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Are you okay with the turn time limit of 8(L)-10(XL) minutes in SoD?
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#152
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I personally play on Balance L and enjoy it, even without the No Death mod, and I finish the game in about 6 minutes.
On Jebus XL, I often finish in around 8 minutes, also without your No Death mod.
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In most of the turns in a game you dont need the 8/10 min as the time limit gives you, but in the key turns you need it, often you even need more time. So just reducing the time limit isnt an option in my opinion. But there are other ways to get shorter games.

1. Simultaneous turns. Not realistic at the moment, but maybe in the future.

2. Better quick combat. Not realistic at the moment, but maybe in the future.

3. Chess timer that dosent run in combats. By playing fast in the beginning you will have more time in the end. I think this could be a major improvement. Much time is wasted today by people running the clock down or spending 1 to 2 min to double check everything. With this change everybody will end the turn asap, since you never know how much time you will need later. This also means that if you have been fast early you will actually have the time you need in the key turns.

4. Overall timer. A timer that will show how much time each player spent overall. Maybe just revealed after the game. I doubt many players want an image of beeing very slow, so if you can see the actual time spent by each player I think that will motivate many to speed things up.
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Maretti
In most of the turns in a game you dont need the 8/10 min as the time limit gives you, but in the key turns you need it, often you even need more time. So just reducing the time limit isnt an option in my opinion. But there are other ways to get shorter games.

1. Simultaneous turns. Not realistic at the moment, but maybe in the future.

2. Better quick combat. Not realistic at the moment, but maybe in the future.

3. Chess timer that dosent run in combats. By playing fast in the beginning you will have more time in the end. I think this could be a major improvement. Much time is wasted today by people running the clock down or spending 1 to 2 min to double check everything. With this change everybody will end the turn asap, since you never know how much time you will need later. This also means that if you have been fast early you will actually have the time you need in the key turns.

4. Overall timer. A timer that will show how much time each player spent overall. Maybe just revealed after the game. I doubt many players want an image of beeing very slow, so if you can see the actual time spent by each player I think that will motivate many to speed things up.
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Creator of HD-mod told, that he will include in next versions overall timer like it works in Chinese program.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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2 Captain. Call Maretti to Moscow for the championship. 1. He hasn't seen Moscow. 2. He hasn't experienced Christmas after the New Year. 3. Ultimately, he hasn't seen Stinger in person. And Stinger hasn't seen him.
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2 Captain. Call Maretti to Moscow for the championship. 1. He hasn't seen Moscow. 2. He hasn't seen Christmas after the New Year. 3. In the end, he hasn't seen Stinger in person. And Stinger hasn't seen him.
Forget Moscow and Stinger, Maretti didn't even come to Kyiv for Euro 2012 :) when I invited him.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Nagan-4: There's a topic about him not being able to get a Russian visa in time. He should have been invited earlier. Otherwise, meeting him, arranging accommodation, and transportation isn't a problem; I can take care of that.
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Maretti
1. Simultaneous turns. Not realistic at the moment, but maybe in the future.
already done in WT-version, but not complete :(
Maretti
2. Better quick combat. Not realistic at the moment, but maybe in the future.
already done in HD-mode.
Maretti
3. Chess timer that dosent run in combats. By playing fast in the beginning you will have more time in the end. I think this could be a major improvement. Much time is wasted today by people running the clock down or spending 1 to 2 min to double check everything. With this change everybody will end the turn asap, since you never know how much time you will need later. This also means that if you have been fast early you will actually have the time you need in the key turns.
full agree
Maretti
4. Overall timer. A timer that will show how much time each player spent overall. Maybe just revealed after the game. I doubt many players want an image of beeing very slow, so if you can see the actual time spent by each player I think that will motivate many to speed things up.
good. will soon be in the new versions HD
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Captain
What about Moscow and Stinger? Maretti didn't even come to Kyiv for Euro 2012 :)
even though I invited him.

If you communicate with him easily, it would be better to help him set up his stream. Because the quality is terrible through TeamViewer, and there are lags. Plus, the ability to watch a recording of a strong player's game is a huge plus.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Lider1
If you communicate with him easily, it would be better to help him set up a stream. Because the quality is terrible through TeamViewer, and there are lags :( . Plus, the ability to watch a recording of a strong player's game is a huge plus.
I communicate easily, but I can't help with something I don't understand at all :)))
I don't know what a stream is and how to set it up :)
I only watched one video - I accidentally clicked on Seven's game - it was awful. 4 minutes of video, and more than 2 minutes are spent showing how to turn on music and browse Seven's computer - I didn't even get to the heroes :)))
Is it impossible to make a quality video in streams? By cutting out at least the unnecessary parts that are not related to the game...

Just recently, Yegor Korobeynikov helped me set up TeamViewer.
Thank you to him for that.
We have a big problem with this on our portal - I contacted Pete, and he gave links that are difficult to understand.
I think I'll write a post myself about Hamu, TeamViewer, GameRanger, stream, Lighter, and HD-mod. And I'll do it right away in English, because few people in the world have heard of this.
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
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Captain
I communicate easily, but I can't help with things I don't know myself :)))
I don't know what a stream is and how to set it up. :)
In principle, I can help you set up a stream. The whole setup will take about 10 minutes.
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Captain

I only watched one video – I accidentally clicked on a Seven's game – it was awful. 4 minutes of video, and more than 2 minutes of it showed how to turn on the music and navigate Seven's computer – I didn't even get to the heroes :)))
Is it impossible to make a quality video in streams? At least by cutting out the unnecessary parts that are not related to the game...


You watched 4 minutes and are already complaining. Use the fast-forward function. If you don't know how, there's a playback bar; you need to click on it a little further along.:smile11:
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I watched a stream and saw something interesting there. At the beginning, there's a vantage point visible just a few steps away, immediately accessible from the start. Turn: Timer 10:00. A hero is purchased and takes a couple of steps towards the vantage point. Then, there's a frantic scrolling of the map for almost FIVE minutes! The second hero runs to the left side at 5:14. The third hero runs in another direction at 4:01. The fourth hero appears by the three-minute mark. During the turn, besides the two groups taken by the first hero, nothing else was acquired. The moves of all four heroes were in straight lines in different directions. Question: Do you need 10 minutes for the game or for slow decision-making?
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RiMpel2
Question: Do you feel like you don't have enough time to play or to think things through?
Nothing surprising, the first law of Parkinson is in action: Work expands to fill the time available for its completion.
The argument about the quality of the game is amusing. If Russian football players are given 2 halves of 90 minutes each, how much will the quality of the game increase? :)
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RiMpel2
I watched a stream and saw something interesting there.
At the beginning, there's a vantage point just a few steps away, visible right from the start.
Turn: Timer at 10:00.
A hero is purchased and takes a couple of steps towards the vantage point.
Then, there's almost FIVE minutes of frantic map scrolling!
The second hero runs to the left side at 5:14.
The third hero runs in another direction at 4:01.
The fourth hero appears by the three-minute mark. In one turn, besides two groups taken by the first hero, nothing else was acquired. The moves of all four heroes were in straight lines in different directions. Question: Do you need 10 minutes for the game or for slow thinking?

Let's see your nickname.
Не бійся коли ти один, бійся коли ти нуль.

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Satyr
Let's hear your nickname.
Shhh, maybe he'll understand and respond himself:rolleyes: