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First of all, I didn't intend to discuss anything with you. I asked a direct question. Secondly,
we will have different points of view, let's take the entire Heroes of Might and Magic community with its different points of view, let's take the entire rest of the world with its own. And everyone will be right in their own way.
You are somewhat idealistically assessing the world and yourself. There aren't that many truly worthwhile points of view. There is a percentage of people who talk nonsense, and there are those who accept other people's points of view. An example of nonsense is your statement about the narrowness of the Heroes of Might and Magic community. If you remove all the unnecessary words you wrote, I see two main ideas. 1. Universal consolidation is clearly a positive phenomenon. 2. A single international ranking will attract strong players. Both statements are incorrect. Competition between different versions, structures, and variety in general has always benefited society. At least, it leads to some kind of natural selection. The popularity of various inter-portal platforms is not about some kind of consolidation; in fact, it hasn't really succeeded. It's about testing which development is better. The rest is nonsense. Regarding the ranking: a ranking itself usually attracts "hardcore" players, which doesn't necessarily relate to skill. Good players are attracted either by battles with worthy opponents (which a single ranking has nothing to do with), or by some kind of material incentive, which is even further away.
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Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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R55Max, unfortunately, you still don't understand why the VT version is needed. The VT version is used for playing XL maps. For tournaments on sk2tv, for CMs, balance adjustments, and so on, the VT version is not needed, and no one is arguing about that.
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R55Max, unfortunately, you still don't understand why the VT version is needed. The VT version is used for XL templates. For tournaments on sk2tv, for CMs, balance adjustments, etc., the VT version is not needed, and no one is arguing about that.


VT and Jebus are one and the same!
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Лето 2010.
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R55Max, unfortunately, you still don't understand why the VT version is needed. XL templates are used in the VT version. For tournaments on sk2tv, for CMs, for balance adjustments, etc., the VT version is not needed, and no one argues with that.
So, you didn't understand what I was getting at, let me explain: in tournaments on small maps, SOD players participate. They spend a significant amount of their personal time on this, which, without these tournaments, they could spend on other tournaments with larger maps. Here, we are talking about the number of tournaments on different versions. SOD players spend almost half of their (tournament) games on non-XL templates, and at the same time, there are just as many tournament games on large templates as on the VT version.
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finally found the time to reply )
I have no desire to argue, get worked up, or figure out who is better able to understand things more deeply :o
Wicc

That's exactly the problem—you're writing speculative conclusions. Not your own, of course. To see this for yourself, look at your initial post, for example. A simple Google search of statistics shows that you've exaggerated wildly. The number of abortions per year is something like 1.2-1.5M (versus your 8), and the number of drug addicts, according to various estimates, ranges from 500K to 2M (versus your 10); I don't remember about homeless children, but even in the 90s it didn't reach 4M, and now even less so. And the total population count is also laughable; you should at least know that if you're reasoning on such topics.

Here and hereafter, I am providing figures from memory; real ones may differ, but unlikely by much.

Those figures you're talking about are statistics from sources biased toward the government; of course, the same could be said about me, but my sources aren't limited to the internet, + I would only be glad if you turned out to be right. But the task isn't to find out who is right, but to understand and find out what is actually happening, not to remain in ignorance.

you say you googled the number of abortions, but this source, for example, says the opposite: http://www.russian.rfi.fr/node/54731, from 5-12 million abortions per year with a birth rate of 1.7 million

and this source (German Sterligov) claims that the official population size (equal to 142 million, which can be seen in Wikipedia, for example) unfortunately does not correspond to reality at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2yYhhZYaDg - "Sterligov on Russia's population (according to registry office data—turns out they aren't closed anymore)". And I have more reasons to believe him than official state sources.

the same goes for homeless children, but my goal isn't to prove to you that you're wrong, or that in this case you are unfortunately mistaken; the goal is to figure out how things really stand.

