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The_

12 years ago

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"Новичок-2014. Winter"

Greetings to all fans of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and supporters of the traditional "Новичок" tournament. I hope the new season will once again delight us with great games and new discovery players.

This is our traditional, and also anniversary - tenth tournament for Новичок.
We do not have a precise and strict definition of who a "Новичок" is. This tournament is for those
- who only recently realized that you can play the favorite old game Heroes over the internet,
- who only recently found out that they are not the only one who can easily beat computers and that it's not so simple with a real person,
- who recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...

We do not invite fathers and grandfathers, we don't want to see clones, and would a medal obtained in such a dubious way even have value for a strong player?

The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gameplay.

Winners of past tournaments:
"Новичок-2013. Summer" - The_
"Новичок-2013. Winter" - высокий
"Новичок-2012. Summer" - twaryna
"Новичок-2012. Winter" - 7z
"Новичок-2011. Summer" - Sky Pioneer
"Новичок-2011. Winter" - Sevensan
"Новичок-2010. Summer" - тенью бездомной
"Новичок-2010. Winter" - Сатир
"Новичок-2009. Summer" - Erdem

Participant Requirements.

1. A player registered on our forum or another gaming resource for no more than a year is considered a Новичок.
2. Players who have longer playing experience but wish to play in the tournament will be considered on an individual basis.
3. Already sufficiently strong players who have shown good results in any tournament are not allowed to participate.
4. A tournament participant must have at least one game in the seasonal rating according to HeroesWorld rules (you can play after registering). This is necessary to ensure that you are technically able to play online and have an understanding of World's rules. In separate cases, this criterion may be waived (if the player is known on other gaming resources and plays successfully there).
5. Players wishing to participate in the tournament agree to provide any additional information requested by the tournament judges.
6. Organizers reserve the right to refuse registration to anyone if they believe there are valid reasons, without a public explanation of those reasons.

Applications should be left in this thread. In the application, specify:

1. ICQ number for contact;
2. convenient time for playing;
3. when the first online game was played;
4. if the participant came from another gaming resource, they must write where from and their nickname on that resource.

Organizational Issues.

1. Leads - The_ (IСQ 241568808), Lim4 (ICQ 451224720, creating and updating tables, tracking tournament results), Grizvald (ICQ 592025309, compiling the participant list and selecting players for participation in the tournament), Judges - Pit for LM (ICQ 471401475).
2. The tournament is held according to the Rules of organization, conduct and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments.
3. For each game played, participants must provide a detailed report and detailed confirmation in this thread. Only in this case will the game be counted.
4. Technical results are assigned for games not played within the established timeframe.
5. All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. The list of reports will be passed to the Rating lead. Do NOT duplicate reports in the seasonal rating.
All tournament reports must be written using the automatic report writing system.
6. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon first request by the tournament leads, judges, or any member of the AC.
7. Disputable moments, if any arise, should be discussed off-forum. For a resolution, you must contact the tournament lead or judge via ICQ and provide daily saves, ICQ logs, and other necessary information.
The same judicial decision is made primarily based on the tournament rules. If the situation that arose is not regulated by the rules, the judges are guided by basic logic and gaming ethics.
8. Based on the results of the tournament, the winner will be awarded a "Winner of the Новичок Tournament" medal under their avatar

Regulations.

Stage 1. Group Stage.
All games in the group are played on template 2sm4d(3).
Each player in the group plays one game against all others. 1 point is awarded for a win, 0.5 to both for a draw, and 0 for a loss.

One week is given per game. Games can be played in any order.
If a player has not played the required number of games by the end of the current round, they must explain the reasons on the forum or by contacting the tournament leads personally. "Disappeared" participants will be disqualified and replaced by players from the reserve list.

Two players who scored the most points advance from the group to the playoffs. In case of equal points, places are distributed according to additional indicators (in order of priority):
1. Berger Coefficient (calculated only based on results shown in the group).
2. Head-to-head match.
3. Points earned in a game "weigh" more than technical wins.
4. Points earned in a game against the LM team.
5. If it is impossible to determine who advances to the playoffs based on the previous indicators, players will be offered a tie-break game scheme. At this moment, it is impossible to foresee all possible combinations of results. Therefore, the final scheme will be thought out according to the situation that develops in the groups by the end of the stage.
In this case, the seasonal (permanent) rating will play a major role.

Stage 2. Team Tournament "New Players" vs "Legends and Myths". The Новичок team, consisting of players who scored at least 2 points in the group stage, plays against the team of the best HW players.

