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Damn!!! Can someone explain to me who goes where???? 1 and 2 go to the upper bracket, and 3 to 7 go to the lower bracket?
3 to 7 are eliminated from the tournament, and 1 and 2 go to the upper bracket, but before, it was A1-B2, B1-A2, etc., forming pairs, which influenced where you started. Now, Tanya says that it doesn't matter anymore. Will it randomly assign us further down the bracket, or, as I wrote above, will the ones who took 1st place play against the 2nd from other groups?
Damn!!! Do they move from 3rd to 7th place in the standings?
They are eliminated from the tournament.
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Alright, gentlemen, WTF do I want to ask you?
For a very long time, I wondered why there were no streams from Saika, until I saw a link to this thread on the forum.
I read it, scrolled through, and was very surprised. I request that Scorpion be REMOVED from judging in this tournament and ALL subsequent ones, due to violation of the rules and tournament regulations. The arbitrary removal of a player from the tournament bracket, which contradicts the rules, must not go unpunished. On page 1 of the rules, it is clearly written that if a player is admitted, they play. If an error was made in the decision to admit a high-level player to a beginners' tournament, rules for their removal should be described. No such rules exist. In such cases, judges should follow the rules, shouldn't they? A man's word is his bond. But, as everyone knows, that doesn't apply to Scorpion.
So, the judge broke the rules, and everything was swept under the rug. Is this NORMAL on your ХВ?
Added 2 minutes later I am quoting the rules from page one because, knowing female cunning, I assume that another point will "unexpectedly" appear in the rules soon regarding the case with Kilgor. Scorpiona
tournament "Новичок-2012. Winter"[/SIZE]
Greetings to all Lovers of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, future participants, and fans of the traditional "Новичок" tournament. I hope the new season will again please us with good games and new discovery players:smile02:
This is our traditional, already sixth in a row, tournament for Новичок. We do not have a precise and strict definition of who a "новичок" is. This tournament is for those - who only recently realized that you can play the favorite old game Heroes over the internet, - who only recently found out that they aren't the only one who can easily beat computers and that it's not so simple with a real person, - who recently started playing with more than one or two heroes and building chains...
We do not invite fathers and grandfathers, we don't want to see clones, and besides, would a medal obtained in such a dubious way have any value for a strong player?
The main goal of the tournament is to get to know each other and gain experience in communication and gaming.
Participant Requirements 1. A Новичок is considered a player registered on our forum or another gaming resource for no more than one year. 2. Players who have longer playing experience but wish to play in the tournament will be considered on an individual basis. 3. Already sufficiently strong players, who have shown good results in any tournament, are not allowed to participate. 4. A tournament participant must have at least one game in the season according to HeroesWorld rules (can be played after registration). This is necessary to ensure that you can technically play online and have an understanding of World's rules. In separate cases, this criterion may be waived (if the player is known on other gaming resources and plays successfully there) 5. Players registered on the forum after the opening of the "Новичок-2012. Winter" tournament undertake to play a test game with an authorized person to determine their skill level. 6. Organizers have the right to refuse registration to anyone if they believe there are valid reasons, without public explanation of the reasons.
Applications are left in this thread. In the application, specify: 1. ICQ number for contact; 2. convenient time for playing; 3. when the first online game was first played; 4. if the participant came from another gaming resource, they must write where from and their nickname on that resource.
Organizational Issues 1. The tournament is official and regular. 2. Tournament organizers, leads, and judges - Scorpiona (ICQ 469326983), Pit for LM (ICQ 471401475), Gomunguls (ICQ 499978341), GoD (ICQ 291656338). 3. The tournament is based on the Rules for organization, conduct, and participation in HOMM3 online tournaments, Rules for online games in Heroes III and the seasonal rating tournament. 4. For each game played, participants must submit a detailed report and confirmation (also detailed) in this thread. Only in this case is the game counted. 5. All tournament games go into the seasonal rating. Reports and confirmations are written in this thread and will be copied by me to the topic "Reports of online games and their confirmations. Season Winter-2011-12". That is, duplicating reports in the season thread is NOT necessary. 6. It is necessary to make and save daily saves of all games until the end of the tournament. 7. Based on the results of the tournament, a "Winner of Tournament Новичок-2012. Winter" medal will be awarded under the winner's avatar.