And in general, why do you believe official state or government-biased sources so easily?
Of course, the same can be said about these sources, but what profit does the state or its biased sources get from people thinking they are being killed, that a hidden war is being waged against them?
Wicc

Basically, after this, one can stop reading all your further reasoning and reasonably assume that they are based on sources of similar reliability, and moreover seasoned with your own hysteria. Which, as is known, greatly hinders sound analysis and increases susceptibility to all sorts of scary stories.
one can choose not to read, nobody is forcing anyone.

well, what "hysteria" are you talking about :( , I'm not calling for any revolutionary actions, my goal is simply not to be in ignorance, and it would be good if everything I wrote were just scary stories; unfortunately, this is harsh reality, if I turn out to be wrong I will only be glad. (knowledge of the law of karma allows one to understand that everything that happens to us is fair, and that the person themselves is the main cause of it)

Wicc

Since you made the claim, you're the one to prove it and provide sources. For some reason, I'm sure you won't find anything more serious than the yellow press.

I have no goal to prove anything to you, and I didn't ask you to prove anything to me, I just wanted to know about your sources, nothing more.
Wicc

Read it. See the conclusion above and below in the text.

I recall coming across a similar text of "plans for world conquest," supposedly dated to the 70s, for analysis. I don't know if I can find the link to my analysis now, but it was argued there that this text was written no earlier than 2000. In other words, even if some primary source of a similar nature existed, it was substantially reworked later, based on what had actually happened. In short, they bent the desired outcome to fit reality.

It's a similar story with various Protocols and other conspiracy literature—they are relevant only at the moment of their publication, and 10 years before or 10 years after, they look ridiculous even to people not very well-versed in the matter.

I still don't understand then—do you think the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Harvard and Houston projects, Committee 300, the Golden Billion theory, plans for the genocide of Africa, the Russian (Serbian, Belarusian, Ukrainian, etc.) peoples—that's all complete nonsense? If it's such nonsense, absurdity, gibberish, then why is everything written there being implemented now in Africa, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iran, Russia?

+ any plans, goals, intentions are carried out in accordance with time, place, and circumstances", and they have been implementing them for over a thousand years already!

Or do you think they are such fools? They are very smart! They are simply demonic by nature. (in the story you liked, the demonic nature of consciousness is described). They sincerely think everyone around them except themselves are some kind of pigs.

Their goal has always been power (which is always needed to redistribute sources of sensual pleasure) and remains so today, a thousand years later; even their methods haven't essentially changed, only the form has. And do this goal, these plans now look ridiculous after so many years?

Wicc

Many analysts argue about the structure of this group. And very different opinions exist. The interpretation you've indicated belongs to the radical wing of opinions. There are also grounded opinions that such groups (with the specified level of influence) do not exist, and what is happening logically follows from objective laws of economics and mass psychology. Truth, as usual, will be somewhere in the middle.

what is happening follows from their desire: for power, glory, wealth, and not from objective laws of economics; also, what is happening follows from the law of karma—in this case, these guys, the "Hasidic-Freemason group," are the executors of our karma. What objective laws of economics are you talking about in this case? All global crises were artificially organized by the creators of the "Federal Reserve System."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyxffXSqgiA - on the absurdity of the Harvard and Houston projects

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL8Eu0pWxbs&feature=related - Zhdanov, a professor not biased by the "state"—on the Harvard project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tETxipQ63vM&feature=related - Professor Zhdanov on the Houston project, on Committee 300, on Putin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jck40Sxi4gA&feature=related - a broadcast that was supposed to air on ORT or RTR but, I think, never did, called "Secrets of the World Government," 45 minutes.

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his lack of bias is evident at least from the fact that he dedicated his life to anti-alcohol propaganda and travels for this purpose through cities in Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, etc., and I have far more reasons to believe him than official Russian and foreign state sources.

Wicc

Who are you trying to surprise with this? The cult of the value of human life is only a few decades old, and it's a big question whether it is an achievement of civilization or a side effect of its development. Opinions on this issue diverge. But generally, they agree that in the near future, this cult will decline.

For a moral, reasonable person (I'm not referring to myself)—human life is important a priori, always, at all times, and for them this value does not decline regardless of the circumstances of place and time.

and the fact that it is currently declining testifies to moral degradation.

