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Registered: 11/17/2006

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#1540 7/8/2011 5:47 PM UTC

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All he cares about is entertainment, lavish balls, and drunken evenings in pubs.

Visi, that's great!:smile40: Balls and pubs! A never-ending cycle and McDonald's!
Does His Highness ever visit sports bars?

Registered: 1/31/2011

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#1541 7/8/2011 5:59 PM UTC

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Overall, I liked the setting, but I still have many questions about the wording. I will ask them in the open thread. Perhaps the full rules will clarify some details.
And yes, everything is fine with the images in my Opera browser.

Even if we fight, even if there’s such thing
I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
I’ll be here

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#1542 7/8/2011 6:21 PM UTC

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I don't understand something. The Viceroy and Advisor have silver weapons and the ability to kill the Avenger. That's cool, but they don't have a killing special ability! :smile08: Or does a Silver Grand Piano fall out of the bushes on the Avenger who attacks them?

Only gains the ability to use a special ability after the Viceroy and Advisor die.

What a powerful role, if the Advisor and Viceroy survive until the end of the game.:smile30:

Killed in another bar brawl.

Are they mixing vodka with the beer there? You might as well write "bloody lemonade brawl." :cool:

However, something just won't leave my head, again and again making me curse myself for my decision.

I hope it's not a nail.

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#1543 7/8/2011 6:23 PM UTC

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Slohnish, you probably didn't notice that... the world setting is far from the "Marlezon Ballet," "Ilitiaavs," and other similar content. If I used the word "pub" to describe a cheap beer establishment where you can cause a ruckus, get completely drunk, and indulge in other pleasures, it doesn't mean what you thought it meant (although I didn't fully explain it). I think I clearly described the essence of the Viscount's character; apparently, it didn't register with you.
You forgot to nitpick about the fact that "Governor," "Viscount," and "Duke" are NOT the same thing!!

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#1544 7/8/2011 6:26 PM UTC

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Okay, okay, just tell me when the registration opens.

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#1545 7/8/2011 6:28 PM UTC

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Looks great.
Guys, what's the average game length? Is it realistic to finish by turn 18?

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#1546 7/8/2011 6:32 PM UTC

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I don't understand something. The Viceroy and the Advisor have silver weapons and the ability to kill the Avenger. That's cool, but they don't have a killing special ability! Or does a Silver Grand Piano fall from the bushes onto the Avenger who attacks them? Come on, surprise me.

At least read it to the end.

What a powerful role, if the Advisor and the Viceroy survive until the end of the game.

ORDINARY CITIZEN
SPECIAL ABILITY: NONE
UNIQUE ABILITY: NONE

Oh, what a cool role!

Are they mixing beer with vodka there? You might as well write "a bloody lemonade brawl."

What should I answer? "Yes, they dilute it"? "No, it was just a big fight with the use of cold weapons"? "The city gangs had a quarrel based on a drinking party"? I could, but why?

I hope this isn't a nail.

______

I already said, I'll open it tomorrow, starting at 11 (12 at the latest).
I suggest ending the unproductive nitpicking; I'll answer everything anyway, and you'll just look silly. If you have something good to say (like about the balance), say it. If you think that "this special ability definitely doesn't belong here," speak up, but with arguments. I'll be up late today, and tomorrow morning I'll open the sign-up and maybe make a couple of adjustments.

Menti, as it turns out.

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#1547 7/8/2011 6:38 PM UTC

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WisTrit

At least read it to the end.

And more specifically, doctor? How do they kill?

Registered: 9/1/2009

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#1548 7/8/2011 6:44 PM UTC

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They kill with a finger. They point their finger, and lightning shoots out of it.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

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Registered: 7/10/2008

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#1549 7/8/2011 6:45 PM UTC

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Features
1) Tainted Blood - cannot be killed with ordinary weapons.

Here's the defense.

3) Claws - if the Viceroy, Advisor, and Mistress are dead, there is a 50% chance of survival during execution.

Here's the continuation.
I anticipate a similar statement: "How does he survive execution? Do they chop off his head and it grows back?)))))0", no, it doesn't grow back. The Avenger simply escapes, he runs away from the guards, that's what happens. The role is revealed, of course.

The Viceroy initially had the ability to kill the Avenger, but I fixed it. The Advisor received the Viceroy's immunity upon his death, I also fixed that.
Is it clear?

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#1552 7/8/2011 7:10 PM UTC

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Slohnish, read the TEXT. SILVER WEAPON is now ONLY NEEDED for executions; BEFORE, the GOVERNOR would DOMINATE with a REVOLVER, BANG BANG, like a vengeful character, instead of throwing them in jail, but I thought it was overpowered and FIXED it, meaning that GUYS hit with SILVER WEAPON when they WANT to throw someone in jail, and the vengeful character CAN'T kill them, so they DIE like that. But BEFORE, yes, he would DOMINATE with his ND, and if he DIED, the GOVERNOR could DOMINATE with his SILVER SWORD, PEW-PEW, and AHAHAHA, tremble, noob, and the vengeful character would DIE the same way.

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Registered: 12/26/2006

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#1553 7/8/2011 7:14 PM UTC

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With silver weapons, it's unclear, but okay. Tell me, why does the Elven Mistress

Human, Believer.

have this? How is that possible?
Plus, all the Elves have kill abilities, while the town only has two, and even then, the Viscount might not even live to see it. Moreover, the Mistress kills both the half-elf and the golem, the Dancer might not leave any clues, the Assassin kills on the spot and also tears through the defenders, the Whisperer is impossible to block, the Sorceress kills the Technomancer on the spot, and the Archer isn't afraid of protection. Tell me, what will stop them from wiping everyone out in the very first night with such abilities? They need to be controlled.

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THEY WANT TO THROW HIM IN JAIL, AND THE AVENGER CAN'T KILL.

THE AVENGER IS HIDING TO AVOID CAPTURE.

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#1554 7/8/2011 7:15 PM UTC

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Plus, all Elves have the "Assassinate" skill, while the town only has two.

This is standard; everyone in the Mafia can kill. They just have a limit on the number of Night actions.

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#1555 7/8/2011 7:18 PM UTC

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With silver weapons, it's unclear, but okay.

Oh, come on, fine, I'll remove "silver weapons" and make it "kills half-bloods." What will happen then? "Why are these two killing half-bloods, but the others aren't? *Some kind of nonsense* I don't understand!".

How is that?

It's disguised.

Plus, all elves have this ability, but only two in the city do, and even then, the Viscount won't live long enough to use it. Moreover, the Enchantress kills both half-bloods and golems, the Dancer can leave no trace, the Assassin actually kills and tears through defenders, the Whisper can't be blocked, and the Sorceress kills the Technomancer outright, and the Archer isn't afraid of defense. Tell me, what will stop them from wiping everyone out on the very first night with such abilities? It needs to be adjusted.

A limitation, for example, on the number of action points. There are twice as many cities, and the skills aren't bad either.
The Enchantress is a leader; it's her job to kill everyone.
I added the feature with leaving no trace for the Dancer later; I thought it would be better for balance.
The Assassin is strong, but she can be killed or executed just as easily.
You still have to find the Technomancer; it's not easy to figure out who the Technomancer is.

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Registered: 12/26/2006

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#1556 7/8/2011 7:18 PM UTC

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Restrictions are restrictions, but aren't the killings a bit too brutal? You can definitely send an assassin, and arrange things for the rest depending on the situation. Okay, it's not up to me to decide, and it's not up to me to play.

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