Posts from philosophy

The Avenger is a champion of justice who tries to punish the villain.
Or something like that.

Don't jump to conclusions. A noble goal doesn't necessarily mean that the actions are also noble. Have you watched "Sin City"? Remember the episode about Marv. Or, again, the Holy Inquisition. The goal was indeed noble, but at least seventy percent of the people they burned were innocent.

Don't jump to conclusions. A noble goal doesn't necessarily mean that the actions taken to achieve it are also noble. Did you watch "City of Sins"? Remember the episode about Marv? Or, again, the Holy Inquisition. The goal was indeed noble, but at least seventy percent of the people they burned were innocent.

Exactly. You're right about the Inquisition. In reality, it was a brutal persecution. They burned entire families, even for something as trivial as a daughter being beautiful, because it was believed that no woman should be more beautiful than the Mother of God. So, beware the Holy Inquisition!

Don't jump to conclusions. A noble goal doesn't necessarily mean that the actions are also noble. Did you watch "City of Sins"? Remember the episode about Marfa? Or again, the Holy Inquisition. The goal was indeed noble, but at least seventy percent of the people they burned were innocent.

Despite all its flaws, the Inquisition achieved its main goal: to eradicate heresy as much as possible. During their time, the official existence of the Church of Satan was impossible, as well as other sects that had a harmful influence on humanity.

If I understand correctly, you're saying that the ends justify the means, no matter what the goal or the means used to achieve it?

I think you're trying to say that the ends justify the means, right? No matter what the goal is and no matter what the means are?

No, I wanted to say that despite all its flaws, the Inquisition also had a positive aspect...

Of course, they had good intentions, but you can't just burn anyone! The Inquisition is already here, after all!:D
Every cloud has a silver lining, but here, there's much more bad than good.

Viz, let me explain my opinion about the "forgiving avenger."
Well, let's start with the fact that there are, at best, 1% of such people on this sinful planet. And these are PEOPLE... If a person has found the strength to FORGIVE... This is an ACT, because it is difficult to FORGIVE... And the rest will not forgive... Revenge will become a part of their soul; they will take revenge or die...
FORGIVENESS (complete forgiveness; everything else is an illusion...) requires inner strength.

Thank you, Tegnro. Now I'm starting to understand you, like a dark elf.

I'm afraid I might say something rude or offend someone, but I don't believe that a person can truly make revenge the goal of their life, their entire life. Yes, one can live with the idea of revenge for a day, two days, a week; someone might even live with it for a month. But if a person lives their whole life, year after year, for one goal, especially such a, excuse me, vile one, then it's called paranoia. Avengers, I think, only exist in Hollywood movies. Zorro is definitely from the movies:), and Robin Hood is half legend (consider it medieval cinema:), half a real outlaw. Here, revenge is somewhat softened.

Sylvanis, they do exist...
Humanity despises them; as you rightly said, they are paranoid, but they are there. They should be pitied (a vengeful person CAN be made to forget their vengeance and be healed)... And vengeance, again, can be different – for family (the scariest and MOST JUSTIFIED vengeance – these people can be understood), blood revenge (but I don't understand these people at all, I just can't), for shattered ideals (these are paranoid romantics:()...

Or the Chechens. Why not avengers? However, I don't want to look at people like Chechen terrorists, let alone feel sorry for them! Yes, Russian military forces invaded their territory, but what did the civilian population do to deserve this?:mad: In this situation, they are no better than the Americans who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki; they dropped it and left, but the Japanese are still dealing with the aftermath of that nuclear mess. And the Chechens don't even spare children, either during the war or now. They'll meet you at night and kill you (figuratively, of course).

Listen, Beslan is 20 minutes away by minibus. And believe me, everyone here knows that there were no Chechens in that school; there were Ingush, an Arab mercenary, and an "Ossetian." And those whose minds have been poisoned are not avengers, but rather thugs, zombies, and aggressors.

I'm sorry, I didn't know that. I offer my deepest apologies. However, it was Chechens who blew up residential buildings in Moscow. This doesn't mean that all Chechens are evil; I simply meant Moscow, not North Ossetia, and the dozens of people who were killed while they were SLEEPING during the explosion!:mad: Imagine: you're sleeping peacefully, having dreams... Suddenly, you're awakened by a deafening roar, you barely have time to wake up, and then... How can you call them anything else after that??:mad::mad: You'

Wiz, what about loving your neighbor? The Chechens can be understood. They want to live independently, to live their own way. But they have oil, and that's why Moscow won't let Chechnya go. The situation with Siberia is similar. And if we don't want to be subjugated? If we want to be treated like human beings? And for the freedom of an entire nation, one can make great sacrifices. Of course, I wouldn't go around killing women and children, but how do you all know how much the Chechens have been hurt? Maybe, for them, this is the least they can do. IMHO.

I understand everything perfectly, but first of all: there is no need to generalize. What does "Moscow won't let go" mean? None of the Muscovites are holding "you" back. The question should be asked not of us, but of Putin, who is actually originally from St. Petersburg.
Secondly: I am well aware of "love thy neighbor," but I cannot react calmly to such things! I don't know if this is a virtue or a flaw of mine.
Thirdly: there is the phrase "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." I don't recall any instance where Russian militants blew up sleeping Chechen children along with their parents and homes. But that our 18-year-old soldiers were tortured to death there—that I remember perfectly. Not because I only remember the evil that the Chechens inflicted on us—ours are no angels either—but I am certain: give terrorists free rein and they will carry out a genocide against us! Russia already has such an opportunity, but even though Russia did not carry out any genocide, the terrorists themselves earned the hatred of Muscovites for their compatriots.