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Hmm, yes, indeed... "Nothing is lost" - that's amusing. But who do you think Aves is then? Is it a hint at the absence of a non-damage skill, and she's a Prior?
I think that the absence of a non-damage skill that a Rogue can use is equivalent to its absence.
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And yes, I understand that, as a Templar, you will urge people to protect your mafia, but we can think for ourselves and understand that you are also our opponents. If one of the mafias does kill the Inquisitor, we will be in a bad situation against you, considering the possibility of resurrection.
Sorry, Gil, but why "we"? So far, I only see your opinion on this.
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It's logical, you ask her to resurrect someone, and yet you expect her to kill you? So, what's the point of resurrecting them then? It doesn't make sense. :).\nAnd in general, the Executioner is very beneficial for the Demon Worshippers. :)

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An Adept? Why an Adept? The Adept is Gur; the clue from "La Commedia" pointed to him, and to me. According to your arguments, I'm a Magister, so the clue refers to him. And the murder of the Hermit is a sacrifice; the inscription carved on his forehead... Isn't that a sacrifice? And on the Adept's card, there are claws digging in, which leave similar scratches, like on the Hermit's forehead. What's wrong with the Adept?
Emm, that was sarcasm. I hope you understood it too. :D\nHe's beneficial, but you should tell that to them, not to me. :)\nWell, if it's not the Prophet and not the Adept, then who is it? The Antichrist? And about the clue - I wasn't entirely sure that I had found all possible interpretations. Over time, this certainty didn't appear either. You did a great job weaving the story. You even corrected me about the fact that the Prophet couldn't be killed by the Hunter (due to his status). According to you, the Adept is Gur. The Antichrist also cannot be killed due to his status. So, who is Ar then? The Inquisitor? :D That's already too obvious a search for a player who can be blamed instead.



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I would gladly execute Aves; I'm so tired of arguing with her. And Kitz Kitsunka is clearly a marshal.
Should we keep Tako? **I REALLY DON'T KNOW.**
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I think that the absence of a non-combat skill that a Rogue can use is equivalent to it not existing at all.
Yeah, I came to the same conclusion. Aves - Magister.
Aves
Sorry, Gil, but why "we"? So far, I only see your opinion on this. :)
There haven't been many people participating in the thread yet, so what? :) You'll see other opinions too, don't worry. :)



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Hmm, that was sarcasm. I hope you too. :D
It's beneficial, but you should tell them that, not me. :)
Well, who else could it be, if not the Prophet or the Adept? The Antichrist? And about the clue – I wasn't entirely sure I had found all possible interpretations. Over time, this certainty didn't appear either. You did a great job. You even corrected me about the fact that the Prophet couldn't be killed by the Hunter (due to his status). The Adept, in your opinion, is Gur. The Antichrist also cannot be killed due to his status. And who is Ar then? The Inquisitor? :D This is already too obvious a search for a player who can be blamed instead.
The Inquisitor with an inverted cross? Hmm... Actually, I thought that if Arandor is not the Antichrist, not the Prophet, and not the Adept, then it is quite possible that he is a Warlock, and in that case, the cross is quite explainable as he is the best student of the Warlock.
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I would gladly execute Aves; I'm so tired of arguing with her. And Kitz Kitsunka is a Marshal; it's obvious.
Should we keep TaKo? I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
Do you still think TaKo is a Demon Worshipper that the Hunter won't be able to kill?
Aves
An Inquisitor with an inverted cross? Hmm... Actually, I thought that if Arandor isn't the Antichrist, the Prophet, or an Adept, then it's quite possible that he's a Sorcerer, and in that case, the cross is perfectly explainable as the best student of a necromancer.
That was another sarcastic remark... And what does that logic explain? Sorcerers study various spellbooks, not buy heretical literature. And then you contradict yourself, at least in one of the two scenarios.
1. You agree that Vish is a Witch, right? I hope so. Ar, in your opinion, is a Sorcerer. Reg is a Necromancer who drew a pentagram. Let's assume that. Then why do you say that "almost all" Occultists were destroyed? Where is the "almost" if they were completely destroyed?
2. Another scenario. Reg is a Demon Worshipper who drew a demonic pentagram. Then, yes, one more Occultist is still alive. But who was Reg, in your opinion, and what are your assumptions about this? Where is the disagreement with the fact that he is an Occultist?



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Gil4

Where is the "almost" then, if it's completely?
Well, that's a rather weak argument, please don't be offended. :)
You should rather tell me why Arandor can't be a Warlock?

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And why aren't you commenting on the evidence related to Gur? :(

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Regarding Reg - "The pentagram has long been used as a symbol protecting against evil."
For a long time, the pentagram was a symbol of health and life. It was believed that it could protect against evil spirits, evil spells, and witchcraft. The pentagon (a regular pentagon) is a symbol of perfection and eternity, a powerful amulet of health, and a magical tool in magic rituals. In the Middle Ages, it was often seen at the entrance to a house as protection against the devil and evil spirits.
Again, it's not a fact that Reg is an occultist.
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I didn't quite understand... was the Blacksmith's block successful or not?
Blacksmith. Night Action – Heavy Hand. Blocks a selected player. (Exception – Warlock, Templar, Grand Inquisitor, Witch Hunter)
If the block was successful: from the peaceful roles, it's the Thief. The Usurer bribed her on the first night, and the Inquisitor checked her on the second... meaning there's only one peaceful role.
If it wasn't successful: it's the Templar or the Witch Hunter.

