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Offline WhiteLizard
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As for me, let there be a chat. Instead of a "holy haven of debauchery," by the way, the most popular topic on HeroesWorld is Max. So that flooders don't ... (wanted to say "foul") the forum with their unreadable nonsense. A sort of online version of fluderation. And over time, pull the string in the toilet, flushing everything into oblivion. Naturally, for swearing, spam, etc., ban, punish, and so on. And the forum will be cleaner for it, free of all sorts of mafias, and flooders will have fun. That's my IMHO.

Cleaner of all sorts of mafias, lol? What else would you suggest, leave only the pure-blooded Aryan section of the third? I hasten to disappoint you a bit, but flooding is just as integral a part of the forum as unofficial communication in the army.
One way or another, it adds popularity to the forum: in the mafia section, for example, there are people who have never even played Heroes, because RPGs interest them more. And there's nothing you can do about it; it's just a sign of a large multi-topic forum's development.

By the way, regarding topicality, I'm for a chat with sections for subforums. That way, Heroes players will have the opportunity to effectively discuss live streams, and flooders can flood about their own stuff and maybe organize mafias in the chat. Well, of course, we shouldn't forget about the General section. As for ranks, I'm also "for" it.

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For example, in the Mafia section, there are people who have never played Heroes, because they are more interested in RPGs.
Considering that the portal is still focused on Heroes, this isn't necessarily a plus.
This way, Heroes players will have the opportunity to effectively discuss online streams.
All streams, except those that go through Mikogo, already have a chat. I understand that for Mikogo streams of Heroes III, they have a voice chat. It doesn't seem like the cleanest place, judging by the descriptions in this thread, but that's their problem.
Streams of Heroes IV are discussed in ICQ, and Heroes V is streamed through Mikogo?
And the trolls already have an entire section, where else would they go?


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Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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It’s a pity that a certain group of people constantly causes discomfort, pricks like a cactus, but still keeps reaching out to lick the king’s boots. All sorts of “communication problems” are not a spontaneous phenomenon, like a hurricane or slush, but a consequence of the activity of the actors themselves. I am not at all surprised to see such statements from the regulars of the third game, because it is enough to go to their section to see that the corresponding atmosphere overwhelms you. Who lost to whom, who called whom a cheater and a noob, who considered their very important opinion to be more true than the others, who wrote a walkthrough and earned three and a half dollars, for which they received someone’s contempt. Of course, different reservations should be made for such different groups of active users, because otherwise all important communication will take place in the corresponding topics or conferences, and the only “main” chat will be a place for posting jokes, “hiiiii))))” and other listed garbage.
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Considering that this is a Heroes of Might and Magic forum, I don't think it's a plus.
Maybe we should just ban them all.
But the spammers already have a whole section, where else would they go?
Well, I don't know, it seems to me that all these external chats started appearing because of the lack of a centralized forum, although everyone will have their own arguments in favor of convenience, I have no doubt.

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Are you suggesting we get rid of all these "mafias," lol? What else do you suggest, leaving only a purely "Aryan" section for the third game?

Why only the third game? - Just Heroes
WhiteLizard

I'm going to slightly disappoint you.

Don't rush.
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Maybe we should ban them all.

Let's do it :D
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
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Maybe we should just ban them all.
What's the connection here? Don't confuse apples and oranges. There's nothing inherently bad about it. But calling it an absolute advantage for the Dungeon faction isn't quite right.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Wow, they created some vague and unnecessary stuff out of nothing. If we're talking about it, it would actually make sense to create several rooms so that everyone is happy and no one bothers anyone. Although in the previous chat, only certain people were present, while others would occasionally drop in for a few words and then leave. However, this is a characteristic of all chats – over time, a certain group of people starts using them, while others stop and hang out on the forum. By the way, I remember that during the chat era, the activity in the off-topic section was somewhat lower.
А, вот почему.

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Indeed, wasn't the forum itself created as a replacement for the chat? Although, I'm not sure everyone will want to leave their favorite topic.
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In short, let's ditch the chat; it will only lead to arguments.
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Although in the past, only certain individuals frequented the chat, while others would occasionally drop in for a few words and then leave. However, this is a characteristic of all chats – over time, a certain group of people tends to settle in, while others abandon it and stick to the forum.
This is precisely what is bad. I would call it an organized crime group! Do you think why people abandon it? Because they don't belong there, and they don't belong there not because they are not worthy, but because of the vulgar language that flows from it (it's not for cultured people). God forbid you show any weakness in the chat – you will receive a lot of negativity from the established group of chatters, and few people want to receive that.

And I want to note that for those individuals who will not be talkative in the chat but will read it (and this will undoubtedly happen, as interest takes over), it will be unpleasant to read the disputes being discussed there.

In short, a chat is a permission to flood the entire forum, unless it is extremely well-moderated and the punishments are extremely severe.

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In short, let's ditch the chat; there will be arguments.
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That's precisely the problem. I would call it an organized criminal group! Do you think they get banned for a reason? Because they don't belong there, and they don't belong there not because they are unworthy, but because of the vulgar language used there (it's not for cultured people). God forbid you show any weakness in the chat – you'll get a lot of negativity from the established group of chatters, and few people want to deal with that.
Lol. There wasn't enough room for people, huh? You go into the chat, and they immediately start insulting you, beating you with clubs, right? Why invent things and compare it to some kind of garbage dump? It gives the impression that people from the Heroes 3 section are afraid to be in the same chat as people from the off-topic section, as if the latter are some kind of thugs, although such... vampires are more often found in the Heroes sections, including the Heroes 3 section.
And I want to note that those people who will not be talkative in the chat but will read it (and they definitely will, as interest takes over) will find it unpleasant to read the arguments being discussed there.
No one is forcing anyone to read. It's also impossible to forbid people from communicating on free topics and impose any restrictions (except for the rules that already exist).

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Didn't the forum itself start as a replacement for the chat, right?
As far as I remember, not exactly, but it definitely wouldn't have grown so much if it were just a chat.
UPD: They said it was indeed a replacement for the chat. I confused it with attempts to create a general discussion thread alongside a live chat, which was always in a semi-dead state.
In short, the chat is permission to flood the entire forum.
I didn't understand this phrase at all.
А, вот почему.

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DO NOT TOUCH, PLEASE!
Что такое осень - это небо
Плачущее небо под ногами
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Lynx, don't get worked up, we won't let anyone mess with our Mafia, that's for sure.
А, вот почему.

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As far as I remember, not quite, but it definitely wouldn't have grown so much if it were just a regular chat.

Instead of the usual chat, a forum thread was created for chatting, but then it was closed, another one appeared, and so on, until finally, the SOR was created. So, it can be considered a replacement for the chat.

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