Stage 3. Playoffs - 16 participants.
Matches are best-of-3 (first to 2 wins). Time limit per round is 2 weeks.
The Grand Final is first to 3 wins, starting with a score of 1-0 in favor of the upper bracket winner; i.e., the upper bracket winner needs to win 2 times, and the lower bracket winner - 3 times.

Dates.

Registration: December 28, 2013 - January 18, 2014.
Approval of participant list: January 18-22, 2014.
Group stage draw and start of the tournament: January 24, 2014.

Rules.

1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version SoD 3.2(4.0) + HD mod + by mutual agreement HW_rulez (For correct operation, the patch must be installed for both players), and by mutual agreement WT.
2. The tournament is conducted according to the rules of online games in Heroes 3.
3. Restarts total 3 days (111+111+111 or 111+112 or 113).
4. In the final part of the tournament, the template is chosen by a draw from a list of 5 templates: 2sm4d3, jebus Cross, Panic, 8mm6a, mini nostalgia.

All players on the tournament participant list must do the following:
1. Check if your ICQ number is entered in your profile; add it there if it is not.
If it is in your profile, a small green daisy - the ICQ symbol - is visible under the avatar. If not, you must follow the algorithm.
2. Leave an application in this thread. To do this, click the Register for tournament button located at the beginning of this thread.
3. To create a report, you will need to click the New report button located at the top of each page of the thread and fill in all necessary fields according to the template. After that, write your detailed comments on the game.
4. To confirm the report, the second player must find the game report, click the Confirm report button, and also write a detailed report.
5. It is considered good tone to thank the opponent for the game.

In reply to Simon5760

Stomper

12 years ago

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Simon5760

What about the possibility that you simply ran in the wrong direction? Just like with any template, and the neighboring treasure is full of goodies?

What about the possibility that you turned around, and the next treasure is worthless, or it's located in a swamp or on sand, and has a strange topology? You'll waste a lot of time.

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Iamsamstan

12 years ago

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Please register me for the tournament; I also want to provide some commentary.

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Cincinnat

12 years ago

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Several generations were restarted; in the end, a good number of elves came from two heroes, with an external dwelling of horses under the castle.
It turned out that I only had two directions, and the respawn was very extensive.
On the first one, I spread out along slow roads, quickly bought 8 heroes, upgraded the elves, and with them broke through quite well, taking the external dwelling of wood.
Another external dwelling of horses was found, but behind a pack of ghost dragons. I cleared it around the third day.
On day 115, I fell into an underground secondary, and nearby the treasure zone guard (a lot of gr. dogs) had generated, which the scout heroes could no longer pass. To get out, I had to hang around with Ivor in the underground for a couple of days, after running for meat in the Inferno secondary.
On day 117, I emerge topside with Ivor; there is a chain for taking the external dwelling of horses. I take it with Enova, who was given Tactics. Then the army goes up to take the Dwarf Cottages for money. With Grands and horses, both level 20s fall easily; on the way back, 100 mummies for the Cloak +2+2 and junk caused some trouble.
Ivor stays at the entrance to the cleared treasure zone and on day 121 hits a box for 70+ gr. dendroids. They are dealt with well; there's all the Air magic there, but I only have Advanced Wisdom :(
Then I start eating through the treasure zone; from what's doable, there's a Dragon Fly Hive and a +4 Shield behind a horde of gr. Wasps, a couple of boxes, a prison. From what's undoable — a box for a lot of horses and a Dragon Fly Hive with a +5 All Sword behind a pack of Titans.
I eat everything I can and return the army to another treasure zone on the grass. It's the home one, and there's an external dwelling of horses there. I eat a couple of boxes for money and experience.
In the third one, I finish off the treasure zone with the +5 All Sword, taking it with the loss of a griffin stack and 2 gr. horses (there were already 20 of them total).
There's nothing else tasty in the treasure zone.
On day 142, I break the ГО (giants without gc and cyclops with gc), with ~50 Grands and 33 gr. horses in the army. I run around the opponent's respawn for a long and tedious time, make a mistake with the direction, and take his home secondary instead of the main.

I pull out the army and run to the third treasure zone in the corner — the path to it goes through my respawn and a small piece of the citadel secondary (from an air scout, no one had been there — and so it was).
There, I find nothing particularly tasty over several days.

On day 215, the opponent surrenders, although the situation is ambiguous (unfortunately, there is no more time to finish the game — I am leaving until 01.03; we had agreed to play a couple of times before that, but it didn't work out).

I have Ivor 16-21-11-13; in terms of army, I have 40 horses, 60 Grands, 16 ducks. For magic, only Expert Water; I have the Cloak of Renunciation (for the final on day 216, it was masterfully left on a scout :( ).
There are 6 Angels, 130 Archers, 14 gr. horses; there is an Imp, Expert Earth.