Tournament Regulations 1. Tournament dates: January-April 2012. Start January 9, 2012. 2. Traditionally, the tournament will take place in two stages - group and playoffs. 3. The draw and current results will be at the beginning of this thread (second-third post). I. Group stageis played on template 2SM4d(3). By mutual consent, a game can be played on any other. You play rounds in any order, depending on how you agree with groupmates. If there is an opportunity and desire - you can even play everything in a week and then wait for the results of others. The number of groups and places in a group will be determined upon completion of registration. Attention: technical results will be assigned for all games not played on time. The main criterion for advancing from the group is the number of points earned (1 point for a win, 0.5 for a draw, 0 for a loss). If several players earn the same number of points, additional indicators come into play (in order of priority): a) Berger Coefficient b) Head-to-head encounter c) Group completion time d) Place in seasonal rating How many players advance from the group will be determined after registration ends. II. Playoffswill proceed under the Full Double Elimination system. The system is similar to an Olympic one, but a player is eliminated after losing twice. Examples can be seen in the last two seasons At this stage, we will play by choosing templates via elimination from the list: 2sm4d(3), 8mm6a, Jebus Cross, Mini-Nostalgia, Panic
Rules 1. Game version. The tournament is held on game version СОД 3.2(4.0), by mutual consent WT. 2. The tournament is conducted according to the seasonal rules for template 2SM4d(3). 3. Disputed points, if any arise, please discuss them as much as possible outside the forum, i.e., first contact the organizer via ICQ. The judging decision is made based on seasonal rules, basic logic, and gaming ethics. In any non-standard situation, the organizer takes responsibility for making a fair decision. To resolve disputed situations, players provide daily saves and ICQ logs. 4. During the tournament, the rules and regulations will NOT change. All changes and additions will be made before January 9. 5.Templates At the playoff stage, the template selection is carried out by elimination from a list of 5 templates: 2sm4d3, jebus Cross, Panic, 8mm6a, mini nostalgia. The blue player starts crossing them off. /Example: Blue : 1. Panic Red : 2. 8mm6a Blue: 3. 2SM4d(3) Red: 4. Jebus cross This means we play on the mini nostalgia template.
Description of template 2SM4d(3) here. Rules for 2SM4d(3) completely coincide with the seasonal rules
Description of template 8mm6a here. Differences for 8mm6a: - Map settings: XL+U, 2 humans + 6 computers, difficulty 160%. - Restart due to slow roads. Taken at the request of at least one opponent immediately after map generation. - Allowed to move from respawn to respawn without breaking through shifted guards. - If a computer's castle has level 1, 6, or 7 upgrades in Conflux or level 4 upgrade in Necropolis, it is forbidden to upgrade your own troops of these levels and hire the upgraded version of creatures. If the Necromancer Amplifier is built, upgrading vampires is forbidden, and additional skeletons do not need to be dismissed. - Dimension Door can be used 2 times a day with expert air magic.
Description of template Jebus cross here. Differences for Jebus cross: - Standard map settings: size XL-U, two players, no water, monsters - strong, difficulty 160%, turn time limit – 8 minutes. - Restart at the request of a player whose only road leads to ГО. - Restart at the request of a player who lacks a road to the central treasure zone. - Restart due to slow roads. Taken at the request of at least one opponent immediately after map generation. - Using "Angel's Wings" and spells "Fly" and "Dimension Door" when moving from one zone to another is allowed only if the guard between them has been broken. - In case of bugged passages between zones, passing to a neighboring zone is possible only if ГО to the center has been broken from both zones. - In Necropolis castle, Galtran can be chosen as the starting hero.
