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Vigo deserves to be on the Blacklist
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Vigo was unfairly added to the Blacklist and should be removed from it
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Teach your son not to be afraid to play without support and to lose – he won’t be punished for losing. After all, there won’t always be someone to advise him on what to do.
Техника в руках индейца мертва.
Справочник по НоММ-4 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-heroes-iv.html
Памятка по НоММ-3 http://handbookhmm.ru/pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii.html
и HotA http://handbookhmm.ru/vyishla-obnovlennaya-pamyatka-dlya-homm-iii-hota.html
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The Tribunal is taking a break, haha. It seems that someone from the AK Vigo team really displeased someone.
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Albert@s, this isn't for you. It's for AK.

They posted 2 games played by Vigo at the same time as an example. You should take a look at the saves; it's a shame they aren't all organized by day for a complete picture of the absurdity. In the first game, it's clear what happened: when all of Vigo's heroes went down through the stable, he didn't even bother to scout along the way. Maybe that's a normal start for a decent player, scouting a small area the size of a ruble. How is that even possible? He doesn't try to go for the secondary resource, he just runs his main hero around the upgrade locations, even though there are trolls and pikemen ahead, and then crypts and a path. And in the end, he rushes his main hero into the darkness, nowhere, from the tier 3 building, and gets ambushed. Great story =)
And in the second game, he has 2 horse huts and 1 angel hut, 3 resource buildings, and they're all near the road. He has a Necropolis with a converter, and he can't seem to make it work.
I understand there's plenty of other material besides this.
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The Tribune is taking a break, haha. It seems someone from the AK didn't quite impress Vigo.
Haven't you figured it out yet? ))))))

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Albert@s, not for you. But for AK, there is.

They posted two games played by Vigo at the same time as an example. You should check out the saves; it's a shame they don't have everything broken down by day for the full absurdity of the situation. In the first game, it's clear what happened: when all of Vigo's heroes went down through the stables, he didn't even bother to scout along the way; maybe that's a normal start for a decent player, scouting a small area the size of a ruble. How is that even possible? He doesn't try to get to the secondary resource, he just runs his main hero around the upgrade locations, even though there are trolls and pikemen ahead, and behind them, crypts and a path. And in the end, he rushes his main hero into the darkness, nowhere, from the third-tier town, and gets ambushed. Great story =)
And in the second game, he has 2 horse huts and 1 angel hut, 3 conscripts, and it's all right by the road; he has a Necropolis Castle with a converter, and he can't even make use of it.
I understand there's plenty of other material besides this.
You seem to be a player with colossal intelligence and experience! Is it possible to see saves from your game? Or a stream – that would be a dream!
Thank you in advance!
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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B100dy, why don't you take 20 saves from 50 active players right now? Review them all and assess the average skill deviation for a specific player, and then do the same for the forum as a whole. Because apparently, only a couple of people are looking at saves, trying to find map hacks, and no one cares that half the forum might be playing just as well.
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Season 4. Charity Tournament. - "You need to teach the suckers a lesson," "money in the morning, trouble in the evening" - what does this really mean? You can say it, but the real questions are for the organizers and participants of MMM-style pyramid schemes.
In my opinion, it's a very clear description - prone to swindling and deception.
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Hold on, are you speaking for yourself or for the entire team? As I understand it, all the controversial material is with Pete, as evidenced by your words above: "The analysis is being done for the forum, as you requested. As soon as Pete posts all the material, everyone will be able to evaluate it (if they have the strength to read and verify everything) and decide for themselves." In short, I conclude that you don't have any concrete facts – we're waiting for Pete and his "dossier." And I'm just expressing my opinion – the game with Sevanson and Mike doesn't seem like map hacking to me. I can express my opinion, can't I? So, a counter-question: if Vigo was silent for a month, then Pete has been silent for years, collecting (for some unclear reason) facts about assistance during the game from outside players (although this is not prohibited, as I understand it). Based on the other facts from the collected material, I don't think we'll reach a consensus – there's no rule that says you have to play according to a template and always lose to a stronger player!
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B100dy, why don't you take 20 save files from 50 active players right now? Review them all and assess the average skill deviation for a specific player, and then do the same for the forum. Because apparently, only a couple of people are looking at save files, trying to find map hacks, and no one cares that half the forum might be playing just as well.
If, based on the analysis of games with this person, people form a certain opinion, which they will express. I think the AC will definitely conduct a detailed analysis of this opinion.
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If players, based on the results of analyzing games with this person, form a certain opinion that they will voice. I think AK will definitely do a detailed breakdown of that opinion.


If a person is paranoid, or doesn't like to lose, or someone was rude to them in the chat, or didn't give them auto. Then yes, that person might run to AK. And maphack is just a reason that could apply to 50% of games on HeroesWorld, but nobody checks every game for the presence of that fact.
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Is it possible to view your game saves? Or a stream – that would be a dream come true!
Thank you in advance!
Definitely, it's a shame you won't see the maphack you're used to there.
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Definitely, it's a shame you won't see the maphack you're used to.
I've never cheated; it's not interesting to me, but that's not really relevant to you.
Can you tell me where I can find your results for official or online games? Or maybe some tournaments? It doesn't even matter which resources.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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RiMpel2, I think I understand why the TC has to deliberate and make its decisions in closed session. There is a complete and absolute picture upon which a decision has been made. And then it begins: one person believes he must defend some notorious "honor of the clan" and spout any nonsense, including about the presumption of innocence, unwilling to open his eyes to the simple truth — that their comrade is rotten. Another, out of friendly motives, starts adding his own input. Then a couple of people appear who write generally about the overall player base. Someone considers it their duty to pick out some fact from the list, cast doubt on it, or provide conditions under which its application is generally incorrect. And so on.

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I have never cheated, I am not interested in that, but it doesn't really matter to you anyway.
Can you tell me if there is somewhere to see your results in offline or online games? Or any tournaments? It doesn't even matter on which platforms.
Of course, the neighbor's boy cheated.
And may I ask in return? Where can one see your games, just games without MХ?
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RiMpel2, I think I understand why the AC needs to deliberate and make its decisions in closed session. There is a complete, absolute picture based on which a decision is made. And then it begins: one person thinks he must defend some so-called honor of the clan and spout any nonsense, including about the presumption of innocence, unwilling to open his eyes to the truth — that their comrade is rotten. Another, out of friendly motives, starts adding his own two cents. Then a couple of people show up who write in general terms regarding the overall mass of players. Someone considers it his duty to pick out some fact from the list, cast doubt on it, or bring up conditions in which its application is generally incorrect. And so on.

Have you already defined your role? :rolleyes:
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RiMpel2, I think I understand why the AC (Arbitration Committee) needs to deliberate and make its decisions in a closed session. There is a complete, absolute picture based on which a decision is made. And then it starts: one person thinks they must defend some so-called clan honor and spout any nonsense, including about the presumption of innocence, unwilling to open their eyes to the truth — that their comrade is rotten. Another, out of friendly motives, starts adding their own input. Then a couple of people appear who write in general terms regarding the overall player base. Someone considers it their duty to pick out some fact from the list, cast doubt on it, or bring up conditions under which its application is generally incorrect. And so on.
I believe there should be ONE chief judge, and the AC is like a jury — they give their opinion — but ONE person should make the decision (pass the verdict), then it would be fine...
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Of course, the neighbor's kid was cheating.
And can I ask a counter-question? Where can I see your games, but only games without Might & Magic?

Well, my games, statistics, by seasons, etc., were compiled by the highly respected Pyotr.

Where can I see your achievements?
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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