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Yes, you're right. I'm updating the odds, taking into account:
Stinger:smile49: -1.37
Any other:smile17: -3.19
PReDS
Posts from CIS Club Championship 2010-2011
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I can assure you that, for example, Term can easily win a match up to 3 wins against Napalm and Vitalik, including because they have much less gameplay experience with the specified rules - Napalm has only played occasionally for over a year, and Vitalik mainly plays with SOD.
Even our clown from the SamuraiKo Rating Agency ranked Vitalik 2 places higher than Term :)
I still can't forget how Samurai had odds of 1.45 to 1.45 for Player1 against Player2 :)))
vitalic
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I'm betting on Vitalik; people have at least seen his games live or on Mikogo, but who is Term? :)
Even our clown from the SamuraiKo Rating Agency ranked Vitalik two places higher than Term :)
I still can't forget how Samurai had Player1 vs. Player2 with odds of 1.45 to 1.45 :)))
Don't bet; I don't know anything about VT, I always choose Kiry out of habit and give the swamp to my opponent. And I'm not going to play at all; I'm going to visit Eric, plus I need to give Vanya and Stinger a chance to redeem themselves in arm wrestling (but keep Oxy away from me; he and his friend tormented me all morning after a drunken night, measuring strength...then I couldn't play volleyball for a couple of weeks).
PReDS
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...then I didn't play volleyball for a couple of weeks.
Dirty_Player
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Who is Term? No idea.
Lider1
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... plus, Vanu and Stinger should be given a chance to redeem themselves in arm wrestling (but keep Oxygene away from me, he and his friend tormented me all morning, taking turns, after a drunken night... measuring their strength).
However, it's fun :D
Piterius
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Me and Medium are planning to arrive by car on the 30th in the morning, just before the tournament starts. It would be nice to start playing in the morning as well, rather than waiting until lunchtime if the draw pairs us with someone who is also arriving. I don't really mind who I play against, but after a long journey, waiting half a day for an opponent and finishing a game at midnight (if we even finish) could be stressful and affect performance in the remaining rounds.
The partition between players is certainly a drawback, but that's how it is. However, regarding hints – my opinion is, if it's a game with money at stake, what kind of hints are we talking about? Otherwise, what's the point of the entry fees? There will always be dissatisfied people; it's an individual tournament, not a team one. Either ban hints completely or allow participation without an entry fee. Has anyone ever seen an intellectual game where hints and spectators are randomly thrown in?
The partition between players is certainly a drawback, but that's how it is. However, regarding hints – my opinion is, if it's a game with money at stake, what kind of hints are we talking about? Otherwise, what's the point of the entry fees? There will always be dissatisfied people; it's an individual tournament, not a team one. Either ban hints completely or allow participation without an entry fee. Has anyone ever seen an intellectual game where hints and spectators are randomly thrown in?
iDD
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Just to clarify, PReDS and I will be arriving by train on April 29th at 9:11 PM.
Dirty_Player
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Just got back from the station. Van and Dust left in the right direction. Wait for them :)
Слоныш
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Just got back from the station. Van and Dust left in the right direction. Wait for them :)
Oh, I just remembered that I owe Dust some beer. Is there any beer in Michurinsk? :smile10:
Qwerty
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Bought wine, glasses, snacks, got prepared, and... got sick :((((
I'm giving up the tickets...
I really wanted to meet everyone, and I've never even met Peterius...
That's just how things happen in life...
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I bought wine, cups, snacks, got ready and... got sick (((
Selling the tickets...
2 Querty. Very, very sorry. :eek: Get well soon, maybe you can still break away and join us before May 4th, even if just for a day. I wrote a big post and will be editing it.
Oh, I only just remembered that I owe Dust a beer. Is there beer in Michurinsk?
2 Slonysh. Non-alcoholic beer definitely exists. But how will you serve the alcoholic Dust non-alcoholic beer? ;)
Clarification: I and PReDS are arriving by train on 29.04 at 21:11
2 iDD. That's not enough. We need the train number and its name. Also, what is the arrival station called - Michurinsk-Voronezhsky or Michurinsk-Uralsky. And it would be nice to know your car number.