The value of the human form of life lies in the fact that—only in it can one understand the idea of God (and this is the only thing that distinguishes humans from animals; no technical progress yet makes a human a human). This doesn't mean that animal forms of life are not important and that they can be slaughtered in slaughterhouses. Simply, in the animal form of life, the soul is unable to understand the idea of God, but the soul there is the same.
Wicc

There have been greater victims in history (in percentage terms). Let's say, in China in the 2nd or 3rd century, after a series of wars, the population decreased from ~60 million to ~8 million, i.e., by 86%. And nothing, they survived somehow. If modern conspiracy theorists existed then, imagine what they would have cooked up... while historians describe this as a consequence of objective economic and demographic laws.

all this is a consequence of our immorality, sinfulness (sin is the conscious violation of God's laws for the material world)
Wicc

Simple common sense is enough here to understand that even if 50% of the population is vaccinated, the remaining 50% will easily fill the demographic hole. And where they don't, it will be compensated by migration from areas untouched by vaccination or from other states.

well, it would be good if everything happened exactly as you say, maybe they will fill it, but is vaccinating 50% of people with the aim of making them infertile, for example, not a crime?
but in the school where my mother works (a teacher with 35 years of experience), they have already started introducing this vaccine—"for cervical cancer prevention," which leads to haploidy.

And why do you think they will stop at 50 percent; this vaccine is planned to be introduced in all schools in Russia.
Wicc

As it happens, in all living beings, reproductive capabilities significantly exceed the objective need to maintain population. Americans learned this fact from personal experience, which is why they abandoned attempts to control the population size using this method, at least on a mass scale.

Again, there are enough competent microbiologists worldwide now, so sooner or later any biological aggression will be detected.

Well, come on, what next? Analysis methods aren't standing still either. And catching a hostile microbe and isolating its carrier from society is technologically much simpler than developing that microbe.

Why do you think they abandoned these attempts? I'm not asking you to prove this to me now, I just want to know what your sources are, I want to familiarize myself with them.
these sources, for example, say that Africa continues to be killed by AIDS (within the framework of the "Golden Billion theory").

That is, effectively you are claiming that it's easier to build than to break, that curing AIDS in a person is easier than infecting them with it? Is that so?
Interesting point of view!

What is the difficulty in creating a microbe, infection, biological threat to humans? Considering that, as you say, "there are enough competent microbiologists worldwide now."

+ of course all this can be done (detecting the microbe, isolating the person) if there is such a task, but today's Russian state, carrying out genocide of its "own" people, why would it do that? (perhaps for appearance's sake, nothing more)

for example, these sources say that the destruction of Africa by AIDS continues:
More than 2.5 million AIDS patients die annually in Africa alone:
http://samo-iscelenie.org.ua/index.php/aids-menu
http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2002/077/analit05.php
and many more can be found; of course, contradicting sources can also be found, but the task is not to prove who is right or wrong in this matter, the task is to understand how everything really is.

Wicc

Control through the media is definitely very strong. And that's exactly where I see the main danger; the technique of conducting information wars is currently experiencing rapid growth, attack and defense methods are improving before our eyes, roughly like tanks and planes in the 30s/40s.

well that proves it, albeit indirectly, that they haven't shut down anything, why would they give up their plans? if in their hands is the Federal Reserve System (an LLC with a share capital of 200 million dollars) printing hundreds of trillions of dollars and the army: USA, European Union, Japan???
Wicc

People who express thoughts like yours are victims of this very information war. In about 20 years, when the concept of hygiene of consciousness reaches the broad masses, the public will only wonder how stupid the previous generation was.

and what should this "hygiene"—purity of consciousness—consist of in your view?

A person possessing a pure consciousness will not laugh at the ignorance taking various forms of another person; on the contrary, he will empathize with him.

This entire information system (media), in all countries, is aimed at keeping people in ignorance. Their goal is that neither you nor I ever find out about these cannibalistic projects, about Committee 300 (the richest clans in the world) and other crimes.

In my opinion, the victim of this information war is the one who thinks: "everything is fine, the state cares for us, their goal is my well-being, everything they don't say is true, we bring democracy to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, and they are such ungrateful pigs to shoot down our planes peacefully bombing their cities, that the population of Russia is growing, that Vovochka, Medvedev, Anishchenko, etc., are our benefactors, etc.".

Wicc

Firstly, I meant the earnings of local vaccine manufacturers.

Secondly, they can print as many dollars as they want only in theory; in practice, there are limitations, both procedural and common sense. Therefore, if there is an opportunity to suck out several billion greenbacks the traditional way, they don't refuse it.

