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If you want to withdraw as a sign of protest against the rejection of Predsa, that's your business, just please don't involve me in this :)

I would probably withdraw anyway – but with you, no matter how you look at it, the situation is mirrored.
Predsa is officially accused of not finishing a tournament (I haven't found any other obvious accusations).
And in the same thread, there's a withdrawal from the tournament... if, as a result of this sluggish discussion, this application is canceled, I will only be happy for the tournament and for the players, but it will not affect the decision that has been made :cool:

but with you, no matter how you look at it, the situation is a mirror image.

Not a mirror image. I asked the organizers for PERMISSION to withdraw – they didn’t allow it and explained that there was a reason to continue. Of course, under these conditions, I decided to continue, and your "weak flame" has absolutely nothing to do with it, believe me :)

It's not a mirror match. I asked the organizers for PERMISSION to participate – they didn't allow it and explained that there was a reason to continue. Of course, under these conditions, I decided to continue, and your "weak flame" has absolutely nothing to do with it, believe me :)

What?! Didn't Preds warn in advance that, due to Kingisepp – i.e., a heroic event that surpasses all online tournaments in level and significance for the Heroes world – he wouldn't be able to continue?! :eek:

Attention!
In group W, there will be a replacement: instead of wowa, StickyFingaz (Necropolis) will play - 465786677. We will update the table with the changes a little later, but for now, coordinate and play.

Wic (red, Inferno, Fiona) def StickyFingaz (blue, Necro, Galthran) @ Balance, 111

The coin landed on my side...

We chose all the restarts, including many due to the lack of a path to the village. As a result, I got a total advantage (3 Inferno and a lot of hiding spots), and Sticky lost a lot in the maxigame and decided not to continue.

Thanks for the restarts!

I wish there was at least one more decent report to read.

12.09.2010, Dubrovin Pavel (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def Hermit (Blue, Inferno, Pyrrhus, Pyrrhus) 8mm6a 143

During the first week - roads were slow, Army was normal, 27 Marks available, no external dwellings on the respawn actually, but I spotted a Horse external dwelling in the Transit Zone near the Village, so I'm playing. Money was a bit tight, but Horses were in the Stronghold, and there was a Dungeon village. The Horses were behind a Crowd of Trolls, and some resources were guarded; I decided not to risk it.

During the second week - external dwelling, Medusa nest, Naga-Bank (mini), 2 Mini Griffin Conservatories, near the Dungeon village I take a Hive on 8, and find a Dragon Utopia there.

During the third week - Mini-Dragon Utopia (but with Earth Magic), I get crushed in the Main zone, Basic Earth magic, a Dragon Utopia is 2 moves from the Capital; unfortunately, it's a Max one, 18 Champs, and since I had 18 Crosses (no money to buy Griffins) they might not have managed it, so I wait for growth, also a Mini-Griffin Conservatory, Golden Bow, +1+1 Speed.

During the fourth week - Max Dragon Utopia (Air Magic, Boots of Levitation, Helmet +4+4, Necklace), Earth magic progressed, using Air I spot Volodya's Castle in about 1 move and capture it (Stronghold). Then Vova concedes victory to me.

Thanks for the game!

12.09.2010, Dubrovin Pavel (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def Hermit (Blue, Inferno, Pyrrhus, Pyrrhus) 8mm6a 143

On the first week - roads were slow, Army was normal, 27 Markovs are there, no external dwellings on the respawn actually, but I spotted a Horse external dwelling in the Pass Zone near the Village, so I'm playing. Money was a bit tight, but Horses settled in the Stronghold, Dungeon village. The Horses were behind a Crowd of Trolls, and resources were guarded; I didn't want to risk it.

On the second week - external dwelling, Medusa nest, Naga-Bank (mini), 2 mini Griffin Conservatories, near the Dungeon village I take the Hive on 8, find a Dragon Utopia there.

On the third week - Mini-Dragon Utopia (but Earth Magic), I get beaten in the Main, Base Earth, 2 moves from the Capital is a Dragon Utopia; pity it's Max size, 18 Champs with 18 Crosses (didn't have money to buy Griffins) might not have managed, waiting for growth, also Mini-Griffin Conservatory, Golden Bow, +1+1 Speed.