Medium and I plan to arrive by car on the 30th in the morning, by the start of the tournament. It would be good to start playing in the morning as well, rather than sitting around if the draw pits us against someone arriving at lunchtime. I don't really care who I play against, but after making a long journey, then waiting half a day for an opponent, finishing a game at midnight (if we finish), could be stressful and the fatigue will affect the remaining rounds.
2 Piterius. 25 finalists. Yama-Dharma is loaded with work and will arrive later as a guest. On the morning of the 30th, the finalists from Moscow will be: Vigo, Vitalic, Marcon, Stinger, Preds.
Also: Mee, Merlin, Asm, Piterius, Medium, Roland from Gilead.
Plus the locals: Lexa, Scorp, Mizrael.
Approximately 6 pairs will be seated to play at 10-00.
The remaining 7 pairs upon the arrival of the St. Petersburg players: Bayazet, AlexTheGreat, Kobra, Porizatel, TERM, JIOCb, Matrosoff. Also arriving are Napalm, Borzoid, General Yura, Van. These pairs will start at approximately 14-30.
The main thing is to get through the first round; it will be easier after that. By the way, the players are generally against separating seeded players from the general pool, so the main goal in the 1st round is to separate players from the same city into different pairs.
A solid partition between players is of course brutal
It's not solid, everything is done intelligently. One large, bright hall, just the playing areas are separated so you can't accidentally peek at your opponent.
My IMHO, if you're playing for money, what kind of hints are there at all? Otherwise, what's the point of these entry fees? There will always be complainers, the tournament is individual, not team. Either ban hints completely or leave the right to participate without an entry fee. Has anyone ever seen a single intellectual game where hints are randomly thrown around by both spectators and participants?
If both players say before the game that they don't mind friendly hints, then the judges turn a blind eye to the conversations. If one of the players says they are categorically against hints, then the judges will pay special attention to that game to ensure no hints are given.
Variants of hints like "but what... I didn't say anything, I just..." won't work; we'll be removing people from the hall, IMHO we're playing for money.
Read again about the match between Dilvish and Mystik; one hint changed the final result.
Also, spectators will be asked to choose one playing area and stay there; fortunately, many games are being played, so there will be plenty to watch.
Once again about meeting the guests.
Arriving on the 29th after noon.
1. Vigo, Vitalik, Slonysh + Vigo's friend. 4 people.
2. Marcon, Stinger, Roland, Bloodliker. 4 people.
3. Yekaterinburg (by the way, call me on my mobile with which train from Moscow). Merlin, Asm, Mee, 911fx - four people.
4. 29.04 at 21:11 - iDD and Preds. Write the train and car number.
Total 14 people.
Arriving on the 30th.
1. Piterius and Medium by car in the morning.
2. Ta Kotoraya... (Novgorod) - 30.04. - at 10.25 - train 109 A St. Petersburg-Astrakhan, car 11 - station Michurinsk-Uralsky.
3. 30.04. - at 12.57 - train №111. St. Petersburg-Voronezh, car 2 - station Michurinsk-Uralsky.
Wicc, Bayazet, Porizatel, Horn, TERM, JIOCb, Kobra, AlexTheGreat, Napalm, Matrosoff, Rubetc, Fred, Cardinal, DR28 with spouse. Total 15 people from St. Petersburg.
4. 30.04. at 13:06 - train №104С Adler-Moscow, car - 10, station Michurinsk-Voronezhsky. Borzoid and General Yura.
5. 30.04. - at 13:57 - train 004, car 21 - station Michurinsk-Voronezhsky. Dust, Van, GreatGenius.
Plus Lekha, Mizrael, and Scorp.
No information yet on the arrival of Oxygen, please write.
P.S. Before the game in the 1st round, players pay 800 rubles for the club fee and 2000 into the prize fund.
PReDS
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2 Slonysh. Non-alcoholic beer is definitely available. But how will you give alcoholic Dust non-alcoholic beer? ;)
iDDJust to clarify, PReDS and I are arriving by train on April 29th at 21:11.
