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A short film about DNA genealogy.
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An Aryan is not a nation – it is a person striving for perfection, living in accordance with the laws of God.

In general, I am quite cosmopolitan regarding the racial issue. But Aryans, my dear friend, are indeed a race, and an ancient one at that, whose origins are still unclear. What does a person striving for perfection have to do with it? How does faith in God fit in here? Everyone can understand perfection in their own way. For example, it can also be understood as perfection that is completely opposite to what the Bible interprets. Your assumptions, my friend, are just another attempt to fit everything into your personal theories, which are not substantiated in any way, or simply copied from others. Your propaganda of an ideal personality, especially on a forum dedicated to a completely different topic, will not give you anything; you simply look foolish in the eyes of ordinary people.

Good night and pleasant dreams.
Смысла нет, но вы держитесь там. Удачи, здоровья, хорошего настроения!
И пока в кармане пачка милкиуэйев - значит все не так уж плохо на сегодняшний день



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Your propaganda about the ideal personality, especially on a forum dedicated to a completely different topic, will not give you anything; you just look foolish in the eyes of ordinary people.

Wise words. But I disagree with the statement that it "won't give him anything." His main goal is to find ears that he can fill with his ideas, so he can feel like a shepherd among lost sheep.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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ariputra
Alright, it's already 1 AM, time for me to go to sleep. Good night, everyone, and have pleasant dreams :)
Perhaps your gigantic posts, devoid of common sense, can only evoke that.
P.S. If you want people to read you, even between the lines, be brief and concise. Although brevity is the soul of wit, you get the idea :)
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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To Pit for LM:
If you are really interested in whether giants existed in the past, read "The Unknown History of Humanity" - it contains all the answers to all the questions asked here and the contradictions.
There were no giants in the past; there is no real evidence for this, except for Richard Thompson's overactive imagination, who thought he had found what he desperately wanted to find. There is a saying: if you tell a person for a long time that he is a fool, he will eventually start to believe it. Suggestion and self-suggestion are insidious things and often border on schizophrenia, and if all this is multiplied by the brainwashing of some kind of sectarian nonsense, then the situation is really hopeless.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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P. S. Aripoutra, I purposefully put Koloev's surname separately because I knew you wouldn't read it carefully. You have absolutely convinced the audience that Koloev is a scoundrel and a provocateur, incapable of acting other than on the orders of the enemies of the people. But. This is just the author of the EPIGRAPH. And the author of the text is a very respectable man, Stanislav Sviridov, who is, for example, on the VKontakte social network, so go ahead and find ARGUMENTS AGAIN as to why the article is commissioned and paid for. After all, tailoring your arguments to fit the conclusions you want is your fetish).
Oelm, In parts 1 and 2 “you write” a lot about the “Russian Vedas”, about the “Slavic-Aryan Vedas”.
This speaks to your (or the authors you are quoting) complete lack of competence on this matter.

I didn't write anything, as this is your style of copy-pasting other people's thoughts, substituting them for your own. The entire post was taken from a Slavic-pagan portal, the author is the Russian philosopher Stanislav Sviridov, writing about the sect of the Ynglists, to which you apparently need to be assigned, so that you don't babble one thing today and another tomorrow. That's clearer. Secondly, the Slavic-Aryan Vedas, supposedly written in runes, are exactly what you have tried more than once to present as the ultimate truth. The work shows exactly how to understand that this is a fake created by followers of A. Khinevich - pastor Diy.
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It turns out that the Slavs and Hindus could well have had a common ancestor, with that very “basic” haplotype, 16-12-25-11-11-13.

Again, it's clear that you haven't read anything from my link; it states in plain text exactly what you are presenting as a discovery.

The identification of Slavs and Aryans began with the interpretation of the proto-urban complex Arkaim (naturally, in a non-scientific environment), publications by Asov and Belov. I dare to assume that they developed the hypothesis of Demin-Zharnikova-Guseva. The influence of Indian culture on Russian is present, this is evident from the language and the names of some Gods. But the thing is that Ynglism asserts that the Rus influenced the culture of India. Khinevich knew all this when he developed the ideology and created his “Slavic-Aryan Vedas,” which satisfied everyone to the maximum. Partly because, at the beginning of his spiritual path, Khinevich tried to create a religion that unites all known religious teachings. Naturally, there are no archaeological or anthropological data that would allow the identification of these two completely different ethnic groups. One could talk about this issue for a long time, but Khinevich divided the Russians into 4 types. The difference is only in eye color and type of activity, and he introduced his own mythological horror story of enemies, replacing them with the epithet “gray.” All this resembles the eugenics of the 30s of the 20th century, or, if you will, an attempt, colored in eugenic tones, to create a caste society on the model of the Indian one. In the interpretation of the Ynglings, this is nothing but blatant fascism, having nothing to do with Rodnovery! For which, as a result, he received several criminal cases:

To speak about a Slavic-Aryan culture in the full sense of the word is simply unimaginably stupid!(this sounds too categorical) There is a Slavic linguistic community, with specific, related ethnic groups: Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians… The Aryans have never been part of this linguistic community. And indications of the kinship of Sanskrit with the Russian language are not all-encompassing. There are more coincidences of the Proto-Russian language in Baltic linguistic roots… And Demin's study of toponymy and hydronymy only testifies that the migration routes of the pastoralist-farmers – the Aryans – passed through the northern lands of our homeland. Possibly, these tribes also passed through the Ural mountains. To identify ourselves with the Aryans solely because of this is the same as identifying ourselves with the Tatar-Mongols… Although some continuity of cultures could have remained, and it is these points of assimilation that are interesting. Everything else is an erroneous interpretation of facts in favor of the nationalist and chauvinistic ravings of Khinevich. The Sanskritologist Professor Guseva also came to this position when she realized what ground for interpretations she had created (Guseva N. R. Arctic Cradle? // Rodina. – 1997. – No. 8. – pp. 81-83; She. Russians Through the Millennia: Arctic Theory. – M., 1998; She. Arctic Homeland in the Vedas // Who Are They and Where From? The Oldest Connections of Slavs and Aryans / N. R. Guseva (ed.); Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology RAS. – M., 1998.)

Oh, the catechism...
Debunking the "Catechism" is a Sisyphean task, for human wisdom has its limits, while stupidity is limitless. I have a rough draft for an article, raw, just a note on the cuff, but it might "highlight" the article. This is the Judeophobe test:

1. What should a hyper-conscious Ukrainian do when a Moskal (Pole, Magyar, Gypsy, etc.) insults a Ukrainian Jew for speaking Ukrainian: kill the Jew; kill the Moskal; kill himself; first kill the Moskal, then the Jew?
2. Must a hyper-conscious Ukrainian die rather than be treated by a Jewish doctor?
3. Can a hyper-conscious Ukrainian accept internal organs for transplant or blood for transfusion if the donor is a Jew?
4. Must a hyper-conscious Ukrainian bleed himself to death from shame if it turns out his grandfather received a transfusion from a Jewish donor?
5. Can the children of a hyper-conscious Ukrainian study with a Jewish teacher if that teacher teaches Ukrainian language and literature?
6. Must a hyper-conscious Ukrainian demand to leave an airplane if it turns out mid-flight that the plane is piloted by a Jew?
7. Can a hyper-conscious Ukrainian demand that a product label indicate that there was not a single Jew among the manufacturers, and what to do if such information for a product from China is provided in Chinese?
8. Must a hyper-conscious Ukrainian convert to Judaism before death so that there will be one less Jew after death?
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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Ariputra hates two things the most: racism and Jews)).
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This is a subjective factor. An ant has its own concept of order, and a human has its own. An ant cannot understand human logic, although humans have largely explained the logic of ants. Perhaps, in our universe, there are beings who can understand our logic and whose logic we cannot understand.
Worms born in manure have their own order (to burrow deeper into the manure), which seems repulsive to humans.

I disagree that order is subjective. No one would deny that a sorted array is more ordered than an unsorted one, right? Apparently, there is a certain level of order that each person is capable of understanding, and they are unable to comprehend levels higher than that. This is exactly what it is with ants and humans. And even in manure worms, you can easily find order; the disgust for manure has nothing to do with it.
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Order is the ability to describe a system with a minimum number of parameters (probably infinite, even in the case of order). That's how I would define it. With this definition, order is subjective, as different minds "process" different ways of description: for example, it is more convenient for us to describe things with formulas, while for someone else it is more convenient to represent them visually or audibly.
 

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Similar to humans, everyone has their own concept of order, because what one person considers order, another might consider chaos, and vice versa. This also applies to tasks. But ideally, the definition of order should be uniform and not subject to dispute (with the caveat that one must possess all the initial data and adjustments).
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Order is the ability to describe a system with a minimum number of parameters.

That's spot on, you're speaking the truth! Although I would make a slight correction:

An ordered system is a system that can be described with a finite number of parameters. And the smaller the minimum number of parameters for its description, the more ordered it is.

And if the minimum number of parameters is infinite, then it is already chaos.