Essentially, a crisis is the clogging of economic capillaries with all sorts of slag and, consequently, the need for constant large-scale emissions that threaten to overturn the entire financial pyramid. The demiurges get little joy from these emissions, just a headache.

firstly, local vaccine manufacturers are simply used to achieve their goals (to distribute vaccines that lead to infertility, for example. Under the flag of peaceful, kind, eternal, of course), yes, these manufacturers will "earn," but those who use them will earn nothing from it; on the contrary, they pay them, and why would they need to earn from someone or something if they have the printing press and the army in their hands???

Yes, they use people and situations to exchange Dollars—"debt obligations of their federal reserve system"—for property, land, loyalty of people they need, etc.

The American dollar is not American money; it is a debt obligation of the federal reserve system, merely printed on US territory; the USA is now almost the only country that does not have its own currency. Kennedy tried to break away from this federal reserve system and start printing

secondly, they couldn't care less about all procedural, common sense, or any other limitations; they've already done it by printing 100 times more dollars worldwide than goods that can be bought with them.

Official US debt for 2010 is 14.5 trillion dollars; no single country in the world has such a debt.

thirdly, all crises were artificially organized—by Committee 300 (the richest clans in the world), and not as a result of violating economic laws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcGOtlijr6Y&feature=related - on the dollar and crises
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLLCmLB5wLM&feature=related

of course, these people might be wrong, but what they say, in my view, looks very much like the truth, + they are not the only sources asserting this.

Wicc

If such a goal existed, it would have been easily realized in the 90s, when Russia was in a deep knockdown. But since it wasn't realized, and instead, billions in humanitarian aid were poured in, nukes were left :eek: (aren't they idiots :confused:), it means the goals are different.

Now Russia is in an even deeper economic (produces nothing, only consumes), food (agriculture destroyed, 80% of food is imported), industrial (all factories destroyed), social (people outside Moscow and St. Petersburg mostly live in poverty), defense (army destroyed, in 2013 it is planned to leave 500k regular army instead of 8 million in 1989) and so on knockdown than it was then.

And how much of those tranches ("American" bucks) did the people receive?
People survived then and survive now not thanks to this "humanitarian aid," but despite it.

Why do you think they didn't realize it? implementation is in process; there are still (89 million) of us, which is a lot for servicing the resource extraction industry and the Siberian railway.

+ Do you think reducing the population of Russia by 50 million people over 20 years is small?
Wicc

Alas, you are wrong here, and quite significantly.

I don't know how it actually stands myself, but I'm sure my interpretation is much closer to the truth than yours. I won't tell it yet; first try to digest the simpler material higher up in the text.

during 12 years of Putin's rule, only the resource extraction industry hasn't been destroyed; all others are completely destroyed,

take for example plants like Sibtyazhmash, Sibstal (where my father worked for 10 years)—which had no analog and has none in the world, producing more than 200 types of steel for military and space industries—cut up for scrap, premises rented out as offices. Russia now produces nothing, only consumes.

I wonder what your confidence is based on?
Tell me, I want to hear your opinion, your understanding of this issue.

Are Putin and Medvedev our friends? Why then does the people not receive a drop of oil-dollars. In Kuwait, in the United Arab Emirates, for example, people receive a percentage from the sale of natural resources. In the UAE, every newborn receives 10 thousand dollars in a bank account immediately. It was also the case in Libya, for example; Gaddafi paid every resident of his country a percentage from oil sales. Profits from oil-dollars are no less than in the UAE, but why then do the people in Russia not receive a kopek from the sale of natural resources, if our government cares so much about us?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9EILCXcq1k&feature=related - General Petrov, who was recently killed, on Putin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pN8L7SfwSU&feature=related - as evidence of his death, + he, like Zhdanov, conducted anti-alcohol propaganda. (I disagree with much of what he says, but overall he speaks to the essence)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIrrg30Jk0o&feature=related - on Putin and the consequences of his rule

Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev - David Aaronovich Mendel - if he is so good, our benefactor, then why does he hide his real name and national identity??

And as for Putin, on TV, with insane probability, they show us a completely different person, and not just one:


the same was done with Yeltsin:


Putin: Russia is not for Russians - a video, in my view, about healthy nationalism, by no means about Nazism

Wicc

Getting tired of commenting, maybe I'll continue later. Or maybe I won't; after all, further down the text you mostly repeat the first half.

further down the text there is a lot of specifics, for example: in the school where my mother works now, they started introducing the vaccine against cervical cancer, which all girls must undergo mandatorily.

