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Stinger -1.28

any other -3.75
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Thanks, Besha! ))
Just keep in mind that I haven't really played in a long time, so while I have some experience, practice still matters. Or, you know, just don't get drunk during the tournament – that's another option.
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Tema, leveling demons to level 112 is a guaranteed win :)
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This is more of a feature of the mapmaker.
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Samurai
As usual...
6-7. KobRa.
, Markon (please, Nagano, write the player's nickname correctly!!!)
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I might not play more than 1-2 rounds. If I make it to the top ten, that's good enough for me.
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=Stinger=

Just keep in mind that I ......blablabla.

Okay, updating the coefficient accordingly.

Stinger:smile49: -1.37

Any other:smile17: -3.19
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Tyoma, upgrading demons on 112 is a win-win option :)
Against Dust even that will work, the main thing is to avoid nighttime poker cocktails :D



p.s. Remembering over a drink the last meetup in Michurinsk - /topic/7047/
Damn!!! Such positive vibes kicked in! Holy crap...!

p.s.s. Took grandma to the hospital yesterday, today dad... :( it just had to happen a day before departure :( dad already had surgery, not a complicated one - everything is fine. seemingly..... I'm still coming to see you guys!
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
В прошлом "Координатор турниров Лиги Героев" (www.heroesleague.ru)
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It has a promising name :D
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P.S. Yesterday, I took my grandmother to the hospital, and today my father... it had to happen the day before I leave. My father already had surgery, it wasn't complicated - everything is fine... well, it seems so... I'll still come to visit you!

Alex, I'm sorry for your loss, hang in there! I'm looking forward to seeing you and Ivan.
Protif Dusta also says something like that, the main thing is to avoid those late-night poker cocktails.

Well... in reality, this cocktail looks even worse than in the picture, that's a fact.

P.S. I took the last portion of the cocktail from the Community and poured it down the toilet... two days later, the neighbors started experiencing flooding - a pipe burst, and the plumbers said that some kind of chemical liquid had corroded the iron... oh dear.

Now, about the final.

1. I've arranged with the management of the science city for free accommodation for 12-14 people in the best rooms. Families and girls will be prioritized. Also, tours of the city will be organized for the guests. Plus, they're providing a bus to pick up the guests. Other assistance is possible; I'll write more details tomorrow.
Thank you very much for your understanding and support.

Unfortunately, the club membership fees remain - 800 rubles for 4 days. On the 30th, we'll play from 10:00 to 24:00, and on the other days - from 10:00 to 22:00. Adjustments are possible during the tournament. The last day of the final is May 4th (round 5) - the fee is separate. There probably won't be many players left, there's no point in renting the entire club.

2. List of participants.
Javdet wrote that he will not be able to make it, 95 percent chance.
Kverty wrote something similar about Rebellius. If so, there will be 26 finalists.


1. Bayazet
2. AlexTheGreat
3. Kobra
4. Stinger

5. Vitalic
6. Porizatel
7. TERM
8. JIOCb
9. Matrosoff
10. Markon
11. Yama-Dharma
12. Preds
13. Vigo
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14. Napalm
15. Roland from Gilead.
16. Lexa
17. Scorp
18. Mizrael
19. Van
20. Borzoid
21. General Yura
22. Merlin
23. Mee
24. Asm
25. Piterius
26. Medium.

13 represent Moscow and St. Petersburg, and 13 are from "the rest of the world." In the first round, players from the same city cannot meet. After that, it's up to chance, although it's desirable to separate players from Yekaterinburg, Tambov, and Krasnodar into different pairs, as they could have played at home. There are too many players from Moscow and St. Petersburg - infighting is inevitable.
7 seeded players are highlighted: Bayazet, AlexTheGreat, Kobra, Stinger, Vitalic, Napalm, Roland from Gilead. They cannot meet each other in the first round.

