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This example would be appropriate if I were to create my own game outside of the queue. As for the settings, there are no queues for submitting them.

We currently have about 12-14 GMs who are interested, so Zubr exaggerated.

and you exaggerated.
you'll say that everyone wanted to create topics with polls.

Not just him.

are you signing up as the fourth person? Okay. Four people decide for everyone.

Zubr, regarding the system and the word "can," that's your subjective opinion. People are not obligated to act in accordance with it. Do you understand? It's a different matter if these were forum rules, but these are just personal preferences. Don't impose your opinion on others.
I created my topic temporarily, and I would delete it later.

I'm not imposing anything on you. I'm just explaining what and how. I'm giving examples, etc.
I didn't understand about "can"... Before my post, two other people gave you the same explanation...
Stop nitpicking at the details. If you have clear arguments, based on which your topic and similar ones make sense, then state them. Then we can continue the discussion. We can even create a poll for people: "do they need these topics or not?". But at the moment, arguments have only been presented in favor of the correctness of my position. They even provided an excerpt from the rules.
Besides quoting words out of context, you haven't offered anything in response. Just phrases like "it was needed for me," "it didn't bother anyone."

The topic does not violate the rules. Your actions violate the rules. What other arguments and points are needed?
By the way, do topics about older games bother you? They can also be deleted, as you have the authority.

The idea of a poll-based topic was for specific cases, not for every game. I have already described the reasons for this.

The topic does not violate the rules. Your actions violate the rules.

Oh... Let's stick to the facts, which, unfortunately, are against you.

Before creating a new topic on the HeroesWorld forum, it is recommended to use the search function and, if a similar topic is found, leave a message in it.

If duplicate topics are found on the forum with an existing discussion of the topic in both topics, they should be merged.

(This is exactly what was done:)

By the way, do old game topics bother you? We can delete them too; we have all the authority.

Old topics are part of the system. Again, you missed the mark, unfortunately.

where in the topics was the question repeated? There was one in the workshop, and a completely different one in my topic. +poll.
Honestly, I don't understand why you're trying to hide behind the rules now, when you deleted the topic purely because of your whim?

Old topics are part of the system. Unfortunately, you missed the point.

and my topic was not part of your system, and it was deleted. Yes, I already understand this.

to be honest, I don't understand why you're trying to hide behind the rules now.

I'm not hiding behind anything. I already explained my initial motives above. Now I'm just demonstrating that, even from the perspective of the rules, the correct actions were taken.
The same thing could have happened in the workshop, except without a poll. The fact that you created a separate thread doesn't change that.

and my thread wasn't part of your system, and it was deleted.

The system is supposed to be shared. All GMs use it. Besides, you already have experience running games, so the urgent need to create a thread is even more unclear. You seemed to manage without it before.

Your motives contradict the rules of the forum. Do you understand this or not? General, and who approved it? Did everyone agree? Can it not be changed now? I explained the reason why I needed a separate thread. It didn't bother anyone; it's just that someone had an itch and decided to relieve it by deleting my thread with their clumsy hands. It didn't please someone from the very beginning, and I remember that. And now they've found a way to deal with it. And also, if it had violated the rules, it would have been deleted immediately. But the thread existed for a week and suddenly started bothering someone and then violating the rules. What a bad thread, oh dear. But why didn't anyone tell me about it? I would have punished it myself. Omega, that's a bad example.

Only chaos is worse than fighting chaos.

How could I have missed such a show with deletions? Couldn't they have waited until the next day so I could participate in it? x)

you exaggerated.
you'd say everyone wanted to create topics with polls.

I wanted to. It would have been difficult without a poll, as I'm curious who would play in my Mafia game. Besides, what makes me, or any other GM, worse than you?

All I've gathered from these discussions is that the moderators took away Arandor's candy, and he sulked about it. Well, it would have been fine if he just whined, but he also decided to get revenge by messing things up for everyone else.
The only thing I don't quite agree with the moderators on is that they could have talked to Arandor first. On the other hand, they didn't have to =\= they should have.
In general, I don't understand why Arandor did all this, and I also don't understand why he was making so many excuses. The problem could have been solved more humanely, without deleting the 35th Mafia game and the Workshop.
P.S.: Arandor is wrong, I think.

