Posts from Heroes 6 - Discussion

It's not a given that elemental schools are just chaos broken down into elements. I think the developers should understand that the difference should be in the essence of the spells, not the visual effect. By the way, the magic schools in the fifth game are the result of a deliberate move away from spells that looked different but were essentially the same in the third game.

In the fifth game, there were also plans, sometimes they had to be adjusted due to randomness, but not by more than a couple of perks.

I didn't quite understand the meaning of what was written. What does the visual effect have to do with it? And what spells in the third game were "different in appearance" and "the same in essence"?

Dividing into four
At the very beginning of the project, the idea arose to divide all spells according to the mechanism of their action (more details below). To clear our conscience, we, of course, carefully considered and systematically rejected other possible options. For example, we had to abandon the division of spells by schools of elements (remember Heroes of Might and Magic III). As you know, in that game there were four magical groups corresponding to air, fire, earth, and water. But what, in essence, was the difference between "fireball" (school of fire) and "lightning" (school of air)? Nothing! They had practically the same effect on the enemy; the difference lay only in the visual representation. And we, at our own risk, decided to go our own way, which, perhaps, will evoke associations with the fourth part of the series in a sophisticated reader.

One thing is the general development of a hero, another is a build planned out turn by turn.

This is the essence of old-school gamers as it is.

Some strange person wrote this. It seems they haven't played Heroes 3 and don't know that Lightning and Arrow are two completely different spells. At least because they belong to different schools. They also don't know that in Heroes 3, there are various creatures with immunity to different schools of magic. This alone should be a distinguishing factor. Otherwise, I could say that, for example, Magic Fist and Ice Bolt have the same effect, only visually different.

No, not all of it. I've tried playing the fifth installment many times. Yes, it worked. But it's very boring and uninteresting. The game doesn't grab you, but Heroes 3 has something special that captivated a huge number of people at the time. I still play "Heroes 3" from time to time because it's a truly turn-based strategy at the highest level. If any other similar game can compare to it, it's only "Warcraft 3," but that's already a different genre of strategy, so the comparison is inappropriate.
So, don't put labels on it; I just don't like the fifth installment in the series. But the sixth one gives some hope...

Sometimes I think it would have been better if "Heroes" had ended with John... At least the spirit of the game would have been preserved.

Also, he doesn't know that in the third game, there are various creatures with immunity to different schools of magic.

The inability to accept something new in the heroes, which has already appeared in many other games and has become stale.

For me, the first games were the fifth installment; I could spend the whole day playing it back then, and it really captivated me (and I still play it sometimes). Then I tried playing the third game, but it didn't appeal to me at all. If I had gotten hooked on the third game first and then moved on to the fifth, it might have been the other way around; it depends on what you get used to first, and that's what seems better. Maybe I won't like the sixth game because I'm used to the fifth, but for now, I'm optimistic.

Did you check with Infomameter?

Although Chaos did split the elements, and it wasn't entirely clear why.

After the first three campaigns of Heroes of Might and Magic III, I didn't really follow the plot.

But the Magic Fist and Ice Block really have the same effect and differ only visually, and that's what, in my opinion, needs to be changed.

So maybe we'll have to learn one spell at a time :(.

It's not a given that all four schools will be combat-oriented, and only combat-oriented. So, it's quite normal that they were divided this way, considering these elemental dragons of yours.

What role did you play? Connected campaigns are only in The Shadow of Death. In the other two parts, the campaigns are separate stories, just like in the original Heroes of Might and Magic 4.