3. Meeting the guests.
Those who wrote that they are arriving by train - I will meet them according to the schedule, which is listed in the first post of the topic. Those who are arriving by car - it's a bit more complicated. Most likely, the guests will arrive in the city and call me on the phone, I will meet them and arrange accommodation.

Based on the information received, Vigo, Vitalic, Slonysh + Vigo's friend (4 people) will arrive by car on April 29th.
Also, on the 29th, Markon, Stinger, Roland, iDD, and Bloodlaiker will arrive by car.
Also, on the 29th, players from Yekaterinburg are planning to arrive by train - 3 or 4 people.
In total, 12 or 13 people will arrive on Friday closer to the evening.

It is not yet known how Preds and Oxygen will arrive - maybe by car, or maybe on the 30th with the Moscow players. I also don't know when the Ukrainian players Piterius and Medium will arrive. Please write or call me.

In general, we can arrange a Heroes meeting somewhere in a cafe in the evening.

In the morning, on April 30th, there will be 12 finalists - 5 from Moscow and 7 from other cities: Vigo, Vitalic, Stinger, Markon, Yama-Dharma, Roland from Gilead, Mee, Asm, Merlin, Lexa, Mizrael, Scorp.
5 or 6 pairs can start round 1 at 10:00.

At this time, I will start meeting the guests.
1. Ta Kotoraya... (Novgorod) - 04/30 - at 10:25 - train 109 A St. Petersburg-Astrakhan, car 11 - Michurinsk-Uralsky station.
I will meet Tanya myself.

2. 5. 04/30 - at 12:57 - train No. 111. St. Petersburg-Voronezh, car 2 - Michurinsk-Uralsky station.
We will meet the players from St. Petersburg - Wicc, Bayazet, Porizatel, Horn, TERM, JIOCb, Kobra, AlexTheGreat, Napalm, Matrosoff, Rubetc, Fred, Cardinal, DR28 with his wife. I will take a bus, meet them, and then go to another station to meet the players from Krasnodar, and then to the dormitory - the guests will be accommodated. And then immediately to the club to play.

3. 04/30 at 13:06 - train No. 104S Adler-Moscow, car - 10, Michurinsk-Voronezh station.
Players from Krasnodar, Borzoid and General Yura, will arrive. 10 minutes after the arrival of the players from St. Petersburg, to another station. Maybe we'll have to wait a bit until we get to that station by bus. Then we'll go to the dormitory together.

4. 04/30 - at 13:57 - train 004, car 21 - Michurinsk-Voronezh station
Last, we will be waiting for Qwerty with his wife, GreatGenius, as well as Dust and Van from Siberia. I will definitely meet them personally.

The remaining 7 pairs will start playing at approximately 2:30 PM. Of course, the timing may be adjusted depending on when the guests arrive.
After the start of round 1, it will be easier for me - I will hand over the judging to Vika and only deal with organizational issues.
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Wow... what kind of amateur move is this, Eric? We agreed on dividing the cities, but where did this seeding come from? And especially in this composition – if we're going to seed, it should be according to the ranking agency, and in our case, that's Forrest.
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Wow... what kind of improvisation is this, Eric? We agreed on splitting players by cities.

But you're arriving on the 30th. If we wait for everyone to gather on Saturday and then draw lots, we'll start at best at 3:00 PM, or even later. About half the people will waste a lot of time. The more pairs that start playing earlier, the higher the chance that we'll finish the first round.

I think players from the same city should be separated. I wrote about "13 players from the capital" and "13 from the rest of the world." The difficulty is that there are unknown factors. When will Preds, Peterius, and Medium arrive? So, we can only be sure when we seat the last pair.
And where did the seeding come from? And especially in this composition - if we're going to seed, it should be according to the ranking agency, which in our case is Forrest.

The last thing I want is pairs like AlexGreat - Stinger or Bayazet - Roland in the first round. It's better for the players, the organizers, and the fans when the favorites start their fight for the championship later. If an unseeded player knocks out a favorite early on, then so be it.
But if the favorites survive the first two rounds, then the real battle will begin... a lot of people will tune in to the broadcast, starting from the 3rd round.