On the fourth week - Max Dragon Utopia (Air Magic, Boots of Levitation, Helmet +4+4, Necklace), Earth progressed, with air I spot Volodya's Castle in about 1 move, capture it (Stronghold). Then Vova concedes victory to me.

Thanks for the game!

It happened. Respawns were bare. No money... On the first week 1-6 in the stronghold, but 3 heroes and I can't buy anyone at all, on the second 4... No tempo whatsoever. The game just wasn't working. Several times I wanted to surrender, but still dragged it out to the fourth, then surrendered...

Thanks for the game.

LeBron (blue, Inferno, Ignat, Drakon) def Van (red, Stronghold, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) Jebus, 132

Vanya suggested playing Jebus on WT or scuffling on SoD, and after thinking it over, I decided that scuffling on SoD would be more advantageous, but lately I've been enjoying rolling Jebus, so we play that, without experience/bank/tax/morale without the Inferno patch

the start was mediocre, from external dwellings you can only see dogs, but there is a Dragon Fly Hive, wings behind the Cerberi, and a GO with a pretty decent 20+ Devils
For the main hero, I decided to take either Ignat or Drakon, but the former got a Ballista on level-up, while Drakon got a quite playable Earth magic - just right for breaking through the GO :)
I wanted to build 1-6 in Castle if I didn't see a Devil dwelling, but a small misplay in the game forced me to build Devils so as not to lose too much tempo
on the first week, I fought several difficult battles, including beating 48 Cerberi with the scraps of my army after a bad attempt at taking an Efreet dwelling (I sacrificed Imps out of stupidity and -40) I scraped through, but I took the wings and played very tempo-wise on days 116 and 117, eating up a pretty good part of the map, and most importantly, I revealed the 5th magic hat!!!
a plan immediately forms to break the GO with 1 Sultan and 2 casts of Armageddon, especially since I have a Breastplate +3 and a Necklace +3+3
right at the start of the second week, I eat several Dragon Fly Hives, quickly chop up 60 Demons, and according to the planned scenario, I hit the GO with 1 Efreet :)
behind the Efreets were positioned 20+ Bears, Drakon has 50 mana and something clicked in my head that the Armageddon cost was 25, so I attacked, but Armageddon turned out to cost 30, and in the end I'm left with one Efreet against 12 Bears; after flipping through the spellbook, I found life-saving Elementals for 20 and won the fight with them
On the same turn, Drakon, who had leveled up Scouting, breaks from his starting position for mana since the central castles aren't visible; the scout heroes on the wings comfortably cut down small units into Demons and take Dragon Fly Hives - ducks >40, Demons >60
After that, Drakon picks up a couple of relics and takes a Dragon Utopia, stats jump sharply to 20+, still no sign of the opponent in the middle of the second week
Next, I finally find the central tower and paint it with the main hero, meanwhile clearing 3 Pandora's Boxes with 51 Bone Dragons and 35 Giants)) They gave me 10 Nagas+20 Genies and 20k experience; Drakon expert Fire, Water, and Earth magic, 450+ mana
Then came an awful brain-fart that could have easily cost the game, making a Town Portal without leaving Drakon enough MP for the next Town Portal and leaving the army on a scout hero; the same turn, Tyraxor pops out and makes me nervous - although if Tyraxor had attacked the scout, I'm not sure I would have lost :)
after that, it's simple, accept the growth of the 3rd week, pick up the Elixir, chop more Demons with it, and this awful machine has nothing left to oppose it
thank you for the game!

I saw a comment in my database here :) bRitvo4kA, what a disgrace of a report. I'll explain it to those who are particularly slow: the essence of Balance lies in who manages to get more chocolate or who manages to screw over their opponent. It's a game of restarts, and in spirit, it's somewhat reminiscent of a game of chance. Skill plays a very small role here. It depends more on whether you explore the map after it's generated or not; doing so significantly increases your chances of winning, much more so than on other map templates. Ideally, if the skill levels of the opponents are at least slightly above average and not too different, then after the start of the game on Balance, you should give a save to a third party to review so that they can immediately say who should concede. Just to avoid wasting time. Or, as an alternative (if the game is on SoD), you can hope that the player with the better starting position will mess up on a poorly rolled morale. That's why, after the initial game, I immediately suggested that Stick just flip a coin and not torture his brain and sense of aesthetics with this pointless exercise. He refused. Well, and the coin landed on my side. Giving a humanitarian restart in this situation, for the reasons described above, is absurd – if you won through restarts, then just claim the victory. If it were a normal map template, I would have given a humanitarian restart or an auto-win without any problems.

