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12 years ago
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Ihtiandr
Javdet, Watch the interview again carefully, and don't just listen with half an ear. There's not only the terrible word "weapons," but also detailed arguments and clarifications.
I'm saying, he expresses himself well. But somehow it seems that things won't go as smoothly as he describes. Some idiot or provocateur will be found who starts shooting at the police, and there's no guarantee that there won't be a response.

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And in general, instead of clicking on the keyboard, come to Kyiv and support your idea)))

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here's another article
http://hvylya.org/analytics/politics/stsenariy-kak-za-dva-mesyatsa-utopit-ukrainu-v-krovi.html
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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Javdet
I'm telling you, he expresses himself beautifully.
He's making valid points. And the fact that he expresses them beautifully is a good thing; it doesn't make his thoughts any worse.
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Some idiot or provocateur will start shooting at the police, and there's no guarantee that a response won't be triggered.
You really need to watch it again. Otherwise, I have to repeat what was said there. The point is that the response has already been triggered. Berkut is already killing people and openly mocking the people. The authorities have declared war on the people. And there is no chance of reaching an agreement with them through negotiations or any peaceful means; this is already obvious. I'm too lazy to go into further details; everything is in the interview.
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And instead of clicking on the keyboard, come to Kyiv.
If I had the opportunity, I would have come a long time ago. Here's a guy from Russia sharing his impressions:

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Ihtiandr
The authorities have declared war on the people.

If the authorities were to actually declare "war" on the people, that war would end in a couple of days: a state of emergency would be declared throughout the country, and regular army troops would be deployed, as the authorities always do when their interests are threatened. The fact that this hasn't happened yet is also a very good question. Maybe they're afraid of American games of democracy?:rolleyes:
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If the authorities were to actually declare war on the people, it would end in a couple of days: a state of emergency would be declared throughout the country, and regular army troops would be deployed, as the authorities always do when something threatens their interests. The fact that this hasn't happened yet is also a very good question. Maybe they're afraid of American games of democracy?:rolleyes:
Of course, that's how it would be if it were the Middle Ages and Ukraine were not a republic but a monarchy (in essence, it is a monarchy). To declare a state of emergency, you need to find 226 votes in parliament. And I'll add that if the UPA fought against the totalitarian USSR until 1960, then a state of emergency won't help to defeat Western Ukraine now, that's a given!
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This was already discussed at the previous gathering.
Really? I didn't hear any calls to create a parliamentary republic at the last gathering.

Then Ikhtiandr: Arestovich is a clown-theorist; he came up with the Ocean system, which is fundamentally unviable, and reality will shatter all his theoretical constructs. I listened to 2 of his interviews, and the only sensible thing I heard was that different regions of Ukraine have different characteristics. But that's something everyone already knows. And everything else in his reasoning is just psychobabble.
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Really? I didn't hear any calls to create a parliamentary republic at the last Maidan.

And Ikhtiandr: Arestovich is a clown-theorist; he came up with the Ocean system, which is fundamentally unviable, and reality will shatter all his theoretical constructs. I listened to 2 of his interviews, and the only sensible thing I heard was that different regions of Ukraine have different characteristics. But that's something everyone already knows. And everything else in his reasoning is just psychobabble.
Let's go finish our 8-game streak instead:rolleyes:
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let's go finish our 8th game:rolleyes:
you should have said that right away :D
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It's clear that defending the fascists of Yanukovich's regime can only be done by either its constituent parts (and there are many of them – all the judges, prosecutors, police, tax officials, customs officers, firefighters, etc., and all their families, as they are participants in the corruption pyramid and each has their own share) and slaves (I wrote about them above). There is also a part that are purely ideological opponents who are against Europe and for Russia (they don't hear or see anything else).

I didn't study history well in school. Tell me, who was Father Gapon? And what is your attitude towards him based on what you have read and heard from others who were not witnesses. Just for variety, here's a question.
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If the authorities were to actually declare war on the people, that war would end in a couple of days: a state of emergency would be declared throughout the country, and regular army troops would be deployed.
There's no point in that – there's information that the troops are already ready to side with the people. Publicly, they have only declared neutrality so far, but I think they are just waiting. Sooner or later, they will stand up for the people, and everything will be resolved in a couple of days, just like during the August Coup. So Yanukovych is now afraid to even think about the troops. The only thing he can hope for is the deployment of troops from Russia. But this option is also doubtful, although possible.
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Since the insults have started, I'm temporarily closing this thread, at least for a couple of days. Everyone has already expressed their opinions, and it's unlikely that anyone will be persuaded otherwise, so let's close it and wait to see who turns out to be right. Let's not forget that we're here to play Heroes, and our communication is supposed to be friendly... probably... So let's not argue; it's not worth it.

P.S.: We will punish any discussion of this topic in other threads or the creation of new threads with bans. Discuss things with each other in private messages.
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The topic is open. If insults start again, we will close it again, and the usernames will be rewarded with a special gift in the form of 50 penalty points.

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12 years ago
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Well, Marretti suggested banning him; I think we can just take away his flowers, and that will be the end of the punishment.
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What is the reason for banning? For trolling?) Well, then, after Егорка

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Maretti went off on a tangent)

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Maybe he interpreted it as not an acknowledgment, but rather an exposure. After all, they are different things).
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That's right, ban them for six months for cheating and ruining everyone's hopes. Leave the flowers.
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