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Offline ariputra
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aK9KjMu7jI
a montage that portrays Putin's speech in a way that vaguely resembles the actual state of affairs (and it's not even certain that it's the same person, but rather an actor skillfully playing him).
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
"Неизвестная история человечества. Запрещенная археология (с иллюстрациями), Майкл Кремо, Ричард Томпсон,479с,1.46 Мб.
Вакцинация младенцев в роддомах преступление!
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ariputra, I watched the video, thanks! :)
I think it's a montage of separate clips from Putin's speech, very carefully edited – but these days, it's not as difficult as it was 20 years ago.
Воскресайте, камінні душі, Розчиняйте серця і чоло, Щоб не сказали Про вас грядущі: їх на землі не було…
(Василь Симоненко. Люди – прекрасні)
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R55Max, LOL, how long do you think it would take to fire all the shots on morale? That's at least disrespectful to the opponent (if I were in Sevan's place, I would have expressed myself more rudely). And he even posted a victory after such nonsense, what a guy!))
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R55Max, LOL, how long do you think it would take to fire all the shots with morale? That's at least disrespectful to the opponent (if I were in Sevan's place, I would have expressed myself more rudely). And he posted a victory after such nonsense, what a guy!))

You don't necessarily have to wait until the end. If you see that the situation is theoretically possible, why drag it out? I didn't fully understand what each player had left on the battlefield. But it's obvious to me that if you have 50 Cerberuses and your opponent has 1 Angel (and no magic), the issue is resolved with 1 morale boost. In this case, I assume the issue was also resolved with a morale boost, but it was resolved regardless. So, if Sevan80 is unhappy, he should be unhappy with his own game. Here, he should have either retreated or typed GG and not dragged it out. IMHO.
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R55Max, LOL, how long do you think it would take to fire all the shots in the morale phase? That's at least disrespectful to the opponent (if I were in Sevan's place, I would have expressed myself more rudely). And he even posted a victory after such nonsense, what a guy!))

Actually, R55Max did the right thing. Sevan should have understood the situation and either bought off the remaining gargoyles or waited to be shot down; there was nothing else he could do – his situation was hopeless. How long it would take doesn't matter, because in this situation, he had already lost.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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R55Max, LOL, how long do you think it would take to fire all the shots in the morale boosters? That's at least disrespectful to the opponent (if I were in Sevan's place, I would have expressed myself more rudely). And he even posted a victory after such nonsense, what a guy!))
Ihti, don't write about things you don't know. Both players contacted me via ICQ with this problem, and after consulting with the members of the AC, I made this decision.
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In this case, I understand that the issue was also resolved through morality, but it was resolved in any case.

As far as I understand, the issue was not resolved with 1 morality, but with 24 moralities)).
numOne
Actually, R55Max did everything correctly.

Well, personally for him, the solution is correct, it is the most optimal way out of the situation. But in my opinion, such a position of "winning at any cost" (and here it wasn't even about winning, but about saving the angel) is very mercenary. According to the rules, there is nothing to criticize here, everything is normal, but from the point of view of elementary human ethics, in my opinion, he did not act very well.

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Ikhti, don't write what you don't know, both players contacted me in ICQ with this problem, and after consulting with the members of the AC, I made this decision.

Well, good job, what can I say? I didn't write what I don't know, I just expressed my opinion about the situation.
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Offline Егор Коробейников
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As far as I understand, the issue wasn't resolved with one, but with 24 moral choices)).


Well, personally, for him, it was the right decision, the most optimal solution for the situation. But, in my opinion, such a position of "winning at any cost" (and here it wasn't even about winning, but about saving the angel) is quite mercenary. According to the rules, there's nothing to criticize, everything is normal, but from the point of view of elementary human ethics, I don't think he acted very well.

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Well, good job, what can I say? I didn't write anything I didn't know, I just expressed my opinion about the situation.
Well, then let's take 2 minutes to move and not micro at all? Why force each other to wait? Should we put vampires on map 131 and run around destroying everything with them? Back when I played with friends 3 years ago, we always moved very quickly and didn't buy more than 3 heroes so we wouldn't have to wait for each other?
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As far as I understand, the issue wasn't resolved with one moral choice, but with 24! Well, personally, for him, it was the right decision, the most optimal solution for the situation. But in my opinion, this position of "winning at any cost" (and here it wasn't even about winning, but about saving the angel) is quite mercenary. According to the rules, there's nothing to criticize, everything is normal, but from the point of view of basic human ethics, I don't think he acted very well.

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Well done, what can I say? I didn't write anything I didn't know, I just expressed my opinion about the situation.
Just don't try to fit the overall morality to your own.
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As far as I understand, the issue wasn't resolved with one, but with 24 moral choices. Well, for him personally, it's definitely the right solution, the most optimal way out of the situation. But in my opinion, this "win at any cost" approach (and here it wasn't even about winning, but about saving the angel) is quite mercenary. There's nothing to criticize in terms of the rules, everything is fine, but from the point of view of basic human ethics, I don't think he acted very well.
Nonsense. In such a situation, you call your opponent on ICQ and explain the situation. If the opponent is a decent person, they'll bring in enough weak units to be directly targeted until there are enough to be bought off. If they're not decent, that's their problem.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

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Yegor Korobeynikov
Okay, then let’s just take 2 minutes each and avoid micromanaging altogether? Why force each other to wait?

You should write that here instead: )) /topic/10011/
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As far as I understand, the issue wasn't resolved with one, but with 24 moral choices)).


Well, personally, for him, it was the right decision, the most optimal solution for the situation. But in my opinion, such a position of "winning at any cost" (and here it wasn't even about winning, but about saving the angel) is quite mercenary. According to the rules, there's nothing to criticize, everything is normal, but from the point of view of elementary human ethics, I don't think he acted very well.

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Well done, what can I say? I didn't write anything I didn't know, I just expressed my opinion about the situation.
In the second Heroes game, they usually agreed: "I won't run, destroy 4 (7) units, and I'll pay you off." If the opponent decided not to negotiate, R55 had no other option than to do what he did.

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Ihtiandr

Well, personally, for him, it was the right decision, the most optimal solution for the situation. But in my opinion, this "win at any cost" approach (and here it wasn't even about winning, but about saving the angel) is quite mercenary. There's nothing to criticize in terms of the rules, everything is normal, but from the point of view of basic human ethics, I don't think he acted very well.
The player didn't want to lose an extra army. If you're not ready to chase after him and wait for him to regain his morale, kill the cart and defend. Don't like it? Then chase until your opponent's morale drops.
Qwerty was faster :)
Мой ник Heroes, и никто не вынесет меня
Скажу я вам, мои друзья.
Я некромант, я маг великий, и армия моя
Непобедимая, огромная!
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You simply shouldn't force the overall morality to conform to your own.

I agree, it's a wise thought, but it's a bit out of place.
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As far as I understand, the issue wasn't resolved with one, but with 24 moralities))

What difference does it make, even if it were 94. The situation is inherently unwinnable, which is a problem for the opponent, but not yours. If he doesn't like it, he writes to the game master and quits, or retreats. But he doesn't complain about life :D

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Does anyone ask the zombies if they feel they are being treated unfairly?

Because with such reasoning about "etiquette, honor, and dignity," you can get to the point where: you attacked me without warning, that's not fair! We should have agreed before attacking. You holed up in a castle and withstood the attack, that's not fair! Otherwise, I would have beaten you in the field. You destroyed my ballista, but if you hadn't, I would have won and so on.
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За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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