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Actually, I just saw the nickname of an old-timer from HeroesWorld, whom I remember from v-e-e-ery old and in a way kind times, and greeted them, and yet another conspiracy theory has already crystallized here.
I just thought you were good friends and helped each other. No conspiracy theories.
But in principle, it amused me how people lose touch with reality and how significant they consider themselves in the lives of others.
An interesting remark, but it was made completely without connection to the previous text.
By the way, Slonysh, I'm interested in your opinion, as a former moderator of the mafia section — are these insults, profanity, misrepresentations, and other expressions by Alex trolling, or something else?
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Siverfale
I just thought you were good friends and helped each other. No conspiracy theories.
Yes, I would gladly, but there were no precedents)
Siverfale
Interesting observation, but it's completely unrelated to the previous text.
By the way, Slonysh, I'm interested in your opinion as a former moderator of the mafia section - are Alex's insults, profanity, distortions, and other expressions trolling or something else?
No insults - I'm responding according to the sharpness of the others... Or do you all consider yourselves examples of high culture?) And yes, there is trolling)
WisTrit
It's very frightening and stressful, I'm just shrinking into a ball.
That's why I see that you, a furious democrat, are trembling)
WisTrit
Arguments:
1) Power is bad.
2) There is no freedom of speech.
3) The rabble triumphs, and everything acquired by successful people is taken away, hurray-hurray.
4)

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laws.
5) No development.
+ to all this, the fact that communism is a utopia, unattainable. NEVER AND NOWHERE. That's the deal. However, I think I've already said all this.
Is it good in China? Why are they leaving there?
1) Again, are you judging only by the repressions? Of course, power is not a piece of cake, but it hasn't fallen to the level of the 80s... The series of funerals was our biggest failure...
2) Looking at you, you just want to shut you up) You talk and talk, but what's the use of you?..
3) In what mythical country is this happening all the time?.. There haven't been such serious dekulakizations since Stalin...
4) The laws were normal - now the laws are asshole... So this is nonsense!
5) Should I list the achievements of the USSR for you?
And no one said that communism is a utopia - do you really need a utopia?
Overpopulation is the only problem in China, although it can be solved with repressions)
WisTrit
Well, at least I'll take Zhirinovsky's place, and at least I'll get some laughs. You'll just turn out to be bio-waste:):):):)
Time will tell, dear piece of nerves) You've exhausted yourself)
Slonysh
Gil and Alex don't even know about each other's existence, and I, of course, after reading the thread about the elections, immediately got worried and called Alex, whom I don't have in ICQ, Skype, VKontakte, or Facebook.
Don't pay attention to paranoids - they are very afraid for their sick nothing)
Slonysh
But in principle, it was funny how people lose touch with reality and how important they think they are in the lives of others.:)
I confess, I am sometimes guilty) Although...
Slonysh
And in general, Saturday will show who here is a defender of democracy not only in words. Personally, I haven't argued about politics on forums for many years and I'm not going to start.
What's happening on Saturday?
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I'm responding in accordance with the sharpness of the others...
Don't pay attention to the paranoids – they are very afraid for their sick nothing.
What sharp remarks did I make about you that you consider this a "match"?
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Siverfale
What harsh words did I say about you that you consider this a "match"?
I haven't resorted to personal attacks yet, but if you want to be among the true paranoids, go ahead. All the things Vis mentioned here are irrelevant... And why are you so concerned about who this is?
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All those listed by Vis are irrelevant here...
I was the one listing them, that's the point.
And why are you so eager to find out who it is?
Who, if not you, should understand the danger of uncontrolled freedom of speech! What if this "anonymous source" starts slandering anyone tomorrow? And in general, all this "anonymity" is somehow not very communist, don't you think?
...unless we're talking about anonymous denunciations of each other out of envy, of course.
4) The laws were normal back then - now the laws are awful... So, this is nonsense!