If you think this is all complete nonsense, well, give your child and let her get this vaccine.
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Wicc

Personally for myself - undoubtedly.
Every outside opinion is checked for adequacy, after which it either becomes mine, is discarded as crap, or put on the back burner (if its adequacy is unclear).

but isn't that adequacy (correspondence to reality) being checked based on your own opinion and perceptions (which we identify ourselves with)? In other words, you take your own opinion as the benchmark, the sample; but are you certain that your own perceptions of this matter correspond 100% to reality?

Isn't it logical to assume that in any field there are people far more knowledgeable than us? And among them are those friendly toward us? That is, those who will not deliberately mislead us?

So you inherently place your own opinion above, better, and more correct than someone else's?
Proud (Latin - gordius) - literally translates as - stupid.
Wicc

Some might, some might not.

The opinion that you express is stimulated for distribution precisely by those very organizations you describe. You define them yourself as unfriendly; the first step is taken, now it remains to understand that having such an opinion in your consciousness is beneficial to them, and then to see how they lobby it in the mass consciousness.

damn)
I didn't mean those organizations, not those people (I define those people as unfriendly, everything is correct), when I spoke about the fact that in every field, on every issue, there are far more qualified people. And isn't it logical to assume that by virtue of their greater qualification in this field and friendly attitude, their opinion is more correct than my own, even if I am absolutely certain of mine?

On the contrary, it is beneficial for these organizations that as little as possible be said or known about them and their cannibalistic plans. So why would they themselves stimulate someone to spread what they want to hide by all means necessary? Ignorant people are easier to manage and lead toward the "cliff."

But lately, these organizations—the "Committee of 300" (the wealthiest clans in the world)—couldn't care less whether someone speaks of their cannibalistic plans or not, because they believe that nothing and no one can stop the realization of their intentions.

If you or I had received such power, our minds would have snapped in a similar way. Not for nothing do they say: if you want to know what a person is really like, give them power.

It is precisely not beneficial for them that people be informed and aware of them and their plans; they want to remain in the shadows as much as possible.
So why would they stimulate something that is not beneficial to them? Especially among the masses?

Wicc

The opinion of a father and mother is definitely not inherently unfriendly, but it should be checked for adequacy relative to oneself and the objective situation. And the older you get, the more you must check.

Well, and on what basis do you determine the adequacy of an alternative point of view that does not correspond to your own, which I, you, or we consider inherently correct only because it is ours (because we identify ourselves with it, or it with ourselves), due to the fact that we love ourselves a priori?
Wicc

Well naturally, my opinion is based on something; it would be strange to deny the wisdom accumulated by humanity. But that doesn't make it any less mine.

But what if my opinion is based not on accumulated wisdom, but on a mistaken perception? And since I have accepted this mistaken opinion as my own, I begin to defend it, consider it the most correct (because I am proud, therefore I consider myself the smartest, therefore I also consider the point of view I adopted to be the most correct), and I begin to consider the person who tells me I am wrong as an enemy? Because if their opinion is correct, then mine is incorrect, meaning I was wrong, meaning I'm not the smartest, meaning they are insulting me.

In my view, conflicts, senseless arguments, etc., arise precisely because a person puts their own opinion at the center of everything.
Wicc

A very superficial judgment. Like any general phenomenon, pride has both pros and cons.

Although I don't quite understand what pride has to do with this; imho some other word should have been used, but that's not the point.

Everything is correct; it is very difficult to discern any negative quality in oneself. "We do not see the beams in our own eyes, but we notice a speck in another's."

Please name even one plus of pride?
Pride means: I am Chapay, and who are you? And you can't treat me like that anymore! What are the pros of such a position?

And what word is better to use for a person who puts their own opinion at the center of everything?

Isn't it logical, when discussing chess for example, to rely on the opinion of someone qualified in this field?

I am also undoubtedly very proud; sometimes I see this in myself, sometimes I don't.
Wicc

This is a commendable desire; the issues under discussion are quite relevant.

To be honest, it's interesting talking to you too :)
Your argumentation is quite detailed; one can understand why you think this way or that.
Wicc

No, no, "proving" is not the goal... rather to knock someone down a peg + stop the spread of the contagion. You simply relayed several propaganda theses, both in content and form, which is why I got riled up and launched a counter-wave.

But where your own text appears—not chanting slogans, but some reflections and reasonings—I have no particular negativity toward that. I liked the Eastern story.

