Posts from To Vigo or not to Vigo? That is the question.

For disagreeing or for not being a member of the "Phoenix Order"? I mean, if you're going to demand that punitive measures be taken, then please provide justification.

I am a vivid example of what happens without an AK — it was shown in the last world cup, where the organizer messed up completely, couldn't handle the pressure from the players, and ended up abandoning the tournament.

Let's hold a poll.

Look, I already said that sometimes I don't play alone! If an experienced person was standing behind my back, or two players telling me what to do and how to do it correctly, does that count as them playing? If you think so, then it's clear. I never hid this! And in ICQ, I warned that I'm, like, at Vitalik's place or something like "we're thinking about this together" or something similar.

I see, so in principle, any player who went into the darkness in a treasury and found something sweet can be accused of maphack. (Although in that game, that wasn't the case at all; I ran to Seven's hero by the flag, went in with full confidence, and it turned out he was the GG ))) So the invincible Seven just snapped because of my luck)))
Well whatever, we're just beating a dead horse.
You've stated your position. I disagree with the accusation.
To avoid creating moral clutter and not distracting the AK staff from their duties, I ask that you create a poll in this thread. After all, many players' fates were decided this way—who to ban, who to unban, etc.
Well, based on the results of the questions—whether they consider me a cheater or dishonest, whether to ban me or not, or something similar—you know better how to format the surveys. Then everything will be clear.

What is this circus? Where is it stated, and who said, that a player cannot have any help in the game??? Have you overplayed yourselves? Or underplayed—it doesn't seem like that at all)...
In Vigo's place, I would admit to repeated assistance (in any form—legitimate—without maphack) from friends and demand the presentation of official claims regarding maphack—and in case of failure to provide them—an official apology and punishment of the persons responsible in the specific situation!
P.S. Every streamer gets dozens of tips in their ears—as a lawyer, I see no difference between who can "sing" better—the renowned Vitalik sitting next to Vigo, or a dozen fans... in any case, this is one form of prompting—with the same responsibility... which there isn't and cannot be... what is not forbidden is permitted... come down from the heavens to earth!

B100dy, why don't you take, say, 20 saves from 50 currently active players. Review them all, and estimate the average skill deviation of a specific player, and then across the forum. Because, you see, they look at saves for a couple of people trying to find maphack, but the fact that half the forum might play absolutely the same way doesn't bother anyone.

Wait, are you speaking for yourself now or for all of AK? As I understand it, all the renowned material is with Pit—which is evidenced by your words above:
"The analysis is being done for the forum, as you requested. As soon as Pit posts all the material, everyone will be able to evaluate it (if they have the strength to read and verify everything) and decide for themselves."
In a word—I conclude—specifically you have no facts—we are waiting for Pit and his "dossier"—well, I am just expressing my opinion—the game with Sevensan and Mike in no way looks like maphack—I can express my opinion, can't I?
Then a counter-question—if Vigo was silent for a month—then Pit was silent for so many years, collecting (for what purpose is unclear) facts of assistance during gameplay by third-party players (although this is not forbidden as I understand)—I feel that based on the other facts from the collected collection, we will not reach a consensus—there is no such rule—to play by a template and always lose to a stronger player!

2 Wicc
See the attachment. This is just for you. Is that enough proof?

Vigo was accused of maphacking. The Vigoboy incident was cited as evidence. And the story is simple: a father helped his son, once or twice. It's not right, of course, but it's understandable, ALTHOUGH NOT FOR EVERYONE. What does this have to do with maphacking?

Further. Vigo was accused of maphacking. The Aladdin incident was cited as evidence. This story is about a team captain who betrayed his players, a story about camaraderie and betrayal. What does this have to do with maphacking?

Let me tell you this. If I were asked, "Can Vigo maphack?" I would honestly say, "I'm sure he can't. Besides, he's not interested in it." He's a different person by nature. No one is going to try to put a halo on him or give him wings, but Vigo won't maphack.

Kostya, there is some truth in your words, but for a gross player with 2500 rating to win a tournament against equally skilled opponents... And yet, Eddie won. By the way, take a look at the attachment; it's just one example of what might interest AK. Otherwise, it seems that Alexa and a number of other people are not being targeted, but Vigo is. Do you remember whose motto was, "Cheating against losers is not a sin"?

2 Wicc
See the attachment. This is just for you. Is that enough proof?

Did you even download the save files?

Mods, thank you for awarding points to user B100dy, but it’s not enough. :)
He is groundlessly accusing a player who either didn’t receive a ban or whose accusation was not properly formulated. :

Vik, after reading your lengthy post, I remembered the old you, the one who used to write so much, but when you read it, there was nothing there. :(. It seems that recently you have improved and started writing – facts, evidence, conclusions. But here again – just a lot of words. :(
Reread what you wrote. Or was it written while you were drunk?
You have neither one fact nor one conclusion.

Pit and NumVan, you are right, and you are doing a great job, but in my opinion, you shouldn’t focus so much on the details that you miss the bigger picture and connect everything possible. I think you treated Vitalik unfairly; he brought more benefit to the Heroes community than possible map hackers.

SevenSun, if you are afraid of getting 4 losses, then you are not at the level where you can claim 1st place in the tournament, and about your self-esteem… I think ironically. We are not playing for cows, be more relaxed. It’s just a game. :

Vigo, now play only with password-protected saves and try to stream and show how you play. Although people will still think about your “friend.” So, come to Eric’s meetup in Moscow and show your level. Although, in my opinion, it’s not a big deal; you never seemed to be aiming for the top places.

If Pit releases more series for LM...

Then a counter-question: if Vigo was silent for a month, then Pit has been silent for so many years, collecting (it's unclear why) facts about outside players helping with the game (although this is not prohibited, as far as I understand).

It is forbidden on HeroesWorld to register two accounts with one user.

After some time, the defense will provide the requested information and submit an appeal.

A photo with a date, from the Phoenix meeting, where Vitalik was present, but Vigo wasn't, and on that day Vigo had a game.

Vigo has a certain spectrum of work that is very seasonal, and this season falls in the last month. That is, there is a lot of work during this time, simply unreal. Vigo couldn't even get away for an hour to the Phoenix meeting because he was so busy.

I was in a place where there was no computer or I couldn't access one.

Here is someone playing. Streaming.

The Money Tournament on HP and my relationship with Верховный and Кэч have something to do with accusations of unfair play and maphacking????!

I lose almost 100% of rating games, but in tournaments, I try to play as focused as possible, and the win rate is higher there.

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6.04.2012 SERbGA (Blue, random, Fortress, random, Gerwulf, Gerwulf) def Vigo (Red, random, Necropolis, random, Tamika, Tamika) 2SM4d(3) 144

Perhaps someone from your friends was nearby and giving advice!