Solzhenitsyn
In the storage room, they started a conversation: someone criticized the tools, someone criticized the supplies, someone criticized the planning. Isaac didn't say a word, he was just writing out invoices with a chemical pencil. But it became known (and probably they orchestrated it), everyone pointed fingers at each other, saying who said what, and according to point 10, they all received ten years. Kagan also went through five interrogations, but no one could prove that he said a single word. If Article 58 had been narrower, they would have had to release Kagan. But the investigator knew his last resort - point 12 of the same article - failure to report. Kagan was given the same ten years for failure to report.
He
Gerasimovich is serving his second term; he has "Article 58, paragraph 1-A, through paragraph 19," that is, treason through intent.
He didn't commit treason, but he also didn't prove that he came to Leningrad in the first days of the war not to wait for the Germans.
These are just the examples I found by googling based on vague memories, without even trying to delve deeper into the issue.
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I only know that he is a weak player in Mafia – who cares about that anyway?
Oh, this is... oh my god! Gentlemen! Yes, exactly!
But in general, it was amusing how people lose touch with reality and how significant they think they are in the lives of others.
Yeah, really. What about all those cosmetic bloggers? :)

It's funny how much of a reaction a small, one-line suggestion caused.
YOU CAN GO NOW, LOL))))
That's why I see that you, a raving democrat, are so upset.
Lol, he sees. I'm telling you, he's a drug addict!
1) Are you judging only by the repressions again? Of course, power isn't easy, but it hasn't sunk to the level of the 80s... The series of funerals is our biggest failure...
Well, that's just great. Only by the repressions and idiotic laws, everything else is fine, right?
2) Looking at you makes me want to shut you up. You keep talking, but what good are you?...
Well, how about it, LOL)))) WHAT?))) I'm fun (at the moment), you're garbage, conclusion?
3) In what mythical country do they do this all the time?... There haven't been such serious dekulakizations since Stalin...
SERIOUS DEKULAKIZATIONS, THERE WERE ONLY NON-SERIOUS DEKULAKIZATIONS AND NON-SERIOUS REPRESSIONS.
And it's funny, isn't it, that "after Stalin" there were only remnants left? Never mind, I know Sanya will keep going on.
4) The laws were normal - now the laws are stupid... So that's nonsense!
What don't you like about the current laws? Were you not allowed to drink beer in the parks?
5) Should I list the achievements of the USSR?
You're delusional. What achievements of the USSR? Drug addict Drug addict, now there are no achievements? They are building hospitals and more or less roads, not tanks and factories. People are given apartments, not taken away. And in general, do you know that the USSR is not your beloved Russia? To gather the achievements of a whole bunch of countries and say "LOOK LOOK I DID IT" - that's really cool, of course.
And I've said it before, but I can say it again, since you've already forgotten everything from last time. Achievements achieved through blood are not needed by anyone. GTFO. That's the deal.
Time will tell, dear little piece of nerves) You've exhausted yourself.
Time will tell:):):):)
Maybe for you, but you were thoroughly defeated last time.

And since it's Slonysh, then probably... who? Sasha was talking nonsense?
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1) Are you judging everything based on repressions again? Of course, power isn't easy, but it didn't sink to the level of the 80s... The series of funerals was our biggest failure.
Stalin was a rare idiot. He wasn't a German spy, he was actually on the side of the Soviet Union during the war, but he did more to cause our defeat than any German, except perhaps Hitler. Yes, the world hadn't seen such a "Generalissimo" before Stalin. Luckily, they later appointed Zhukov as commander-in-chief, otherwise, Comrade Stalin would have definitely finished us off.
Although, I like Khrushchev. He exposed the cult of personality, initiated a major breakthrough in science and space exploration, and didn't give the Americans an easy time. But, perhaps, he is the only Soviet politician that I like, and even your party didn't take to him very well.
4) The laws were normal back then - now the laws are awful... So, this is nonsense!
Obviously, Lord is talking about Article 58.
