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#157
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In NickBond -___-
NickBond, and you're probably very tolerant, right?
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Drakkosha
*watching the drama unfold, enjoying the laughs, and eating popcorn*
Enough observing, Drakkosha. Say something, please.
 

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and you're probably very tolerant too, right?
aren't you? yuck, to be like that =\

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After the hardships of the Soviet system, people became addicted to money like a drug and can't stop.
As if living in poverty and standing in lines all day is better, right? lol.

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So what? Just because we're talking about it doesn't mean anything will change, but we're still talking, aren't we? ;)
 

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There are people who can control themselves and don't degenerate, and for such people, power like in the USSR is not needed. Unfortunately, most people are not like that; they cannot control themselves, they need someone to constantly be hitting them over the head, and perhaps a strong authority is needed for such people.

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Drakkoska
But why? I won't be building an army anyway.
For health or as a bribe?
Arandor
and you're probably very tolerant, right?
and you're not? yuck, to be like that =[/QUOTE]
A surprisingly subtle joke from Arandor, quite unexpected.
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#166
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In general, power is only needed to control the herd, the masses, and consumers, because such people don't know how to live a normal life on their own.

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Arandor
There are people who can control themselves and don't degenerate, and such people don't need power like in the USSR. Unfortunately, most people are not like that; they cannot control themselves and need to be constantly told what to do. Perhaps a strong authority is needed for such people.
That's correct. But statistics show that there are far fewer of them than one would like.
 

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NikBond

Sure, have your combat-ready army, I don't know who needs it, and it requires expenses that could be redirected to other areas...
But why force everyone into it? Why should I waste a year of my life in terribly uncomfortable conditions, with high physical exertion that will make me faint in the first 5 minutes, with moral pressure and interaction with this stupid rabble, from which I will get infected and become the same, or even worse?
I'm not against defending my country, but only if there is someone to defend against, if it is reasonable, and if there are conditions that support it.
But for some reason, all the developed Western countries that you constantly cite as examples have well-developed armed forces. Because a country that cannot ensure its own defense and independence has no place in the harsh world politics. Maybe you should exercise and not be a weakling so you don't faint? It's useful even without an army, what will you do if you encounter thugs in an alley? You also constantly use the word "rabble" in relation to those who ended up in the army, voluntarily or by conscription, although you yourself have never been in the army.

NikBond

There was a reason to maintain an army, because there was an enemy.
There was a non-aggression pact with Germany. No war was planned, and there are still enough enemies, like NATO and the USA, which are slowly surrounding us with their bases.
NikBond

I believe that there wasn't in the years of the War. People wanted to defend the country, not to satisfy their ego.
There wasn't during the war itself, but there was before and after. By the way, everyone was forced into the war, although of course many went voluntarily. Undemocratic, but effective.
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It's inhumane. I want to live in a humane and democratic country.
Democracy is a deception for hamsters so that they feel free. In reality, everywhere the government decides everything.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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For health or for a bribe?
In life.
А, вот почему.

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Arandor
In general, power is only needed to control the herd, the masses, and consumers, because these people don't know how to live normally on their own.
Are you in favor of anarchy? If you remove all forms of authority, the people will indeed degenerate into a mindless mob. No laws, no restrictions, do whatever you want. But in our country, control is needed not over the population, but over those in power, because they are committing lawlessness.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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Lol, that's what I'm saying, power is needed for such people so that they don't do things like that, and there are those who wouldn't do anything like that even without power and would live a normal, honest life.

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The army is also needed for the rabble (discipline, getting rid of bad habits, etc. - this is ideally), although it is almost never beneficial to them. Usually, it's the opposite; although they were already like that, they become even worse in the army. If a person is normal, they will remain so even after the army (if, of course, nothing happens there, not everyone's psyche can handle it). I had a cousin who served somewhere in the south, and he was fine. He ended up in a good place and returned almost the same. So, the point is... Strict control and the like are needed for most people because, on their own, they become who knows what and interfere with the lives of others, loaf around, drink, and their innate chaotic nature leads them to commit crimes. In the past, people were forced to work, and they would even visit their homes if someone skipped work. Such measures can be introduced for these types of people, but they are not needed for the rest. So, power is mainly needed to protect these groups of people from normal people and to control them. That's basically it.

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