Fine), but why did it rile you up? Because it doesn't correspond to your understanding of things? And therefore threatens the inherent correctness of my own understanding, my rationality?

Like you, I try to understand and analyze various spheres of our lives based on the same common sense; naturally, I can easily be mistaken (due to the imperfection of senses and organs of perception), which is why I believe it is necessary to turn to people more qualified in the field under consideration.

If we are talking about chess, isn't it logical to turn to Anand, Kasparov, Karpov, etc., and put their opinion at the center? And then consider one's own opinion in light of theirs, not vice versa?

Even one slogan that I chanted? Did I call for anything negative?

The only way to fight this total deception, these cannibals of the 20th-21st centuries, is not to be in ignorance regarding what is happening around us! To try to be human, not to live only for sleep, sex, food, and defense.

And since you liked the story ), there is one Eastern wisdom:

"if something in another person irritates me, then that same negative quality which makes them irritate me also exists within me; otherwise it wouldn't rile me up or irritate me."
Wicc

References to some closed info in such discussions are not very correct. If it is to be presented, it should be in the form of "rumor has it that...", and not as a truth.

Why is it incorrect?

In my view, the secrecy of any information, the unwillingness of state structures to publicize it only increases its authority!

But it's not even that closed; it's just not publicized: by googling well, one can stumble upon a ZAGS report—the place where information about births and deaths is recorded—according to which there are already 89 million of us, instead of the official 142 according to census data (which in my view is no more than a spectacle).

The same is claimed by Herman Sterligov, for example; I have more reasons to believe him than state media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2yYhhZYaDg - Sterligov on population size and agricultural development strategies.
Wicc

Your texts press on emotions, on the subconscious. That is how agitation is conducted. I try to press on logic, on the analysis of the situation and the development of a holistic vision.

I am trying to appeal to facts; sorry if I caused you any distress.

But what am I agitating for? To not be in ignorance? So as not to be "Ivans who remember no kinship"?

Understanding the same plight of the situation is not a reason for despondency ("dropping one's hands, feet :)") etc.

If someone tells me there is a hole in our boat, are they pressing my emotions? Is that a reason to give up? Isn't it a reason to stop the leak?
-====and in this case "stopping the leak" means not being in ignorance===-

You're great; your logic is reasoned and your holistic vision is quite attractive—but I cannot agree with much of it, sorry.

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In the Bhavishya Purana: there is a story, a prediction about the mission of Lord Jesus Christ 2 thousand years before his appearance:

Once one of the last emperors of all the earth, Maharaja (maha - great, raja - king) Miti, through mantra meditation rose to the 2nd level of the Himalayas. (Now we know that the highest point in the world is Everest at about 9 kilometers; the average height of the subtle-material unmanifested level of the Himalayas is 16 thousand meters). There he met a sadhu (saint) in white robes; he asked, "Who are you, sadhu?" The Sadhu answered: "Isha putra ma vidi kumari garbhi sam bava": "I am the son of God born of a virgin, I have come to create a new religion for mlechhas (meat-eaters, for us) and stop their process of degradation, and you must know about this." Christ told him that he sought spiritual knowledge, and Miti pointed him toward Bharata-varsha, modern India. In many Hindu temples, evidence remains that Christ was there. To this day, a huge number of people worship the Mother of God and Christ there.

It is described that he knew what they would do to him; it is also described that he had Sidho-deho—a completely spiritual body that cannot be destroyed by any kind of weapon, but such was his mission, his duty: to show how to save the eternal soul and not the body, how to break out of the wheel of Samsara—the endless cycle of births and deaths—the "concept of resurrection." Which fully corresponds to the nirvana of Lord Buddha, the Vedic concept of the meaning of life.

Further it describes how Christ from age 13 to 30 traveled through modern India, how he studied under spiritual teachers, how caste Brahmins (priests) tried to kill him, how he was in Ilavrita-varsha (varsha - part of the earth), where there are rivers of kissel, honey, and milk, described specifically in Russian folk tales. Also, for example, in Russian tales there is a "thrice-ninth kingdom," a "thrice-tenth state"; Vedic cosmology asserts that these numbers indicate dimensions of time and space.