Description of template Mini-Nostalgia here, and a detailed scheme here. Differences for Mini-Nostalgia: - Map settings: L+U for 8 players (i.e., with 6 computers). It is also possible to play as two people; then neutral castles will be in place of the computers. - To avoid double-builds, the choice of castles for computers is made by players alternately, one at a time. The blue player starts the selection. There should be no repetitions or matches with player castles. Before starting the game, the host assigns the chosen castles to the computers. - It is allowed to run to neighboring respawns past shifted guards (except ГО), as computers ignore shifted guards and furthermore, breaking through a passage to a computer is much easier than taking its castle from it.
Description of template Panic here. Differences for Panic: - Standard map settings: size L-U, humans - 2, computers - 0, no water, monsters - strong, difficulty 130% (rook).
Appendices
Topic Useful info: templates, maps, programs - all necessary information is collected here in one topic. It's best to familiarize yourself with this topic first.
Where to start - Heroes versions, how to install and configure Hamachi
Cranim - animation accelerator. Units in battle will move significantly faster, which will greatly reduce the turn waiting time. Download and place in the Data folder.
HMM3_Lighter_1_5 - a program for fast transfer of troops and artifacts between heroes by vbn Instructions attached.
Autosave counter_2.05 - a program that automatically makes daily saves, by Sir Four. Instructions attached.
I took 1 restart. And during the game we gave each other some autos.
Right away, a block of Lizardmen under the castle, guarding a scroll with Meteor Shower, but there is an external dwelling of Wyverns taken on the first day and Gnolls. I reveal half of my opponent's main, as it turned out he also took a scout over my main, so everyone was aware of what was happening. Very little money, almost none at all, but the external dwellings of Basilisks and Hydras camped on 113 demand the action to continue.
On 121, three castles and 5 heroes :) Loot is collected wherever possible, but I'm already starting to doubt the decision to play this setup.
I ran around, collected some gold, things seemed to start improving, and then I misclicked: I didn't give the army to Wystan and he successfully gets defeated in the pre-max Dragon Fly Hive with all the Wyverns. I was about to write GG, but I keep playing. I rebuy Wystan a day later.
On 126, I break through a Teleport and oh miracle!!! Right in front of me are 4 of my opponent's heroes and the main one in front of the Dragon Fly Hive with Wyverns and upgraded Nagas at the entrance to the treasure zone lit up by that same scout. I attack the scout hero, break down the stack of Gremlins and Mages. I can't reach anyone else - I stand in the Teleport. The opponent successfully throws his scout hero at me, takes the Dragon Fly Hive, and attacks. I lose that battle, taking Nagas and some Wyverns with me.
I rebuy at home and then a scout hero on a secondary finds a quest for a Speed Ring which I have. They give 10k gold, I'm as happy as a clam, I set Hydras. Meanwhile, I see the opponent taking Dragon Fly Hives and an external dwelling of Angels in the treasure zone.
I myself take a Dragon Fly Hive - minimal result :( , gather the army and am about to go on the offensive before the opponent gobbles up too much, because with my number of external dwellings, an exchange is beneficial in any case.
And then news of the forfeit arrives.
Thanks for the game. sOrcerror
Well well, gentlemen, WTF do I want to ask you?
For a very long time I wondered why there were no streams from Saika, until I saw a link to this thread on the forum.
... The boy said - the boy did it. So, the referee broke the rules, and everything was swept under the rug. Is this NORMAL on your HeroesWorld?
Added after 2 minutes I am quoting the rules from page one, because knowing feminine cunning, I suspect that soon another clause will "unexpectedly" appear in the rules, about the case with Kilgor.
The bait wasn't taken :smile52: You'd better clean up after yourself :smile17:
Took 1 restart. And in the process we each gave the other an auto.
Right away a block of Lizardmen under the Castle, guarding a scroll with Meteor Shower, but there is an external dwelling of Wyverns taken on the first day and Gnolls. I reveal half of the opponent's main, as it turned out he also took a lookout over my main, so everyone was aware of what was happening. Little money, almost none at all, but the external dwelling of Basiliks and Hydras burned on 113 requires continuing the action.
