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Not a great idea – I think it’s better to play a Swiss-system tournament with 5 rounds. I’m afraid we won’t be able to handle a round-robin format. We could play best-of-3 matches between players – one game with a reduced set of templates, one with a full set (or both games with mutual agreement), and decide the format of the third game by a coin toss.
I’m not against it: it’s a compromise, and the tournament format is not cliché...
We randomly draw up a list, and for the first round, we form pairs: 1-7, 2-8, 3-9, etc. Then, as usual, we create pairs based on the equality of points scored by players in the previous round.
From the 2nd round, we can do it like this:
- 1st option: Swiss system with the Buchholz coefficient,
- 2nd option: full double-elimination system.
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Not a great idea – I think it’s better to play a Swiss tournament with 5 rounds. I’m afraid we won’t be able to handle a round-robin tournament. We could play best of 3 between players – one game with a reduced set of templates, one with a full set (or both games by mutual agreement), and decide the format of the third game by a coin toss.
I’m “FOR” it.
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I’m not against it: a compromise and an unconventional tournament scheme…
We randomly draw up a list, and for the first round, we form pairs 1-7, 2-8, 3-9, etc. Then, as usual, we create pairs based on the equality of points scored by players in the previous round.
From the 2nd round, we can do it like this:
- 1st option: Swiss system with the application of the Buchholz coefficient,
- 2nd option: full double-elimination system.
I’m in favor of the first option.
" Дурак учится на своих ошибках, умный - на чужих, а мудрый старается их не совершать!
Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "


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A double-elimination format can also be used, similar to a Swiss-system tournament, with Buchholz scoring – just increase the number of rounds. A group of three players recently held such a tournament.
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Alex_nv - draw - Vovan112013 летос 236

alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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Oops... I thought a tournament was already in full swing, so I'll have to catch up. )))
As for the voting, I don't care about the format or the templates.
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KillAndAction
I don't mind: a compromise and an original tournament scheme...
We randomly draw up a list, and for the first round, we form pairs 1-7, 2-8, 3-9, and so on. Then, as usual, we create pairs based on the equality of points scored by players in the previous round.
From the 2nd round, we can do it like this:
- 1st option: Swiss system with the Buchholz coefficient,
- 2nd option: full double-elimination system.
Double-elimination and Swiss system, both are good options. If we do it as Num suggests, with an increase in rounds, it's even better - the tournament starts slowly and takes a while to develop, so let there be more games.
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So, what about the font? Maybe we could randomize it by choosing from two font templates, since there's no consensus?
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Okay, I'll take a break until the new year as well. Kirill, please remove me from the list of participants.
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alex_nv wrote: Наконец то нормальная игра с открытием половины карты.
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So, what’s the point of creating a thread about registering for some unclear tournament? And then figuring out how to play it. It’s better to decide how the tournament will be played first, and then invite people to register. I understand Kila; he wanted to do what’s best, but as far as I know, there are as many opinions as there are people, and the community would decide for itself whether it’s worth registering for this tournament or not. That’s my opinion.
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Vip.rus
I will only play if it's a round-robin tournament with a strict adherence to the established format; otherwise, I'm out.
Noom
If that's the case, I'll also take a break until the new year. Kirill, please remove me from the list of participants.
OK.
I will always do it this way: I can't tell you what to do and what not to do.
I try to make everyone comfortable in the tournament, but it turns out that I'm the one to blame for even trying to organize a tournament among people who, as it turns out, don't even want to play...
It's unpleasant. :smile05:
Well, I'm not going to cancel the tournament.
In any case, by the end of the day, the final version of the tournament scheme and rules will be determined.
I ask that all registered participants express their opinion on the proposed tournament schemes within this timeframe:
- 1st option: Swiss system with the application of the Buchholz coefficient,
- 2nd option: full double-elimination system,
- 3rd option: a combination of the first two options.
Also, if necessary, notify the judges of your withdrawal from the tournament. If a registered participant does not declare their withdrawal from the tournament and simultaneously leaves it during the tournament, they will be excluded from the next official HoMM V: Tribes of the East 3.1 tournament (regardless of whether it will be with or without the use of the Tribes of the East expansion)
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KillAndAction
OK.
I can't tell you what to do and what not to do; you should always do it this way.
You try to make everyone comfortable in the tournament, and it turns out that you're the one to blame for even trying to organize a tournament among those who, as it turns out, don't even want to play...
It's unpleasant.:smile05:
I suggest playing according to the rules I proposed. Those who don't accept them have the right to do so. We'll remove them from the list of participants and start the tournament! We'll play a Swiss system if there are more than 9 people, and a round-robin system otherwise. Kirill, please update the rules accordingly, and those who agree to participate should confirm their participation in the registration thread. Those who don't agree should remove their applications from the registration thread!!! We'll wait until 00:00 Moscow time today, October 18, and start!
" Дурак учится на своих ошибках, умный - на чужих, а мудрый старается их не совершать!
Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "


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I am "FOR" this tournament format:

a Swiss-system tournament with full double elimination.
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I am "FOR" this tournament format:

Swiss system with full double elimination.

If someone explains what this is, I will be grateful.
" Дурак учится на своих ошибках, умный - на чужих, а мудрый старается их не совершать!
Пусть будет больше мудрецов и жить станет легче!!! "


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Especially for Vip.rus and Noom.
Consider withdrawing from the tournament; stop fooling around. Are you all some kind of newbies?!
Surely your skill level won't allow you to play with any system of map templates, factions, and so on, right?!
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If someone could explain what this is, I would be grateful.
What Noom mentioned: Round 1 is a pure Swiss system, from round 2 it's a Swiss system but with the elimination of the player who lost twice.
In a pure Swiss system, there will be no elimination; we just need to determine the number of rounds.
This option would also work for me...
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