlets, they have already found a way to express their opinions.
I was even forced to put one very pleasant person on ignore in ICQ, due to political reasons.
Весна 2013.
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I agree with Pete. Everyone on the site is comfortable with the internet, so despite the censorship on other media outlets, they have found a way to express their truth.
And I was personally forced to put one very pleasant person on ignore in ICQ, due to political reasons.

Forget about ignoring someone, I was removed from VKontakte by at least four people because of Ukraine, and one of them (whom I respect) is quite well-known here.


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Pit for LM

The ban is based on "I DON'T WANT TO."
We (moderators and admins) don't want to see people we respect insulting each other.
We don't want to give you violation points (which is our direct responsibility on the forum).
We don't want to ban players whose emotions are running high, and who cannot be brought to their senses through personal conversations.
We don't want players to refuse to play in tournaments after an argument here, for political reasons (this has happened in my tournaments).
We don't want there to be a war here.

Wow, you really went for it, changing "I don't want to" to "We don't want to." The essence hasn't changed; Vic was talking to you about the legal basis for the ban, which really doesn't exist. And the poll (where is it, by the way, and why was it deleted?) clearly showed that this topic is of interest to the Community, and the Community would like to discuss it, but "we don't want to and we don't care about the Community's opinion."
Well, if someone can't control themselves and then refuses to play for political reasons, then let them solve these problems themselves. Of course, it's easier to ban than to regulate, but easier doesn't mean better.
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I agree with Pete. Everyone on this site is comfortable with the internet, so despite the censorship on other media outlets, they've found a way to express their truth.
And I personally had to block a very pleasant person on ICQ, due to political reasons.
Wow, can you publish the complete list of banned users on ICQ? And I personally don't understand why political motives are more important than personal communication? To be more precise, I don't consider this approach to be objective... The more I read about politics (on any resource, although I try not to read this garbage), the more I come across the beginning of arguments coming from users from Ukraine (just a reminder, I'm from there too)...

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I'll add... My friends, both male and female, from Kyiv, write to me almost every day, gloating about how much the dollar will cost by New Year's. These are people with whom we practically kissed, slept together, and shared all the hardships together (an 8-hour downpour in a tent, pulling a car out of the sand where it got stuck, skydiving, etc.) - real people... I don't know how they've changed so much, but I will never delete them from Skype or ICQ...

Maybe we should look at ourselves first?..
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