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Alt-upgrades undoubtedly diversified the tactics, and I liked the idea, but the tragedy is that they were removed, or at least I don't see them. Worse still, there are only five Factions in the game, but more should be added in the add-ons, and perhaps they will implement alt-upgrades as well.
And what exactly do you dislike about the Papuan orcs? In Ashan, they are island dwellers, so it's no surprise that some feathers were added to their "look." Aztec shamans, in my opinion, look quite harmonious.
tolkinit
In my view, this is the only explanation. To defend a single point of view so zealously without providing any arguments :smile32:.
Avatar got scared of the political unrest on HeroesWorlde and bailed.
:D :smile54:
NikBond
15 years ago
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I'm not a troll; I belong to the human race.
I'm a Tolkien fan, to some extent.
I want to hear arguments that support these words.
I already provided reasonable arguments in the orc thread about why Papua New Guineans don't fit the orc aesthetic.
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What exactly don't you like about orc-Papua New Guineans?
Okay, I'll admit it. I don't like them because they're not the orc-Mongols from Heroes 5, with all the implications, which I liked so much.
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Here's what I want to say: it's original, unique, and sets Heroes apart from other games, but it can't be done that way, you see, it just can't. There have to be canons. The idea of orcs is a mixture of the infinite freedom of demons, which is not infinite in orcs, but limited by a certain nobility of humans, from whom they originated. You could say that orcs live "according to the code," unwritten but clear to all, based on freedom and strength. Their strength is also different; it's not the dictatorship and absolute monarchy of demons, but their own. And the steppe, with its boundless expanses, perfectly embodies freedom, while the harsh conditions of the taiga even better express strength and endurance.
But what "ideology" is there in Papua New Guinea? Nothing is left of freedom; only strength remains, the survival of the fittest, linked to cannibalism.
That's what I don't want: nothing fundamentally experimental from the game. No, I don't want Heroes 5 in new graphics, but I do want an ideological, logical continuation of the series, of course with new features, but ones that fit the style and idea of the game. Orc-Papua New Guineans don't fit.
Here, it's logical and adequate.
korrag
15 years ago
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Orcs are fine, and the fact that you don't like them is your problem. They shouldn't always be the same! If you, as a Tolkien fan, dislike Heroes 6 so much, why are you on this forum?
NikBond
15 years ago
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If you don't like Heroes 6 so much, why are you on this forum?
Haha, lol what? What do Heroes 6 have to do with this? In Heroes 5, the Orcs are excellent, one of the best factions. They are a great mix of ideas, style, balance, beauty, and practicality. And the fact that I don't like the Orcs is NOT my problem, but the problem of the developers. I'm sure there are many people who don't like the new Orcs either.
ahaha, what the heck? What do Heroes 6 have to do with this? In Heroes 5, the Orcs are excellent, one of the best factions. They represent a great mix of ideas, style, adequacy, beauty, and practicality. And the fact that I don't like the Orcs is NOT my problem, but the problem of the developers. I'm sure there are many people who don't like the new Orcs either.
Indeed, how dare the developers change the Orcs' style without consulting user NikBond from the transcontinental HeroesWorld portal?! On the topic - there are plenty of people who liked the Orcs, and since the style will not change anyway, they are in the winning position. It's easier to accept everything as it is and leave the topic of appearance, as it doesn't depend on us.
Indeed, how dare the developers change the Orcs' style without consulting user NikBond from the transcontinental HeroesWorld portal?! Regarding the topic – there are many people who liked the Orcs, and since the style won't change anyway, they are in a winning position. It's easier to accept everything as it is and drop the topic of appearance, as it doesn't depend on us.
The idea that nothing depends on us is the position of a weak person. How can you say that the style won't change anyway? If people don't like it, it will cause losses. If the "Papuans" (referring to the new Orc design) don't appeal to the majority, they will be removed.
1) Yes. In terms of meaning, yes. Because I've said it a hundred times, the Sorceress's castle represented "Good" magic, which is what mages do now. Counter-question: give me an example of a fantasy book BEFORE Tolkien?
BUT this doesn't make them mages; the Sorceresses in Heroes 1 are more related to the Rampart, Nature, and other factions. Other people have already given an example, so there's no point in giving it again...
If people don't like it, it will cause losses. If the majority don't like the Papuans, they will be removed.
Well, that's understandable, but the developers themselves decide what and how to do, and it depends little on us...
What percentage is this?
0%, the infometer doesn't lie.
NikBond
15 years ago
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Well, that's obvious, but it's up to the developers to decide what and how to do, and we have little influence on that...
Well, duh, if nothing is done, nothing will change.
BUT that doesn't make them mages; sorceresses in Heroes 1 are more related to the factions of Rampart, Nature, etc. An example has already been given, so there's no point in repeating it...
Facepalm. She embodies good magic. In Heroes 5, mages do that. But never mind, what am I saying, it's like talking to a brick wall.
Facepalm. She embodies good magic. In Heroes 5, that's what mages do. But never mind, I'm just talking to a brick wall.
*remembers how mages with dark and chaos magic slaughtered everyone, while the Necromancer was summoning creatures* Of course, mages are very good :3
Magnus
15 years ago
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A new screenshot and artwork featuring Orcs have been released. The Orc artwork is available in the corresponding section.
Happy Life
15 years ago
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I don’t care about the graphics.
Победитель
15 years ago
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Yes, the graphics are nicer than in "Heroes of Might and Magic V". Nothing shines through, and there are no "transparent" objects. However, the mountains look a bit strange in the new screenshot. They remind me of deserts.
By the way, there's an emblem above the hero here :). It seems that heroes were indeed stationed near the old artifact. But why are there so many of them :confused:?
Regarding the cyclops art: the improved version looks better than the one in the leaked photos. But its back still reminds me of the relief of Shi'o :D.
Ment
15 years ago
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The Cyclops has already been showcased; they've discovered America...