On 121 three Castles and 5 heroes :) Cash is gathered wherever possible, but I'm already starting to doubt the decision to play this layout.
Ran around, gathered some gold, things seemed to be starting to improve and then I misclicked: I didn't give the army to Wystan and he successfully gets himself killed in the pre-max Dragon Fly Hive with all the Wyverns. Was going to write "gg" but keep playing. I rebuy Wystan after a day.
On 126 I cast Town Portal and oh miracle!!! Right in front of me are 4 of the opponent's heroes and the main is in front of the Dragon Fly Hive with Wyverns and upgraded Nagas at the entrance to the treasure zone revealed by that same lookout. I attack a scout hero, take apart a stack of Gremlins and Mages. Can't reach anyone else - I stand in the Town Portal. The opponent successfully sacrifices a scout hero on me, takes the Dragon Fly Hive, and attacks. I lose this battle, taking the Nagas and a few Wyverns with me.
I rebuy at home and then a scout hero on a secondary finds a quest for a Speed artifact which I have. They give 10k cash, I'm as happy as a clam, set Hydras. Meanwhile I see the opponent taking Dragon Fly Hives and the external dwelling of Angels in the treasure zone.
I take the Dragon Fly Hive myself - minimum results :( , gather an army and am about to go on the attack before the opponent gets too fat, considering my number of external dwellings the trade-off is favorable in any case.
And then word comes of the loss.
Thanks for the game.
I confirm, I goofed, got killed on the Snipers, didn't think there would be so many, it would have been better if after his attack his main hero had run on just Wyverns to the opponent's Castle, I would have made it in time to attack on day 7, and watching the save there were only snakes, I would have taken his main.. thanks for the game, still lacking experience..
it would have been better if, after the attack, his hero had run on his own to the opponent's castle on day 7, he would have had time to attack, and I saw only snakes in the save, I would have taken his main hero... thanks for the game, I still have little experience.
It's not a given, the snakes are just snakes, especially when three towers are shooting at you, and I put the hydras on level 127. We can try if you want...
If you play, for example, with Vistan, does the archery skill affect the ballista and towers in the castle?
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Was it Scorpion's sole decision? There was a meeting, and a group of people made the decision. And personally, I don't approve of such harsh words, especially when not fully aware of everything. And is this extremely negative criticism specifically because the streamer stopped streaming? (Although it's far from certain that this event was the reason; the decision to suspend streams had been brewing for a while. And this break seems to have benefited the streamer in terms of gameplay; consider that as well.) So why is the judge being singled out as the ultimate culprit in this particular case, while in all other tournaments, flaws can also be found? Why aren't you looking for them there?.. People here are trying, working on something with enthusiasm, and many are making unwarranted negative comments without even trying to understand. By the way, why don't the most dissatisfied viewers try streaming themselves? (Let's estimate: suppose the Heroes 3 audience is 500 people. Let's say that 1/10 of them have the time and hardware to stream. Of that number, 1/5 have good communication skills – that results in at least 10 full-fledged Heroes streamers. This is a minimum; the actual number is much higher). So why do you only want to take, and not give back? And stop looking for scapegoats (the streamer is partly to blame, having set, in my opinion, such an absurd ultimatum).
P.S. I didn't want to offend anyone specifically; there are many such people. P.P.S. I am strongly against disqualifying a player during a tournament and still believe that the decision was wrong, although I can understand the judges.
From 3rd to 7th place, players leave the tournament, and 1st and 2nd place advance to the upper bracket, but previously, it was A1-B2, B1-A2, etc., forming pairs, which influenced where you started. Now, I see Tanya is saying that it doesn't matter. Will the next stage randomly assign us positions, or will the players who took 1st place play against the 2nd place players from other groups, as I mentioned above?
We'll clarify these details when we reach the playoffs.