The train is Moscow-Balashov, No. 307 CH, car 10, arriving at 21:11 at Michurinsk-Voronezhsky.
P.S.
Yesterday, I tried to discuss with Yura in ICQ the issue, and his attitude towards it didn't please me at all, namely: which programs should be installed on the computers. Yura's approach: we'll arrive and figure it out on the spot - this doesn't suit me at all, because the guys from St. Petersburg arrive later, and also, previous events have shown that installing and configuring programs on the fly takes a couple of hours, which is time taken away from the tournament. Maybe Eric doesn't have experience setting up WoT, but he will definitely install SoD without any problems. WoT, at worst, is installed by simply copying the directory and placing the dat file with the tournament settings, which can be sent electronically. If something doesn't work, asm and Mee should arrive in the morning. But we need to have the WoT distribution at hand, and not download it (especially since, as far as I remember, the server's distribution is not the fastest).
So, here is a list of programs that don't necessarily need to be installed, but their distributions should be at hand on the morning of April 30, 2011 (if something is unnecessary, or I forgot something, please correct me):
WoT with a ready-made dat file with settings for the tournament;
SoD with an exe file that runs without a CD;
TE-Lite (Kiev version, but without a limit on the number of units);
HD-mod (whether someone wants to play on it or not - it doesn't matter) must be installed on at least 1 computer to fix the bug with the silvering;
Lighter, autosave, animation accelerator for SoD;
Chaos patch.
Ideally, there should be files with map templates on which the tournament is held, and the tournament rules.
mikoga, what they will stream, cards for poker, etc. - is up to the players' discretion.
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Yesterday, I tried to discuss the issue of which programs should be installed on the computers with Yura via ICQ, and his attitude toward it did not please me at all. Yuri's approach—"we'll arrive and figure it out on the spot"—is fundamentally unacceptable to me, because the St. Petersburg group arrives later, and previous events show that installing and configuring programs on the fly wastes a couple of hours taken away from the tournament. Eric might lack experience in configuring VT, but he can install SoD without any problems. In a pinch, VT is installed by simply copying the directory and dropping in the dat-file with tournament settings, which can be sent via email. If something doesn't work, asm and Mee should already be arriving by morning. But it's necessary that the VT distribution is already on hand rather than being downloaded (especially since, as I recall, the server's distribution speed isn't the fastest).
So, here is the list of programs that don't necessarily have to be installed, but whose distributions must be on hand on the morning of 30.04.2011 (if anything is extra or if I forgot something, I ask the others to correct me):
VT with a ready-made dat-file of settings for the tournament;
SoD with an exe that runs without a CD;
TE-lite (Kyiv version, but without the DD restriction);
HD-mod (regardless of whether anyone wants to play on it or not) must be installed on at least 1 computer to fix "greying out" bugs;
Lighter, autosaver, animation accelerator for SoD;
Chaos patch.
According to the messages, Asm arrives on the 29th after lunch. Roland is also arriving from Minsk. That evening on the 29th is when we will install all the necessary programs.
P.S. In principle, all of this is downloadable, but if anyone has it on a flash drive—please bring it along just in case.
It's a pity I won't be able to drink myself
Well... we'll see about that. :)
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Odds for winning the tournament
AlexTheGreat - 5.5
Bayazet - 8.0
Roland from Gilead - 9.0
Stinger - 9.0
TERM - 9.0
Kobra - 10.0
Any other - 2.0
...he might even consider intentionally losing in the first round so that he doesn't get too cocky :)
P.S. Before the game in the first round, players pay 800 rubles for the club and 2000 rubles into the prize pool.
Also, as far as I understand, a team from St. Petersburg is expected to arrive for the football game, so I think it would be wise for everyone to bring sports shoes, of course, if there is a field to play on in Michurinsk.
I would advise Nagan to think about a possible plan for the players and guests' leisure activities (barbecue, fishing, hunting, mushroom and berry picking, etc.), because spending several days in May in the club is a faux pas. And there will be much more positive emotions from such entertainment for everyone.
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