In general, you might think that I share Lord's opinion, but that's not the case. Although democracy is better than the futile attempts to build communism, it's still not great. Freedom – everyone loves this concept, everyone is so proud of it, they rejoice in the fact that they are free. But now, in our country, freedom is only an illusion, and I'm not just talking about election fraud, not even so much about it. I'm talking about the fact that after the difficult socialist times, people seem to have gone crazy with their freedom and decided that if there is freedom, then everything is allowed. People have started to lead a drastically wrong lifestyle, and television and the internet only exacerbate the situation (although our site stands out favorably, I would say). And it's not even that that's the scariest thing, because people have always been drawn to bad things. The scary thing is that bad has become the norm, sometimes even something good. This drastically reduces any hope of improvement. And if people love to get everything from life, to live for themselves, and not for others or for the country, then why be surprised that those who are... well, you understand, are in power.
Therefore, Lord's position regarding kilometer-long queues and freedom is not entirely justified. This could be tolerated if people weren't being killed and there was a real opportunity to build communism. But the latter is impossible: it's too utopian, and nothing good can come from revolutionaries who are also regicides.
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Well, where are the debaters? I'm just getting into it.
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Siverfale
I was the one listing them, that's the point.
Fine—but why the guessing game?)
Siverfale
Who if not you should understand the danger of unchecked freedom of speech! What if this "anonymous source" starts slandering whoever they want tomorrow? And in general, all this "anonymity" is somehow not very communist, don't you think?
...unless we count anonymous denunciations of one another out of envy, of course.
And I'm granting the source full freedom of speech—purely democratically, in accordance with your own ideas. As for whether it's slander or not—who cares, if everyone looks after themselves and does what they think is necessary, and others can look after themselves—everything's according to the rules)
Siverfale
These are only the examples I googled based on vague memories, without trying to delve even slightly into the matter.
I agree that during the repressions everything was quite crude, but did the USSR not exist after Stalin or something? Or is it convenient for you to remember only specific dates, by which we judge the entire period?.. That's somehow irrational...
WisTrit
Lol, he "sees." I'm telling you, he's a junkie!
You against it?) Is it not my business to smoke what I smoke)
WisTrit
Well, this is just a blast. Only the repressions and idiotic laws, otherwise everything is fine, isn't it?
There was a lot that was debatable, a lot that was wrong, a lot that was idiotic, but were there no positive results?.. Of course not, right Wis, of course we're just a bleak banana republic now?..
WisTrit
So, LULZ)))) WHAT?))) I'm funny (at the moment), you're trash, conclusion?
It's funny to give you a diagnosis yourself) Does anyone know a word to describe WisTrit?)
WisTrit
SERIOUS DEKULAKIZATION DIDN'T HAPPEN, THERE WERE ONLY NON-SERIOUS DEKULAKIZATIONS AND NON-SERIOUS REPRESSIONS.
Actually, it's funny, does it matter that "after Stalin" there were only scraps left? It doesn't matter, I know, Sanka will keep on rambling.
I didn't notice that people were starving much in the 60s...
WisTrit
What exactly don't you like about the current laws? Didn't they let you drink beer in kindergarten?
Mmmm... What does booze have to do with it, if I lead a healthy lifestyle and don't consume anything containing alcohol?.. It's clear who's actually "gone soft" here)
WisTrit
You're totally toasted. What USSR achievements? Junkie Narcomanovich, so like there are no achievements now? They're building hospitals and halfway decent roads instead of tank factories. People are given apartments instead of having them taken away. And in general, are you aware that the USSR isn't your beloved Rashka? To collect the achievements of a whole bunch of countries and say "LOOK LOOK I SLEPT I SLEPT" is very cool, of course.
And I've said it already, but I can say it once more, since you've already managed to forget everything since last time. Nobody needs achievements built on blood. GTFO. That's how it is.
Well, if you want to sleep soundly and eat well—go to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or Switzerland—they don't mess with the politics of other countries and they don't crank out their own little tanks—everything is quiet and peaceful.