You’d better tell me how you managed to live such a life that you feel the need to cheat.

you should rather say how you managed to live such a life that you're balancing things out for yourself :)

Yeah, I thought Stick would play decently with Haven. Maybe mirror match or something with Academy. But he insisted, so I did it out of spite...

But if we think about it rationally, Jebus definitely should have been removed, Necropolis looks much more confident than Inferno. Playing against Necropolis with Inferno also seemed a bit risky, although it's easier than against Jebus. But on Balance, the chances are more even, you have to rely mainly on your own troops, which are more convenient for Inferno in the endgame.

And the fact that Stick probably didn't play Balance enough also played a role. When I choose, I try not so much to pick a comfortable faction for myself, but to pick an uncomfortable one for my opponent.

LeBron (blue, Inferno, Ignat, Drakon) def Van (red, Stronghold, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) Jebus, 132
It was a good game, thanks for playing.

Recorded games:
10.09.2010 Javdet (blue, Rampart, Kirq, Kirq) def Hermit (red, Inferno, Pyrrhus, Pyrrhus) 8mm6a 122 +++
10.09.2010 rebellious(red, Tower, Neela, Neela) def RiMpel2(blue, Conflux, random, Ignissa), Jebus Cross, 114 +++
11.09.2010 FireToSky (blue, Inferno, Marius) def Wlk777 (red, Fort, Alkin), см-ка, 121 +++
10.09.2010 AYMAN (blue, Rampart, Kirq, Kirq) def Van (red, Stronghold, Gretchin, Gunar) balance, 124 +++
10.09.2010 OUTLAW(red,Rampart,Kirq,Kirq) def RiMpel2(blue,Conflux,random,Erdamon,Grondar), 2SM4d(3), 1-1-7 +++
10.09.2010 Mizrael(blue, Castle, Caitlin, Crag Hack) def LeBron(red, Inferno, Marius, Marius) 8mm6a 132 +++
11.09.2010 numOne (red, Barbarian, Crag, Crag) def rebellious (blue, Tower, Neela, Neela), 2SM4d(3), 121 +++
11.09.2010 RomarioGrom (red, Fortress, random, Luna, Luna) def DubrovinPoll (blue, Castle, Valiska, Crag) 2SM4d(3) 124 +++
11.09.2010 Kluka (red, Rampart, Kirq, Tant) def Wlk777 (blue, Swamp, Vistan, Vistan) 2sm4d(3) 147 +++
11.09.2010 Gomunguls(Blue,Dungeon,Shakti,Shakti)def Legionerdv(Red,Castle,Valeska,Valeska)2sm4d(3), 1.4.5 +++
11.09.2010 Mizrael(red, Castle, Caitlin, Tyris) def Van(blue, Stronghold, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) balance 125 +++
11.09.2010 Дубровин Павел (Blue, Castle, Valeska, Tyris) def Javdet (Red, Rampart, Kirq, Kirq) Jebus Cross 127 +++
12.09.2010 Дубровин Павел (Red, Castle, Valeska, Valeska) def Hermit (Blue, Inferno, Pyrrhus, Pyrrhus) 8mm6a 143 +++
12.09.2010 LeBron (blue, Inferno, Ignat, Drakon) def Van (red, Stronghold, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) Jebus, 132 +++

Unconfirmed:
12.09.2010 Wicc (red, Inferno, Fiona) def StickyFingaz (blue, Necropolis, Galthran) Balance, 111

Leaderboard updated.

A renewed request to all players - please review the rules!!! We have made some changes compared to the previous tournament to increase motivation for those who lost their first games. It is possible to advance from the group even from 4th place.

12.09.2010 Wicc (red, Inferno, Fiona) def StickyFingaz (blue, Necro, Galthran) Balance, 111