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I don't understand what "check" means.
It means - "we have it too."
And it's hard to question something that doesn't exist.
Okay. Users in our section have no complaints regarding the actions or inactions of our moderators. Is that better?
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Andrey
P.S. I just left the site, then thought "shouldn't I bet myself 5 bucks that the person who created this topic is not a moderator?". I came back, checked – and it’s true. He isn’t a moderator)). Only one answer arose in my head to the question “Why does he need this?” - he wants to become a moderator)).
Andrey, before accusing anyone of anything, read this first: /topic/at/619161/ and think carefully.

In general, regarding the topic: IMHO, I don't see anything wrong with choosing moderators. Provided that this won't be the only way to become a moderator. i.e., as I envision it: a person posts in this thread: /topic/4720/ saying they want to moderate a specific section. The coordinator/creator either immediately rejects the application (if it’s clear that the user cannot be relied upon) or creates a voting thread, based on which a decision is made.
If a certain person is needed in a specific position, then they can be appointed without a vote.

This system, as it seems to me, would be quite viable. Another question: but is it even necessary (i.e., should we choose moderators for ХВ right now)? Are there any complaints about the current moderators (except for the absence of some of them)?

Anyway, good luck to everyone!

Кто состоянием своим доволен, тому жить весело. (с)Алекса́ндр Васи́льевич Суво́ров
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Well, that’s great! So you overlooked it; what can you do? They say this section is complex and has a lot of content; sometimes, you might miss something. That's why the brick under the messages is really needed.
You overlooked it? Okay.
/topic/at/628519/
You also overlooked it? Well, at least in this thread, Arandor has already written several posts:)
You could say the same about any section – that each one has its own peculiarities. No, I completely agree with Siver, and I find it strange that there are even doubts here. One thing is to help, point out violations, maybe even give advice on how to proceed in some special cases. It's quite another to take action independently; that's simply disrespectful to the local moderators.
But no one is doing that now. On the contrary, Arandor is unhappy with the opposite:
If there are no problems with this in sections 3 and 4, it doesn't mean that such control isn't necessary in other forum sections. It turns out to be an egoistic approach if people only think about one branch of the tree.
Or he wrote something strangely.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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So, just leave them there then. Currently, that's not happening.
Do I bring up issues from a section or give specific people orders to do so? It wasn't me who started the topic about the WoW section.
"Disputes" is putting it mildly, considering that an entire new appeals section was created specifically because of the "mafias."
More likely, it's because of specific people who have an excessive amount of a certain substance in their system.

I've already answered the rest.

Or he wrote it strangely.
There are many other sections on Hv besides 3, 4, and WoW.

Be strong. Believe
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Okay. Users in our section have no complaints regarding the actions or inactions of our moderators. Is that better?
I gave you an example with Tox regarding this.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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No one is doing that now.
Really?
I gave you an example with Tox about this.
If Tox saw an offense, he could and should have asked a moderator to intervene.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Do I address problems by moving them to a separate section or by giving specific instructions to individuals to handle them? I didn't initiate the discussion about dividing the WoW section.
You aren't doing much. And not the other way around. Do you feel the difference?
Because you aren't doing anything, people feel they can act with impunity. First, only in your section. Then in others.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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Really?
Example
If Tox saw an offense, he could and should have asked a moderator to intervene.
But he chose to lash out. I'm not arguing, he's also at fault, but why are sanctions only against him, and not against you, for example?


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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Then in others.
Fortunately, that's exactly what moderators of the "other" sections are for – so that if a violation is discovered in their section, they can punish it according to their own discretion and the forum rules. Until then, they have no right, even a formal one, to interfere.
Example
The actions of moderator Slonysh towards user Mestear. If she had complained to the section moderator, then the hassle with appeals could have been avoided.
I don't argue, he is also to blame, but why are sanctions only against him, and not against you, for example?
I was given points for flaming, TROLLING, and something else.
Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?
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Until then, they have no right, not even a formal one, to interfere.
Formally, they do, but personally, I see this right as applying to a critical situation, when the moderator of that section is absent for some reason, and spammers or pornography enthusiasts are running rampant. Then, of course, the violation needs to be stopped, and then wait for the moderator to arrive and clean it up.
 

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Fortunately, that's exactly what moderators of "other" sections are for – so that if a violation is discovered in their section, they can punish it according to their own discretion and the forum rules. Until then, they have no right, not even a formal one, to interfere.
We're talking about this, and it's still about Arandor, not you.
If there are problems in a section, they remain there and don't bother anyone, and eventually they are resolved.


Барон
"Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!



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These aren’t little kids that need to be taught manners. If I see profanity, I delete it, just as Pavel suggested. It’s difficult to keep track of everything, but no one is stopping anyone from writing a private message if someone is offended. Although, in this section, people are already used to this kind of communication, and no one gets offended. As for trolling, it’s a very subjective concept and depends entirely on the people involved. If a person is sensitive and has a negative attitude, they will notice it everywhere. Any joke can become trolling if you want it to.

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To be honest, I don't understand anything. Have there been cases where someone wanted to be a moderator, but they weren't allowed?
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There have been instances where a schoolchild became a moderator, created a clone account for themselves, boosted their own stats, and engaged in other foolish activities.

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Arandor
There have been instances where a schoolkid became a moderator, created a clone account, boosted their own stats, and engaged in other foolish activities.
This is to prevent such cases from happening. Moderators should be appointed by moderators of the respective section. And anyone can vote FOR.

It is possible to have elections in 2 stages.
1. Approval by moderators
2. User voting

But is it worth it?

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