You're citing such obvious things that next you'll say that all the merits of the USSR might belong separately to Ukraine, or Belarus, or Kazakhstan—everyone put in effort and got what exists now... or at least what existed by the end of the 80s—one of the two most powerful world superpowers.
Nobody needs achievements built on blood? Thanks, get the hell out of here, because you're shaming all the veterans...
WisTrit
For you it might be exhausted, you got bent over pretty hard last time.
Remind me of that moment, because I don't remember)
WisTrit
And since it's Slonysh, then, probably... who? Did Sashka blab it?
Who?..
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Stalin is a rare idiot. He wasn't exactly a German spy and was pretty much on the Union's side during the war, but he did more to make us lose than any German, except perhaps Hitler. Yes, the world had never known such a "generalissimo" before Stalin. Good thing Zhukov was later appointed Commander-in-Chief, or Comrade Stalin would have certainly finished us off.
Though I do like Khrushchev. He exposed the cult of personality, initiated a major breakthrough in science and space exploration, and didn't give the States any leeway. But he's probably the only Soviet politician I like, and even your party disliked him a lot.
If Stalin is an idiot, then perhaps the whole country deserved him, having lived with an idiot and suffered from an idiot, while England and France calmly fed Czechoslovakia to Germany, turned a blind eye to Poland, and kept acting as if everything was fine, until Germany decided to have its way with them too... And it did...
Things are also not so clear-cut with Zhukov — he certainly won, but that can also be explained by high losses. Rokossovsky, a Pole, commanded the Belorussian operation — losses were 3 times lower than the Germans', which was actually a record. Stern, who was unfortunately repressed in '41, also noted that Zhukov simply filled gaps with meat during the events at Khalkhin Gol...
Ment
Obviously, Lordy is referring to Article 58.
Generally, one might think I share Lordy's opinion, but that's not the case. Although democracy is better than futile attempts to build communism, it's still no picnic. Freedom — everyone loves this concept, everyone is so proud of it, rejoicing that they are free. But now in our country, freedom is only illusory, and I'm not just talking about election fraud, not even so much about that. I'm talking about the fact that after the harsh socialist times, people seem to have gone crazy with their freedom and decided that since there's freedom, everything is permitted. People have sharply adopted an unhealthy lifestyle, television and the internet only make things worse (though our site stands out favorably, I'd say). And even that's not the worst part, because man has always been drawn to the bad. What's scary is that the bad has become the norm, sometimes even seen as good. This drastically reduces any hope for improvement. And if people love to get everything from life, live for themselves and not for others or for the country, then why be surprised that those in power are, hmm... You get it.
So Lordy's position on mile-long queues and freedom is not entirely justified. This could be tolerated if people weren't being killed and there was truly a chance to build communism. But that last part is impossible: too utopian, and nothing worthwhile can come from regicide revolutionaries by definition anyway.
I'm afraid even HeroesWorld doesn't stand out. If it did, these stupid arguments wouldn't arise.
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I'm afraid even HeroesWorld isn't standing out. If it were, these stupid arguments wouldn't arise.
Funny fact - they weren't there until you showed up. This isn't even an attempt at trolling; check the thread if you don't believe me.

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Well okay - but why did you have to guess?)
Because I thought I would get it right. By the way, I still haven't seen either an apology or an explanation for why I deserved the insult (anticipating the question "which one?" - see the previous post).
with your own beliefs
So, do your own beliefs mean nothing to you?
Does anyone know a word for what you'd call Wistrit?)
Dracocat.
Well, if you want to sleep soundly and eat well - go to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or Switzerland - they don't meddle in other countries' politics and don't churn out their own little tanks - everything is quiet and peaceful.
So, if a person wants their country to stop tormenting its own citizens for the sake of some "higher" goals - they should just leave?
