Heroes 6 - Discussion — General

Happy Life

15 years ago

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it will likely appeal more to a new generation of gamers who haven't played the previous installments; I don't think it will please or interest fans of the older games.

Yes, that's how it was for me with the third game. Oh, these young generations, raised on seven upgrades and both types of heroes.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

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reptile

15 years ago

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5p74

Please speak for yourself. I find every part interesting because each has its own unique charm. But every fan has their own favorite part!

I'm not claiming that everyone thinks this way; it's just my opinion. Maybe after I play the new Heroes, my opinion will change, but for now, I think this way. Even when comparing it to the fifth part, I was really looking forward to those heroes; they interested me even when I was looking at screenshots and videos (before the game was released). Now, I don't really feel like playing what I see. But this part will definitely have its fans, and for many, it might be the best part of the series, but only for those who haven't played the other parts, because, in my opinion, whichever part a person plays first will be their favorite. For me, for example, no matter how good the other parts are, the third is the best, and for someone else, it might be the first or second; it all depends on where they started.

Ment

15 years ago

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Of course, there is some truth in your words, reptile, but... The main problem with the new installments is that they sometimes like to get rid of the old and good, and I can't stand that. It wasn't the case with the fifth installment; they "based" it on the third and added something of their own. I like such things, so even though I started with the third, I really enjoyed the fifth. I still play both of these parts. But the sixth part clearly wants to distance itself from all the others, but it is not capable of offering anything in return that is more or less successful, so you are probably right about it.

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Ple-Sen

15 years ago

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But the sixth installment clearly wants to distance itself from all the others.

In general, this is a rather sensible approach. It's not always possible to maintain the series' traditions (the Warlords changed genres twice), and as a result, fans are dissatisfied. Here, the developers immediately stated that these are new heroes, so that fans don't come up with all sorts of things. Yes, the changes themselves are debatable (especially the reduction of resources, although everyone got used to the absence of oil in the third installment, I think they will get used to it here too), but that's a different question.

Nagan-4

15 years ago

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M-m-m... judging by the heated posts, were you arguing? That's a good sign when the game hasn't even been released yet, and the fans are already arguing – it means they care. And I'm not worried about the game; it will turn out well. As far as I remember, it's being made by Hungarians, right? They're some of the best chess players in the world, with strong teams in various intellectual tournaments, and they even invented the Rubik's Cube. :) Yes, they also enjoy Tokaji wine to expand their consciousness. :smile26: That's all I know about Hungary, but it's enough for me to patiently wait. :smile02:

But the sixth installment clearly wants to stand out from all the others.

Well, whether it's a continuation of the fifth or third game, fans would continue to play their version, and they would call the new one an evil clone.

Zybr

15 years ago

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The first part a person plays will likely become their favorite.

I started with the second one, but my favorite is the fourth. How is that possible? O_o

More likely out of curiosity. Like, "Let's see what kind of mess they've cooked up this time."

That's definitely true! Although, I was really looking forward to the fifth part at the time, and it turned out to be quite decent, a bit boring, but that's a matter of personal preference. As for the sixth part, I'm not really interested, I don't expect anything good.

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As far as I remember, it's being developed by Hungarians? They are among the best chess players in the world, with strong teams in various intellectual tournaments.

However, the sixth installment seems like a significant simplification. Of course, we'll see how it turns out in the end, but still...

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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Ment

15 years ago

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Nagan-4

Well, whether it was a continuation of the fifth or third game, fans would continue to play their version, and they would call the new one a malicious clone.

Not just a continuation, but an improvement, incorporating the best ideas and adding something new – that's what I advocate for. Let's move away from games and look at other applications that also have their sequels. For example, a browser. When a new browser is created, new features are added, and the old ones are not removed. Which is logical. If you add support for, say, flash, but remove html, then the browser will be, to put it mildly, deficient. In my opinion, this is how games should be approached.

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reptile

15 years ago

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Zybr

Started with the second one, but my favorite is the fourth. How is that possible? O_o

Well, I meant that, in general, at least I've met a lot of people who feel that way.

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NumpuT

15 years ago

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Nagan-4

I'm confident about the game; it will be good. As far as I remember, it's being developed by Hungarians, right? They are among the best chess players in the world, with strong teams in various intellectual tournaments. After all, they even created the Rubik's Cube. :)

But in my opinion, it's being made by black people who taught a dog tricks:D

Ranmaru Rei

15 years ago

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By the way, here's a review from one of the insiders about the January beta: http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.es/portal/index.php?module=HeroesVI&func=viewarticles&article=10&page=1
He complains that there are too many abilities for the creatures.
However, he said the same thing about King's Bounty at the time.
But there is some new and interesting information, although not much.

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5p74

15 years ago

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Ment

Of course, there is some truth in your words, reptile, but... the main problem with the new series is that they sometimes like to get rid of the old and good, and I can't stand that. It wasn't the case with the fifth installment; they "based" it on the third and added something of their own. I like such things, so even though I started with the third, I really liked the fifth. I still play both of these parts.

The fifth installment turned out to be pretty good; it seems that the developers tried their best to make it as close as possible to the third part, but there are quite a few cutbacks in the fifth compared to the third: this includes reducing magic and artifacts (including reducing the "doll" of the hero for artifacts), and only 5 slots for secondary skills (even if they are more extensive, but still... I think 6-7 would be just right), and many maps in the third seem more extensive than in the fifth!

But still, the fifth has many of its own advantages. So, as I said, each part has something of its own! And I hope the sixth will also have something interesting!

Ple-Sen

15 years ago

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and there are only 5 slots for secondary skills (even if they are more extensive, but still... I think 6-7 would be just right)

This is actually normal. There are also fewer skills, or rather, some of them were "absorbed" by others.

and many maps in the third game seem more extensive than in the fifth!

This, by the way, speaks in favor of the fifth game. Because matches with other players take place faster.

Zybr

15 years ago

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only 5 slots for secondary skills (even if they are more extensive, but still... I think 6-7 would be just right)

Considering that Heroes is still a game with an emphasis on online battles, or at least a game with a real opponent... it would be interesting to see how these 7 slots would be fully upgraded?))
Huge maps are good for drinking beer and relaxing, when you turn off your brain and just have fun at a leisurely pace of development.

reduction of magic

in what way? if you think a little, you can see that many spells have simply found their reflection in perks or creature abilities.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

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NumpuT

15 years ago

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Zybr

in what way? if you put a little effort into it, you can see that many spells are simply reflected in perks or creature abilities.

Learning hero skills costs Skill Points, which they earn each time they gain a new level.
So, if you learned to read, you can't learn a certain book until you can fly, or swim like a shark, or somehow gain a new level, and the higher your level, the harder it is for you to learn anything.

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5p74

15 years ago

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Zybr

in what way? if you put a little effort into it, you can see that many spells have simply found their reflection in perks or creature abilities.

How many good spells from the 3rd and 4th installments were not adopted in the 5th part: multiple retaliation, dragon strength, frenzy, first strike, cat reflexes, and others.

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