The best Heroes tournament was in Krasnodar in 2004. That's where they used a draw that separated the favorites. Of course, there was a Swiss system, but if you look at the essence, there's no difference - the favorites should meet later.

http://forum.heroesleague.ru/viewtopic.php?t=585&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120

There were questions. I never found out who the seeded players Lao, Ded Zapadlo, and Profus were; I can't remember them from any tournament.
At the same time, such brilliant players as Phil123 and DSVasya were unseeded and made it through from the very bottom. Still, they both made it far. Although I don't remember exactly, Vasya might have been placed in the second group due to the absence of seeded players.

Therefore, we need to approach this issue carefully. Suggest how to do the seeding, but objectively. And not: "He's from St. Petersburg, and that's all that needs to be said!"

P.S. Reserve the following numbers for the seeded players in the table: 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, 21, 25.
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3. Meeting the guests.

2. 5. 30.04. - at 12:57 - train No. 111, St. Petersburg-Voronezh, carriage 2 - Michurinsk-Uralsky station.
14 people from St. Petersburg are arriving – Wicc, Bayazet, Porizatel, Horn, TERM, JIOCb, Kobra, AlexTheGreat, Napalm, Matrosoff, Rubetc, Fred, Cardinal, DR28. I will take a bus, meet them, then we go to another station to meet the people from Krasnodar, and then to the dormitory – the guests will settle in. And then immediately to the club to play.

4. 30.04. - at 13:57 - train 004, carriage 21 - Michurinsk-Voronezh station.
We will wait for Qwerty with his wife, DR28 with his wife, as well as Dust and Van from Siberia. I will definitely meet them in person.
Eric, DR28 with his wife is arriving with the entire St. Petersburg group, and they already know Horn, so they will probably all go out together, at least they seem to be traveling in the same carriage.

And together with Qwerty with his wife, Dust, and Van, GreatGenius will arrive!

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Rick, DR28, is coming with his wife and the whole group from St. Petersburg. They already know Horn, so they will probably hang out together. At least, they seem to be traveling in the same train car.

And along with Qwerty and his wife, Dust, and Van, GreatGenius will also be coming!

Okay, noted.
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Well, you're arriving on the 30th. If we wait until everyone gathers on Saturday to do the draw, we'll start at 15-00 at best, or even later. Roughly half the people will waste a lot of time for nothing. The more pairs start playing earlier, the higher the probability that we'll finish the first round.

I think players from the same city should be separated; I wrote about "13 capital players" and "13 from the rest of the world." The difficulty is that there are unknown variables. When will Preds, Piterius, Medium arrive? That's why we can only be calm once we've seated the last pair.
I don't argue with that; I wrote that separation by city is necessary—this issue was raised at the last champ, but we didn't get around to it.
The last thing I want in round 1 are pairs like AlexGreat - Stinger or Bayazet-Roland. For the players, organizers, and fans alike, it's better when the favorites in the championships start their clash later. If such a favorite is knocked out at the beginning by an unseeded player—so be it.
But if the favorites survive the first two rounds, then that battle will be... a ton of people will tune into the stream starting from round 3.
Now, I don't like seeding by skill, simply because it introduces a subjective factor. If we had an official rating, we could seed based on that, but doing it by eye looks more like nepotism.

It's evident even from your list of seeded players—I dare assure you that, for example, Term would easily roll both Napalm and Vitalik in a match to 3 wins, partly because they have much less game practice under these specific rules—Napalm has been playing only on special occasions for over a year now, and Vitalik plays predominantly SoD.

Furthermore, I see nothing wrong with strong players starting to face each other in the first rounds; from a spectator's point of view, it's even a plus—there will be something to watch. And it won't distort the final result much; the probability of a top player making it into the prizes after a loss in round 1 remains quite good, simply because they will get weaker opponents in the next 2-3 rounds.

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