Thanks for the game, and once again I apologize for the tight schedule — I tried to play as quickly as possible.

Red: sochi2014
Blue: fsdgas

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Cincinnat

Faction Оплот / Rampart

Start Hero Ивор / Ivor

Main Hero Ивор / Ivor

Победа / Def

Redsnow

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Тамика / Tamika

Map Template: 2sm4d(3)
Game Length: 215 days
Game Date: 2/14/2014
Reported: 2/14/2014 6:12 PM

Cincinnat 1599 → 1609 +10 ↑

Redsnow 1475 → 1465 -10 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2014 1:10 AM

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Lth

12 years ago

Congratulations to my opponent playing the map wisely, using time to build power. While I got a good boost in the beginning 1-2 week I didn't use it to my advantage and delayed my advance for a long period (going backward-forward) to collect remaining stuff in hope to find something useful. In the end there was a chance for an utopia and some pandoras close to enemy territory, but opponent was guarding it closely and caught me at the right moment :smile38:
Although I had full army, stats were too low to make a difference - GG

Lth

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Оррин / Orrin

Main Hero Оррин / Orrin

Поражение / Lose

Akella

Faction Крепость / Fortress

Start Hero Тазар / Tazar

Main Hero Тазар / Tazar

Map Template: 2sm4d(3)
Game Length: 211 days
Game Date: 2/14/2014
Reported: 2/14/2014 9:12 PM

Lth 1510 → 1487 -23 ↓

Akella 1287 → 1310 +23 ↑

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/14/2014 9:26 PM

In reply to Lth

Akella

12 years ago

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Lth

Congratulations to my opponent for playing the map wisely and using time to build power. While I got a good boost in the beginning, I didn't use it to my advantage and delayed my advance for a long period (going backward and forward) to collect remaining items, hoping to find something useful. In the end, there was a chance for an utopia and some pandoras close to the enemy territory, but the opponent was guarding it closely and caught me at the right moment :smile38:
Although I had a full army, the stats were too low to make a difference - GG

confirm,
analyzing the map after the game showed that the resources in the respawn points were equal, except for 2 utopias on my respawn point and a scroll of explosion. In the end, this is what decided the outcome of the game. The first explosion helped me escape from the max utopia with acceptable losses. Fortunately, the GM 5 appeared on the same day, and after that, everything went faster and easier.
Thank you for the game.

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Redsnow

12 years ago

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I was once again convinced that I am not good at playing, even with what seems to be the easiest Castle.
Thank you for the game.

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Maretti

12 years ago

Had a very nice map with much gold and 3 wyvern dwells, 2 cons and 2 hives and could take a tope at 122 on the way out and a another one that was full at 123. Had sultans as block but gave no problems after i got a box with 60 lizards and with very good skills on taz. Exits were close and opponent had to go back to his area when he saw me with dbl stats and bigger army and then next turn he decided to give up. Thanks for playing.

Maretti

Faction Крепость / Fortress

Start Hero Тазар / Tazar

Main Hero Тазар / Tazar

Победа / Def

Slayzer

Faction Подземелье / Dungeon

Start Hero Шакти / Shakti

Main Hero Шакти / Shakti

Map Template: Jebus Cross
Game Length: 125 days
Game Date: 2/15/2014
Reported: 2/15/2014 2:12 AM

Maretti 1972 → 1973 +1 ↑

Slayzer 1380 → 1379 -1 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2014 4:32 AM

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Slayzer

12 years ago

Maretti

Had a very nice map with much gold and 3 wyvern dwells, 2 cons and 2 hives and could take a tope at 122 on the way out and a another one that was full at 123. Had sultans as block but gave no problems after i got a box with 60 lizards and with very good skills on taz. Exits were close and opponent had to go back to his area when he saw me with dbl stats and bigger army and then next turn he decided to give up. Thanks for playing.

Confirmed.

After taking first restart due to block was down to 111, got a spawn with 1 manticore dwell and 2 minos dwells(1 of them couldn't take in 1st week) also saw 2 pandoras. Unfortunately 1st conservatory was 50grifs, pandoras were too far and finally Shakti never got earth magic although I had earth book just before breaking guard(angles). In the end I managed to break at 124(perhaps could'ev done it at 123) saw an opponent Tazar had 13-26 or something like that I considered attacking, he had few chaos hydras and several angels, I had 7 angels, some manticores and 1 dragon with expert tactics and speed advantage from cape combined with implosion maybe I could kill his angels and archers and than retreat but I was already at low mana and it was a very risky idea, so I decided to teleport back to main. In the next turn I realized that attacking in previous turn was my only chance so I forfeited.