The Witch Hunter kills a player with the "cursed" status. So, if the Witch Hunter comes for the soul of the player in question, and she is a Templar, he won't kill her. But if she is the Thief, it's possible. However, based on the note, if it's truthful, the player in question is a Heretic, which means she can't be classified as any peaceful role. Let's hope the note is genuine?
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Aves
Well, that's a rather weak argument, please don't take it personally :)
Instead, tell me why Arandor couldn't be a Sorcerer?

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And why aren't you commenting on the evidence related to Gur? :(

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Regarding Reg - "The pentagram has long been used as a symbol protecting against evil."
For a long time, the pentagram was a symbol of health and life. It was believed to be able to protect against evil spirits, evil spells, and witchcraft. The pentagon (a regular pentagon) is a symbol of perfection and eternity, a powerful amulet of health, and a magical tool in magic rituals. In the Middle Ages, it was often seen at the entrance to a house as protection against the devil and evil spirits.
Again, it's not a fact that Reg is an occultist.
No, you better tell me, why suddenly he COULD be a Sorcerer. :D Since when do Sorcerers walk around with books that have inverted crosses on them?

I commented on the evidence back then; it doesn't seem convincing enough to me. But I admit you might be right. That's why I'm sending the Thief to Gur.

And who do you think Reg is, and what was the point of mentioning the pentagram?



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Gil4
No, you should rather explain why he COULD be a Sorceress. :D Since when do Sorceresses walk around with books that have inverted crosses on them?

I commented on the clue back then, and it doesn't seem accurate enough to me. But I admit you might be right. That's why I'm sending the Thief to the Guru.

And who do you think Reg is, and what does this have to do with the Pentagram?
So, what should I say? Aren't you the one denying my conclusion? So, please tell me where I'm wrong. :)
And why do you think it's not accurate enough?
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Kits Kitsunka
I didn't quite understand... was the Blacksmith's block successful or not?
Blacksmith. Special ability – Heavy Hand. Blocks a selected player. (Exception – Warlock, Templar, Grand Inquisitor, Witch Hunter)
If the block was successful: among the peaceful roles, the Thief is present. The Usurer bribed her on the first night, and the Inquisitor checked her on the second... meaning there is only one peaceful role.
If it was unsuccessful: it's either the Templar or the Witch Hunter.

The Witch Hunter kills a player with the "cursed" status. So, if the Witch Hunter comes for the soul of the player in question, even if she is a Templar, he won't kill her. But if she is the Thief, he might. However, based on the note, if it's truthful, the player in question is a Heretic, which means she can't be classified as any of the peaceful roles. Let's hope the note is genuine?
It was successful; the special ability is not strong enough for an unsuccessful block. And it's already obvious that the player in question is Mafia, because she's a Heretic. The note is 100% not fake – there are no other options, no fake notes. It's obvious that the Inquisitor has no reason to remain silent now, and the note belongs to him.

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Aves
So, what should I say? Aren't you the one denying my conclusion? Then please, tell me where I'm wrong. :)
And why do you think it's not accurate enough?
You're so stubborn. You're the one denying the general opinion that AR is the Adept. So, prove it; I'll gladly read your arguments. :)
Because I don't like the connection. Sometimes, clues immediately feel right – you feel like you've found the answer. And sometimes, there are clues that you doubt for a long time because the connection isn't very strong. But let's stop arguing about this; I admit that clues can vary in their strength. I'm just being cautious. And the main question: why did you ignore and not answer me, what role do you think Reg has?



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The pentagram was widely known as a protection against all evil... I found that out too. Could the Registrar – the Inquisitor – really be right? But then there's no point in merging the Templars. Those who are needed for victory are dead, and we can interact with them in the city. Or not? At night, they don't do anything for the city, unfortunately, but they might be needed during the daytime vote. And could we revive the executioner, perhaps by persuading them? We could really use him... And why was I even put on the list of marshals?
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Okay, since no one wants to initiate the execution... **execute Ayves**. Morny, if you're worried that TaCo is clean (because he's a Demon Worshipper), let's have the Thief go to her at the same time as the Witch Hunter. I'm very doubtful about the Guru Adept anyway. :D If she turns out to be clean, the Thief won't let her kill - and we'll get an extra kill for the next night.



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Gil4

You are so stubborn. You deny the general opinion that Ar is the Adept. So, go ahead and prove it; I'll gladly read your arguments. :)
Actually, it's not a general opinion; that's a bit of an exaggeration, and I wrote why. :) But I can write it again if you really need me to.
I suspected Gur was the Adept from the very beginning and tried to execute him on the first, second, and third days, as you can see. Why? Simply because there's no one else to attribute that clue to, and I think it looks quite compelling: "La Commedia --> Commedia dell'Arte, the 'comedy of masks.'" Slonish wrote about this, and Gur has a quote in his signature from the movie "The Mask" - "— Amazing! With this power, I can be a superhero. I can fight crime, protect the innocent, bring peace to the world! But first..." What genre is "The Mask"? Correct, a comedy. :) And as I wrote, I was also a suspect, but according to you, I'm the Magister. Fine, you don't like the clue, but what about the murder itself? The Hermit has a bloody inscription scratched on his forehead, and in the Adept's picture, claws are piercing the skin, and blood is flowing from underneath... In my opinion, it's all very, very compelling. :)
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