Arandor is a tsundere. I think he needs to be taken down a peg. GIVE ME BACK MY AR MAFIA, OR I’LL LOWER YOUR BD.

On the other hand, they could have, but they didn’t have to.

Well, in my opinion, they should have. In the case of controversial issues regarding the moderation of a particular section, the decision should be made by all the moderators of that section.

Well, regarding myself, I approve of the moderators' decision regarding my topic. After all, the reason for its creation is indeed questionable, and the poll was already available in the workshop. If I had the option to create the poll there initially, I would have done so, but unfortunately, I am not a moderator. Archik's situation is slightly different because, for the first time on the forum, the same setting is being played for the second time. And he is right; not everyone will want a repeat. So, his reasons for creating a separate topic are quite understandable. On the other hand, Arandor, as a moderator, could have pinned the poll in the workshop. But he decided that a new topic would be more visible, and indeed, I don't think everyone reads the workshop. In general, once again, let's all get along. Ask each other for forgiveness and forget about this incident. Slonysh didn't act very well when she moved posts from Archik's topic to the general topic without warning. Archik didn't act very well when he held other topics hostage. In general, both are at fault, let's be honest. So, acknowledge your fault, apologize, hug, and live in peace. Peace to everyone.

Toxic is trying to butter up Arandorchik
And besides, he could have just asked in the workshop/on forums. Although, I admit, I didn't care when Arandor created the thread, and it didn't bother me, but if it was deleted anyway, why show yourself in a bad light because of some ego?

But he thought that a new thread would be more visible, and indeed, I don't think everyone reads the workshop.

Most players read it. After all, before, we discussed things, played, and everything was fine.

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So admit your fault, apologize, hug, and live in peace.

What are you smoking?

1. This is a matter for the moderators, and I don't understand why other players are getting involved. 2. I don't understand how the topics can bother you? Is it difficult for you to figure things out? When I go to the forum, there are unread posts in: the current Mafia game, in general discussions, and less often, but still, in the Workshop. Besides the posts in the Mafia game, everything else can be read in 2-3 minutes. (Of course, there are rare cases when such debates arise that a new Mafia game appears every 8 hours in terms of the number of posts.) 3. Regarding the main topic. The moderators were wrong to delete Ara's topic. He is also a moderator, and they could have discussed it with him, or if they couldn't reach a compromise, they shouldn't have applied any sanctions to his poll. If you say that this somehow interferes with the system, I will say that it doesn't bother me personally. But I also didn't see the point in Ara's topic. There is a Workshop for discussing settings. For me personally, this type of poll is just an extra reason to click the "participate" button because I would probably play in all the settings. I think Ara wouldn't have been confused if he had simply conducted the poll in the Workshop. 4. Ara was wrong to delete (in retaliation for the deletion of his topic) the Workshop and, in general, it's not clear how it was related to the 35th Mafia game. Just because Zubr is running it? The deletion of Ara's topic reminds me of the saying: "I'll poke out my own eye so that my mother-in-law will have a one-eyed son-in-law."

I have a suggestion for future Mafia games to avoid such disputes over "unique" themes. However, it will require a small amount of work from the moderators of this section (but it's okay, Arandor said that it's not difficult for him to delete topics, so he can do that too). Let future GMs be able to create topics like "[DISCUSSION] Mafia {Mafia name}". There, let there be a discussion of the setting and a poll. Then, when the Mafia game itself begins, the topic will be renamed with an assigned sequential number for the Mafia game, the GM posts the final rules and the list of roles, and a link to the start of the game is placed in the first post. As a result, there is no "favoritism," and everyone gets their own poll absolutely legally, as long as they want it, and "Workshop" can be sent into retirement. But Arandor will have to regularly change the topic names.

You're here writing and writing, like Jack, for example, but neither Slonysh nor Zubr read your posts, and if they do, they skim through them without paying much attention. Why would anyone need your opinion? A competent moderator wouldn't stoop to that.