Thanks for the game.

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Redsnow

12 years ago

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Surprisingly, the first layout worked out right away — I have Valeska with 3 stacks, a spread of 4 heroes, but I don't take a restart because I can see 3 Dragon Fly Hives under the Castle and a stable right at the garrison exit.
On 113 I fight my way to some grassy secondary, turned out to be Conflux, in the "folders" it's Das for now, but Tyraxor is showing in the tavern.
115 I take Conflux, meanwhile Tyraxor has been camping for the second day near a Dwarf Cottage and some chests, because the chains just aren't lining up :D
116-117 all this good stuff gets gathered, plus an artifact for attack +4, and I break through to the underground exit, with monks on the other side — not attacking yet.
Plus, having picked up Earth, Tyraxor becomes the sole commander of the army.
121-124 I gather Dragon Fly Hives, of which there turned out to be 4 for 26 Wyverns. :cool:
125 I take the Inferno secondary and break into the treasure zone.
126 a couple of Pandora's Boxes for experience and +20 Hell Hounds, a Naga artifact, I see a hat +6 to all stats behind 20+ Ghost Dragons
127 I find and gather a couple more Dragon Fly Hives, Wyverns now 38 :smile13:
132 I take that hat, another Pandora for 25 Demons, and decide to go for the opponent
134 I break through a simple ГО of 3 Crystal Dragons and take the opponent's main
135 another Rampart falls under the weight of my army
Meanwhile, the opponent is roaming in the upper treasure zone; after spotting some pegasi, I decide to also escape into the treasure zone.
On 137 news of surrender arrives.
GG WP
Thanks for the game and the time.

Redsnow

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Тираксор / Tyraxor

Победа / Def

Skroder

Faction Оплот / Rampart

Start Hero Ивор / Ivor

Main Hero Ивор / Ivor

Map Template: 2sm4d(3)
Game Length: 137 days
Game Date: 2/15/2014
Reported: 2/15/2014 9:38 AM

Redsnow 1441 → 1455 +14 ↑

Skroder 1414 → 1400 -14 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2014 4:34 PM

In reply to Redsnow

Skroder

12 years ago

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Right at the exit, a block of 60 Hobbites. I initially decided to play because the passage to the secondary town was through 60 upgraded Golems, and the secondary town was my native one. Plus, I saw a Cloak of +2 Speed for 20-49 Gold Golems. However, the native respawn was almost entirely blocked by upgraded Eyes, and on rough terrain too. In short, I decided not to go there and instead went to capture the secondary town. Right behind 5-9 Psychos, there was an external Dragon dwelling. I captured the secondary town, cleared a Crypt, and forgetting to position and top up my units, I attacked the Psychos. There were around 30-40 Horses and about 6 Elves there, and my army fell. This severely slowed my tempo. Then I took the Griffin Conservatory; unfortunately, it was a low-level one, and I was hoping for 2-3. Ivor, by the way, never caught Air or Earth magic, only Water. I fled to the treasure zone. In the very first battle with upgraded Bulls, a single attack left the Bull with 5 HP, and its Death Gaze triggered, resulting in the loss of a Dragon. Earlier, another Dragon had died against Naga Guards. Three consecutive Morale procs left him no chance. In the treasure zone, there were 2 Dragon Fly Hives guarded by 20-49 Cyclopes. With an army of 18 Pegasi, 26 Grands, an Angel, and other odds and ends, I didn't dare attack them and only got 2 beehives and 1 box for 5k experience; both beehives were minimal. I thought about splitting my army, learning Blessing at home, and trying to do something with it. But then he appeared and made it clear that nothing good awaited me at home. I decided to attack the Cyclopes anyway, lost a Dragon, a couple of Grands, some Pegasi, and a Duck. Behind them was another minimal Dragon Fly Hive. Knowing that Tyraxor outmatched me by about twice the stats and was also clearing something else elsewhere, I figured further resistance was futile.
Thanks for the game.