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Siverfale
Fun fact – they didn't exist until you showed up. This isn't even an attempt at trolling; check the thread if you don't believe me.
You're easily baited into heated discussions because, no matter how hard most people try to convince me that I'm stubborn, you're not much better yourselves, and perhaps even more rigid...
Siverfale
Because I thought I'd guessed correctly. By the way, I still haven't seen any apologies or explanations for what I deserved the insult for (anticipating the question "what?" - see the previous post).
I apologize... Seriously, I didn't mean to accuse you so strongly and without reason... You're just caught up in some kind of collective mindset, like the masses, and I don't have enough hands and keyboards to deal with everyone.
Siverfale
So, your own views mean nothing to you?
Why should I prove anything to you if your own views mean nothing to you, if you talk about "freedom of speech" and then immediately say, "what kind of nonsense is being directed at me?!"
Siverfale
Dragon's Breath.
Nah – it's not impressive...
Siverfale
So, if a person wants their country to stop tormenting its citizens for some "higher" goals, they should leave?
So, if a person wants to be completely independent, listen only to themselves, and live only for themselves, then they shouldn't even start a family... And in our country, "if you want to live, you have to learn to adapt"... In the end, as long as we don't become a banana republic, there will always be dissatisfied people in the country... And whether it's torment or not, we've already been through that; reason will prevail, and we won't go through it again, but something tells me that the worst is yet to come and is just around the corner.
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Are you against it?) It's not my business to judge what I smoke.
I'm not against it, do whatever you want, WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNISM HERE.
But why pour the philosophy you came up with while being high onto the forum?
There were many controversial things, many things were wrong, many things were idiotic, but weren't there any positive results?.. Of course not, yes, Vis, are we just a sad banana republic now?
There were much more wrong things. Noobdiscus.
It's fun to diagnose yourself)
Formulate your thoughts more clearly, it's not clear what you wanted to convey to the public.
Hmm... What does booze have to do with it if I lead a healthy lifestyle and don't consume anything that contains alcohol?.. It's clear who's really "gotten fat" here.
You're deflecting again, good job! But you still didn't answer the question.
I didn't notice that people were starving in the 60s...
Were you paying attention?
Well, people ate normally, what else could they do? Eat and work? Great prospect.
If you want to sleep soundly and eat well, go to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or Switzerland - they don't interfere in the politics of other countries and don't build their own tanks - everything is quiet and peaceful.
You're stating such obvious things that you might as well say that all the achievements of the USSR can be attributed to Ukraine, Belarus, or Kazakhstan - everyone made efforts and got what they have now... or at least what they had by the end of the 80s - one of the two most powerful world powers.
Do achievements achieved through bloodshed mean nothing to anyone? Thank you, get out of here, because you're disgracing all the veterans...
I want to sleep soundly and eat well, and also breathe air, not smoke. If I have the opportunity, I might leave.
The achievements of the USSR are such achievements that are the most achievements, only the achievements of the USSR have value, everything that is not the achievements of the USSR is not achievements.
You paraphrased me perfectly.
Get out of here, you rat-informer communist, you should be driven away with a broom to the post-Soviet camps for political prisoners. You are disgracing everything that exists in Russia, you are disgracing its healthy will, which helped to finally defeat the vile communist plague in souls and hearts! That's it! Because vaistenu! Get out! Get out, heretic!
Remind me of that moment, I don't remember)
All the bad things are quickly forgotten:):):):)
Who?..
That's a question for you, Mr. information gatherer from anonymous sources.
You are easily drawn into heated discussions because, no matter how hard most people try to convince me of my own stubbornness, you are no better, and perhaps even more stubborn...
I'll let you in on a little secret, most people don't care about you, the USSR, Russia, Stalin, or anything at all. The main thing is a fun discussion. That's it. In a day, you'll go back to where you came from, and everything will be quiet and peaceful:):):):):)
As for "not trying to convince me of my own stubbornness," you should meet Gilts, he's also a master of this kind of wordplay.
