What types of combat do fans of Heroes enjoy? — Competitive

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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In general, having the fastest legs is a very effective weapon:D :D :D

:D

Agilist

19 years ago

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Another very fun and useful activity is jiu-jitsu (there might be spelling errors). I didn't really learn jiu-jitsu properly, but the coach showed some very good grappling techniques. It seems to consist of strikes and grappling, and there's also a very sadistic stance called kibodachi. The legs are bent at a 90-degree angle and spread apart. People with average fitness can stand like that for 2-3 minutes :smile25:

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RedB

19 years ago

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And for some reason, I used to think that karate was the coolest type of martial art... it turns out that's not the case)). Although, again, a person needs to use their head; the question is only about the level of skill.

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R@zer

19 years ago

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Bee, with a Zidane-like head, is also possible.

Agilist

19 years ago

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A karate practitioner has less chance of defeating a judoka of equal strength. After hundreds of thousands of falls during training, a judoka doesn't feel punches very much and can calmly take down an opponent and finish them on the ground (I've tried it myself). In such a case, a karate practitioner might be helped by strikes to various pressure points (e.g., a heel strike to the groin).

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Night

19 years ago

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There's no better karate than having a friend with a TT pistol in his pocket.

Alloya

19 years ago

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voted for karate! because I've been practicing it for 2 years. Kyokushin style (Kyokushinkai, Kio-kushinkai... there are many variations in spelling).

Agilist

A karate practitioner has less chance of defeating (in the sense of winning) a judoka of equal strength.

I don't quite agree with you. It all depends on the karate style. I can say that since Kyokushin is a contact style, all contact styles are also not very receptive to blows. For example, in our training, we have sparring sessions where we only hit each other (within reasonable limits, of course). And then there are sparring matches... so we are generally crazy :smile04: :smile10:

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Agilist

19 years ago

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Alloya;68714

I voted for karate! because I've been practicing it for 2 years. Kyokushin style (Kyokushinkai, Kio-kushinkai... there are many variations in spelling)

I don't quite agree with you. It all depends on the karate style. I can say that since Kyokushin is a contact style, all contact styles are not very receptive to blows. For example, in our training, we have drills where we only hit each other (within reasonable limits, of course). And then there are sparring sessions... so we are generally crazy :smile04: :smile10: :smile26: :D
So, even hand-to-hand combat specialists won't always be able to defeat a karate practitioner.

And in our training, we are thrown onto the tatami many times (it's not that soft), and the only unpadded area is the shins (which hurt quite a bit after sparring with karate practitioners). By the way, padding won't help against a judoka, because a judoka doesn't hit (we are a rather peaceful people), but throws, twists, and chokes. Wouldn't padding help against that?

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Alloya

19 years ago

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I don't know about "breaking" or "choking," but a karate practitioner can withstand several falls. And a karate practitioner won't just stand there; their legs move like a butterfly. If you miss one strike, it becomes quite difficult to recover. And if the strike lands on the head, that's the end of the sparring match. In principle, this is what sets us apart. You are peaceful, while we work in full contact.

Nobody knows who I really am...

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:: Almarein - Город Эльфов ::

I'm just so pretty in my pain...

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OptiMAL

19 years ago

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I completely agree with Agilist, as I myself practice judo. Hard throws (especially the single leg takedown:D) are performed on a hard mat, so you can consider the whole body to be bruised...
A karate practitioner has an advantage – their legs. BUT! in a street fight, there will inevitably be contact sooner or later. It won't be a problem for a wrestler to put the opponent on their back. (Hip throw, back arch, leg sweep – there's a whole range of options:D)

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A judoka has reactions to both hands and legs (this is developed through grappling). So, you can catch a leg or an arm and do something with it:D

:D

Diversant

19 years ago

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I prefer close combat. Both throwing and striking.

РУССКИЙ

Snowball

19 years ago

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To end the fight, you need to close the distance, but a skilled fighter (boxer, karateka, etc.) will try to maintain that distance, and if their technique, speed, and striking power are at a high level (and they have a good head on their shoulders)... one clear hit will do the trick (no matter how many times a day you fall on your butt on the tatami and toughen up). In general, who has a better chance is a debatable question.
The kibodachi stance exists in karate as well (although it's not very useful... it's purely for kata and aesthetics, and for showing off - IMHO, it's only good for getting beaten up...).

Белый и Пушистый! Иногда.....

GvozD

19 years ago

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Let's not talk about boxers. I saw how sambo wrestlers, in one friendly tournament, simply took down one boxer after another, and none of the boxers could do anything except look surprised. We, in turn, kept taking them down until they fell. Boxing is, of course, a tough sport, but not very effective in a fight. It's just too specialized.

Да будет так

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Agilist

19 years ago

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Alloya;68729

I don't know about "breaking" or "suffocating," but a karateka will withstand several falls. Besides, a karateka won't just stand there; their feet "fly" like butterflies... if you miss one strike, it'll be quite difficult to recover. And if the strike was to the head, that's the end of the sparring session.
Basically, that's how we differ. You are peaceful, and we work in full contact

1. A karateka might not withstand a skillful throw, after which you can only breathe slowly, your lungs hurt, and questions arise in your head: "Where? Who am I?"
2. The strike must be specifically to the head (and a clean one) or to the groin. I've checked myself; other strikes (even to the solar plexus) are merely irritating.
3. Agreed, a successful strike to the head can end the fight. Just one question: "What would stop a judoka from simply reaching out and grabbing the head with their arms (assuming they are stupid)"

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Geksorin

19 years ago

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We had two schools in our city: Boxing and Judo...
No matter how many fights and skirmishes there were, Judo always won only a few times...
Boxers were always the first, even when they were outnumbered... as Snowball rightly said - it's all about distance, and I completely agree with him. In general, Judo is a sport... and Boxing is a fight...

Герой в каждом из нас...:rolleyes:

"Истинно могуч тот, кто побеждает самого себя"