Vedic cosmology describes the structure of the cosmos and specifically Bhumi-loka (Earth).
According to this description, Earth consists of nine concentric circles separated by oceans; the island in the center is called Jambu-dwipa, which is also divided into 9 equal parts, one of which is Bharata-varsha, where we currently live. Further it describes how at age 30 he returned and preached his mission. Specifically, there are descriptions of how he told the scribes and Pharisees—that you are children of the devil.

In other Puranas, there is a description of the beginning of our era, Kali Yuga; it describes how a personality like Kali—described in the Bible as the tempting serpent, the devil—tells the sages who gathered to stop the arrival of the Age of Kali and its destructive influence that he has come by the command of time, that they must fulfill their duty while he fulfills his, and he says he will spread his destructive influence through "Adam's tribe."

And Hasidim are descendants of Adamy (Adam) and Avyevati (Eve) | (a - negation, dama - yog controlling his senses; avyevati - born by fire sacrifice, or vikambara - a living being devoid of bodily concept). It is described how the sages performed Ashvamedha-yagiya—the fire (mystical fire, a more subtle kind of fire in which a living being feels no pain) sacrifice of a horse, as a result of which if the mantras are pronounced correctly (rhythm, timbre, etc. are important), the soul—the living being itself residing in the body of the horse—receives a new, different coarse physical body: the body of a woman (this is one of the most complex sacrifices). But since degradation had already begun, they pronounced it incorrectly, and besides the woman, a fruit—an apple—rolled out of the fire, which absorbed all the sinful reactions of the people of that time and place; this same story in another form is described in the Bible.

Kali's task is to destroy culture; this is his mission (in this case, he is the executor of the karma of people who earned the opportunity to be born in the Age-Kali [the age of degradation, loss of knowledge, senseless enmity and arguments. It began approximately 5 thousand years ago [this is exactly when the main events described in the Bible begin to unfold]]), and since he acts through "Adam's tribe," whose descendants are the Hasidim—specifically the Hasidic-Freemason group—that is why they try by all means to destroy culture, and consequently its carriers: Slavs, Hindus, Veneds, Aryans, etc.

The serpent Kali, or Kalia—described in the Bible as the devil, Satan, and so on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCElkertCg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocmv00VS9NQ - Venedian Rus in pictures, artist Konstantin Vasilyev)

This information specifically answers the question of why the Hasidic-Freemason group acts so cruelly and treacherously, and why they need this at all.
I am by no means calling for any national hatred in any form; in this case, "these guys" are executors of our karma, which means that sometime in past lives, we ourselves acted similarly toward other people.

Moreover, revenge only breeds revenge, and is satisfied by nothing but forgiveness.
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ahaha :))))))))))
I didn't even read it. I should tell Vika, maybe she'll manage to read it and answer :D
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I suggest adding a badge under the avatar that says "I managed to read through the posts of ariputr and R55Max":smile44:
Убив один раз, становишься негодяем, тысячу раз - героем.
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hahahaha :))))))))))
I didn't even read it. I should tell Vika, maybe she'll manage to read it and answer :D


and you, Galina Sergeevna, don't need to :D you already know everything.
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I suggest adding a medal under the avatar that says "I managed to read the posts by ariputra and R55Max" :smile44:

I'll try to arrange this with Pete :D, but you'll have to read it aloud with expression, and attach an MP3 file :D
Дурман мирской любви сильнее яда кобры, он глупым может сделать мудреца и увести от цели благородной и дух и волю война храбреца.
"Неизвестная история человечества. Запрещенная археология (с иллюстрациями), Майкл Кремо, Ричард Томпсон,479с,1.46 Мб.
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You have some cool topics here in the third game.
Not like in Haven...
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You have some great ideas here, ariputra, man, with your tendency towards verbosity, you should be writing books.

Everything has already been written; there's no need to reinvent the wheel. :rolleyes:

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An incredibly interesting program on Ren-TV, which, as far as I know, never aired – about secret societies, in particular the Masonic order, about the death of Kennedy, who decided to fight against secret societies and nationalize a private enterprise called the "Federal Reserve System":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWy87wxXFfE - "Masons against humanity," 47 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85VnFvsxwNs&feature=related - Lukashenko on the "golden billion"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5SR46uLmFM&feature=related - Speech by Iranian President Ahmadinejad at the UN General Assembly
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"Неизвестная история человечества. Запрещенная археология (с иллюстрациями), Майкл Кремо, Ричард Томпсон,479с,1.46 Мб.
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