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Siverfale

By the way, Slonysh, I'm curious about your opinion, as a former moderator of the mafia section – are Alex's insults, swearing, distortions, and other expressions trolling, or something else?
In reality, each forum, or rather, even each section of the same forum, has its own moral standards, although officially, in the rules of almost any resource, there is, for example, a punishment for swearing.
I once awarded points for swearing a couple of times, and the affected parties were almost shocked by the surprise.
You see, it's pointless for one moderator to try to change the system. For example, the way Neyra communicates on the forum would be grounds for a ban on many resources. But it doesn't bother anyone, so why start repressions?
At one time, I communicated on football forums, and there they didn't even swear, they just talked. And no one thought to contact the moderators.
In general, you understand: if you don't like this style of communication, you can ring the bell, that is, click the red button at the bottom of the post, and summon a moderator with a flaming-punishing sword. I don't like it, but you guys are having a perfectly normal, "bro-like" conversation, so why should I impose my refined rules of communication on anyone?
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WisTrit
I don't mind, go ahead and indulge in whatever you want, WE DON'T HAVE COMMUNISM HERE.
But why pour the philosophy you've acquired during this indulgence onto the forum?
Freedom of speech)) Don't like it?)
WisTrit
There was much more that was wrong. Noodiscas.
You're wrong too) So what?)
WisTrit
Formulate your thoughts more clearly, it's unclear what you wanted to convey to the public.
The fact is that, unfortunately, you are suffering from a flood addiction or intolerance, or maybe something else - I haven't learned how to diagnose the disease yet.
WisTrit
You're deflecting again, good job! But you still haven't answered the question.
I don't like the judicial reform, the regulations on capital, oligarchs, and the low accountability of officials and deputies.
WisTrit
Did you watch it carefully?
Well, people were eating normally, what else could they do? Eat and work? That's a great prospect.
That's better than just eating and, excuse me, shitting...
WisTrit
I want to sleep soundly and eat well, and also breathe air, not smoke. If possible, I might leave.
The achievements of the USSR are such achievements that are the most significant achievements, but only the achievements of the USSR have value, everything that is not an achievement of the USSR is not an achievement.
You paraphrased me perfectly.
You want to breathe air - welcome to the Siberian forests. There's significantly more smoke now... And the way you paraphrased it - a troubled mind gives the hands no rest.)
WisTrit
Get out of here, you rat-snitch communist, you should be chased away with a dirty broom to the latrines of post-Soviet camps for political prisoners. You are disgracing everything that exists in Russia, you are disgracing its healthy will, which helped to finally defeat the vile communist plague in souls and hearts! That's it! Because vaistenu! Get out! Get out, heretic!
Hello, V.V.Zh.!))
WisTrit
All bad things are quickly forgotten.
But are you too lazy to dig into it?) Lazy, and you haven't provided any proof...
WisTrit
This is a question for you, Mr. information gatherer from anonymous sources.
I don't know who you meant by "Sashka"...
WisTrit
I'll tell you a little secret, most people don't care about you, the USSR, Russia, Stalin, or anything else. The main thing is a fun discussion. That's it. In a day, you'll go back to where you came from, and everything will be quiet and peaceful:):):):):):)
Regarding "They didn't try to convince me of my own stubbornness," that's a disaster, meet Gilts, he's also a master of such wordplay.
And that's good) It's a pity I can't say the same about you - is it a pleasure to realize your own importance in the flood?)
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WisTrit
Yeah, definitely. Just look at all those cosmetic bloggers.
I'm flattered by the attention to my person, but I have no idea what your hobby is, and I don't plan on acquiring that knowledge. And since I haven't told you about it, where did you, poor thing, find this information – I hope you didn't get too tired searching.
"I chased you for three days to tell you that you don't matter to me" – wonderful, you even slightly amused me today.

And yes, for the future – I'm a journalist, so you don't have to strain yourself searching for more information. :smile01:

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