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identity

12 years ago

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Everything was very bad; the roads turned out to be slow and very long. I only managed to break through to the secondary on turn 117, and there I immediately found a Griffin Conservatory (a single one). I had no money at all — even with a full exchange on the outer market, I was 25 gold short for building the birds. On turn 122, I take the Necropolis castle and transfer the troops to capture the Conservatory. Things are gradually improving, but then news arrives from the opponent about a forfeit.
Thanks for the game!

identity

Faction Сопряжение / Conflux

Start Hero Random

Main Hero Арлак / Arlach

Победа / Def

Memphis

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Кайри / Kyrre

Map Template: 2sm4d(3)
Game Length: 122 days
Game Date: 2/15/2014
Reported: 2/15/2014 9:02 PM

identity 1602 → 1608 +6 ↑

Memphis 1353 → 1347 -6 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/15/2014 9:24 PM

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Memphis

12 years ago

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identity

Everything was very bad, the roads turned out to be slow and very long. I only broke into the secondary by 117, where I immediately found a Griffin Conservatory (a tier-1 one). I had no money at all, even with a full exchange on the external market, I was short 25 coins to rebuild the birds. On 122, I capture the necropolis castle and transfer troops to capture the Griffin Conservatory. Things are slowly improving, but then news of a throw comes from the opponent.
Thanks for the game!

I attacked the Dragon Fly Hive guard on 122, 99 air elementals, and threw the game. I had (5 champions and 30 archers plus a few pikemen).
Thanks for the game.

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Beevil

12 years ago

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Simon5760

Luna started with a +2 hat, Kirya was found in the tavern, and the stable was nearby. Luna defeated the enemy with 90+ Goblins and got boots. Kirya, with 111 speed, had incredible movement speed. The game started with 4 heroes. On the first week, I went to the secondary resource, looking for money for birds. Eventually, I managed to get it. I hired Goshan in the tavern. I considered rushing, but Luna was leveling up. On level 123, I got a scouting spell and attacked the opponent's secondary resource. On level 124, Kirya, with birds, could reach everything. All heroes were leveling up. I killed the treasure in the Castle, drove out Pirya, and put Kirya in the Castle with the entire treasure. The birds were assigned to a weak hero from the tavern who was driving out Goshan (he turned out to be not very strong, although I was afraid of him because in the previous game, I saw the opponent starting to not hire creatures from level 111). On the opponent's turn, Pirya came out of the portal and couldn't reach Kirya without birds, missing by one movement point, and typed GG.

Thank you for the game!

The beginning was uncertain. I had enough money at first, but soon, by the middle of the week, there was very little left, so I decided to get to the secondary resources as quickly as possible. There was a hidden lair of Ifrits near the Castle, which I took on level 117 with Pirya. The ballista shot well with offense and experience from artillery, and there were also a lot of attacks. On level 121, I went to another secondary resource. After wandering there for a couple of days, I turned around, put the army in the Castle, and decided to level up Malekith, because his bolts were already dealing 142 damage. But as soon as things started to improve, the opponent typed nwcnebuchadnezzar and defeated my creatures in the Castle, and also stole the Ifrits, but separated the birds from Kirya. As a result, thinking that he would hardly build a Citadel in the secondary resource, I decided to gather the remaining creatures and attack Kirya, because there were still 3 Ifrits and a very good ballista + some creatures, and I would kill the birds with Malekith's bolts, but I didn't have enough movement points to reach him, and I wouldn't be able to defeat Kirya with the birds in any case. GG WP. Thank you for the game

In reply to The_

Dark30

12 years ago

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We started playing 2 weeks ago, but didn't have time to finish the game right away. Anyway, we managed to load the save file, I spent a long time remembering the password, and played from a different computer, so there were no saves from the first day. After loading, MrP1nchy honestly admitted that he didn't notice the guard on the second day and ran past it, and acknowledged the technical loss himself. Special thanks to him for his honesty, because I probably wouldn't have checked the saves anyway, as I simply didn't have them. As for the game, the generator gave us a "not very good" starting position. The moon appeared, but he managed to lose it in the dungeon (against the vampires), and in the citadel (123456), he was waiting for a new hero and an increase in resources.

Dark30

Faction Сопряжение / Conflux

Start Hero Пасис / Pasis

Main Hero Пасис / Pasis

Победа / Def

MrP1nchy

Faction Замок / Castle

Start Hero Валеска / Valeska

Main Hero Валеска / Valeska

Map Template: 2sm4d(3)
Game Length: 117 days
Game Date: 2/16/2014
Reported: 2/16/2014 1:06 PM

Dark30 1348 → 1374 +26 ↑

MrP1nchy 1643 → 1617 -26 ↓

Rated Sep 28, 2022

Accepted by opponent on 2/16/2014 1:32 PM

In reply to Dark30

MrP1nchy

12 years ago

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My bad. The loot was good, but I didn't notice the guard for the second town was moved into the mountains. Or maybe I didn't want to notice :smile52:. Besides, Dark said he had 5 paths and suggested restarting (apparently, that's why I decided it was a generation bug and there was simply no guard). It turns out I passed that guard on the first day...