And from this definition, it clearly follows that order is not subjective, but absolute. If it was possible to describe the system with a finite number of parameters, then it can be said with certainty that it is ordered. If it was possible to reduce the number of parameters, it means that it turned out to be more ordered. But this is, of course, only when choosing an absolute method of description. Here again the question arises - does such a method exist? Again, it's unclear. Currently, logic and the sciences that are built on it serve as such a method. But they are constantly expanding and will expand to infinity.
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ariputra, thanks for the link to Alexander Koloyev's article! I read it. The author is great: concise, expressive, and to the point!:smile20: I logged in, liked it. I'm ready to agree with every word! Perhaps, it's worth quoting some statements:
Okay, religion. If someone wants to believe in a cosmic alien Jew, let them continue to believe. But the situation with esotericism is completely different, even though part of esotericism originated from Buddhism and religions of the Hindu type.
Esotericism is not based on faith, but supposedly on secret knowledge. Esoterics don't say that you need to believe in the existence of chakras or the influence of planets on us, but they directly state that this is actually the case, it's just that not everyone knows it yet.
Moreover, they criminally try to justify their nonsense with scientific methodology: on the Internet, you can find thousands of films that supposedly prove the existence of the soul, chakras, subtle bodies, and other nonsense. Criminal, because misleading people is fraud, for which they should be put in jail.
How can anyone think that some shamans-gurus who lived in ancient times could know more about the world and about humans than modern scientists who have split the atom and deciphered the human genome?
If you want to know yourself and the world, why not read a textbook on quantum physics? Try to understand the structure of deoxyribonucleic acid? Or at least just read popular science literature?

Is it difficult? Not smart enough? Well, of course, it's much easier to completely turn off your brain, start listening to lectures on Vedic astrology, fortune-telling by palmistry, or even meditate.
And, unfortunately, there will always be more such people. Why? Because of the simple reason that in our world, manure prevails over pearls, ore over metal, pop music over symphonies, and scum over decent people.
A country that sent the first person into space is sliding into a new Middle Ages.
Esotericism is a surrogate spirituality. When esotericists say that they are spiritually developed, I want to answer: "No, you are just mentally ill."
Will these "spiritual" people build spaceships? Invent a cure for cancer? Create masterpieces of art? Obviously not. Because instead of brains, a rotten mush is bubbling under their skulls, in which words like "aura," "astral," "chakras," "karma," "soul," "spirituality" float like sh*t.
I would freeze all those who practice magic, cleanse karma... seal them in steel containers and send them to a radioactive waste storage facility. Perhaps, after a couple of thousand years, after a period of decay, waking up in a new world that has buried primitive superstitions, they would turn into normal people.
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I would act more humanely: I would send all charlatans to a deserted island from which it is impossible to escape and where there is no connection to the world, after making sure that there is enough water and food and no large predators. And to a neighboring island - soldiers dreaming of world domination, where they would sort things out with each other using fists, clubs, and stone axes! :)
O.G. Torsunov is the author of popular scientific publications in the CIS: ... "The Healing Power of Stones"
You shouldn't have written that: now I clearly understand what level this "scientist" is!
His works can definitely be found on the same shelf as such writings as "Dream Book," "3000 Siberian Healer's Spells," "Fortune-telling by Cow Dung," and other junk. It reminds me of the wonderful "Excellent Girl of Easy Virtue":
- Where is your "Bible"?
- It's in the bestsellers section, next to "Twilight."
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And I actually believe in the great power of stones: it's not for nothing that they say "A cobblestone is the weapon of the proletariat"! Let's say, an opponent in an argument says to you: "This conspiracy theory of yours is nonsense!", and you hit him on the head with a stone - and that's it, silence, the discussion is over! :D
(here "you" is not a transition to "you," but only a figure of speech)
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(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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The article isn't very good, actually. Firstly, there are scientists who are believers, and even superstitious ones, and those who practice Kabbalah, for example. Steve Jobs, if I'm not mistaken, was a Buddhist. So, there's a certain inquisitorial style to it.
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Oelm
The article isn't very good, actually. Firstly, there are religious scientists, and even superstitious ones, and those who practice Kabbalah, for example. Steve Jobs, if I'm not mistaken, was a Buddhist. So, there's a kind of inquisitorial style to it.
It's a normal article, it covers everything, you just need to understand its meaning correctly.
"Шанс есть всегда, но не везде." ;)
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Oelm
The article isn't very good, actually. Firstly, there are religious scientists, and even superstitious ones, and those who practice Kabbalah, for example. Steve Jobs, if I'm not mistaken, was a Buddhist. So, there's a kind of inquisitorial style going on.
Steve Jobs wasn't a scientist, nor even an inventor.
But the article is good, I approve.
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It's a normal article, it gets straight to the point, you just need to understand its meaning correctly.
So, according to you, blatant rudeness, aggression, and malice are normal?
The fact that this uncouth, unmannered boor insults all people who believe in God, in a Higher Power – smears them with dirt, mixes them with manure – without any reason – is that normal in your opinion?
Aggression, especially unmotivated aggression, is the first sign of cowardice, of a weak person.
The fact that this boor and coward suggests freezing to death everyone whose views differ from his own – is that normal in your opinion? I already understand that you are an atheist. But are you sure that your mother, grandmother, grandfather, father, children – won't be on his list for freezing?
There are simply people who have no limits and only understand the language of force, and it is useless to explain anything to them.
Let him say this to the face of some master of sports in combat sambo who himself believes in God, and whose parents, grandmother, and grandfather believe! He will immediately spit out his teeth. And all his arrogance will turn into 0.
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And how should we correctly understand this article?
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