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Ment

6/30/2013 2:27 PM UTC

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Regarding the air, if you want to get technical. But the point isn't even about the speed limit; that was just the first thought that came to my mind. The second, as I mentioned, is that trying to accelerate the movement of the canvas won't achieve anything; the wheels will just spin faster. No matter how hard we try, their speeds (the wheels and the canvas) will never be the same because the wheels have a negligible impulse compared to the plane, and the plane accelerates due to the turbines. They will accelerate the plane, and they won't care what happens to the wheels. And the wheels will be forced to spin at the speed dictated by the plane, and if the canvas hinders them, they will simply spin faster.

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RiMpel2

6/30/2013 2:55 PM UTC

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Nope, relative to the ground. Air cannot be taken as a reference frame. Imagine the wind is blowing. Relative to the airflow, the plane is moving, but not relative to the ground. The plane accelerates due to the turbines, but it moves relative to the ground, and its speed increases, so its momentum also increases. But on the runway, the plane's speed will be 0, which means its momentum will also be zero. And in general, your statement, "No matter how hard we try, their speeds (wheels and runway) will never be the same," contradicts the condition. Because we are told that the speeds are equal.

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Тихо ходящий в темноте

6/30/2013 5:52 PM UTC

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Ment

Upload it to the forum; it won't let me upload it this way. It says that your image for the third game has an 18+ rating. I bet there are naked dendroids in it.

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Does it work this way? 18+ is a bit strange for Fastpic.
If it doesn't work, it's probably your provider or viruses, so maybe this will work?

у вашей кровати, пока вы спите

Ment

7/1/2013 11:26 AM UTC

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No, relative to the ground. Air cannot be taken as a reference frame. Imagine the wind is blowing. Relative to the air flow, the plane is moving, but relative to the ground, it is not.

Ho-ho, so what if the flow suddenly becomes so strong that it lifts the plane into the air, then who cares about the surface of the earth? Another thing is that you won't fly that far, but the fact of takeoff remains.

And on the runway, the speed of the plane will be 0, which means the impulse will also be zero.

It won't be, and that's what I'm saying.

And in general, your phrase "No matter how hard we try, their speeds (wheels and runway) will never be the same" contradicts the condition. Because we are told that the speeds are equal.

Yes, the condition is incorrect in this formulation; we cannot fulfill it; we can only try unsuccessfully.

Well, if it doesn't let you, then it's probably the provider or viruses, so maybe that's the case?

Yeah, that's it. Well, you can probably teleport there or use angel wings; that's probably what the map creators had in mind.

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RiMpel2

7/1/2013 2:06 PM UTC

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Ho-ho, so what if the updraft is so strong that it lifts the plane into the air, then who cares about the ground? It's a different matter that you won't fly very far, but the fact remains that it took off.

but there is no such wind

No, and I'm saying that.

relative to the ground

Yes, the condition is incorrect in this formulation; we cannot fulfill it; we can only try unsuccessfully.

so, it won't take off.

Mona

7/2/2013 6:39 AM UTC

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The direction and strength of the wind play an important role.

In the context of an airplane and a canvas?) I think it's not significant.

Все псы попадают в рай

Какие бы законы мы не писали,
нас все равно расстреляют,
если мы проиграем эту войну.

Ment

7/2/2013 10:21 AM UTC

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but there is no such wind

No, so what? This is an extreme case; in another extreme case, with zero wind, you can still observe relative to the air. Obviously, this applies to all intermediate cases as well.

i.e., it won't take off

That is, it will take off, but the wheels will rotate faster than the fabric; we won't meet the condition for equal speeds.

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RiMpel2

7/2/2013 10:25 AM UTC

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Ment, no one is asking you to make the plane fly. You are asked to check if it will fly under the given conditions.

Ment

7/2/2013 10:27 AM UTC

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Under the given conditions, the universe collapses. Well, I guess that means it won't work, and I agree.

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Mona

7/2/2013 5:58 PM UTC

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Yeah, right. It’s a windmill, not a turbine.

Все псы попадают в рай

Какие бы законы мы не писали,
нас все равно расстреляют,
если мы проиграем эту войну.

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Тихо ходящий в темноте

7/3/2013 2:10 AM UTC

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Mona

Regarding the airplane and the canvas?) It's a minor point, I think.

Do you know how a wing works?

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Sesame

7/3/2013 4:33 AM UTC

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Quietly walking in the darkness

Do you know how a wing works?

Hmm... Is that right?

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..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.

Sesame

7/3/2013 4:35 AM UTC

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I have a feeling I'll be searching for that specific episode of "Destroyers of Legends" tonight.

..разым двазым трызым рызым пята лата сигерь мата локом боком крюк за крюк из бульмы бульма урюк..
Знание некоторых закономерностей освобождает от изучения многих фактов.
Мечты сбываются рано или поздно, так или иначе.