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Posts from Poll regarding changes to the AK regulations.
Don't mistake wishful thinking for reality. The organizer runs the tournament based on the recommendations of the Tournament Committee (I had a link somewhere). They create the rules, ensure they are followed, record the technical results if necessary, conclude the tournament, and submit a request to the admin for awarding prizes. They can appeal to the Tournament Committee for help in resolving a controversial situation, just like any other user. The Tournament Committee can offer the organizer some recommendations during the tournament, but they have no right to influence or change their decisions. And please, stop complaining about this; accept it as an axiom.
Don't mistake wishful thinking for reality. The Tournament Committee was created to resolve controversial situations in tournaments, and the vast majority of Vol'da players supported this (and not just once). So, in controversial situations, the Tournament Committee has more authority than the organizer, and the voting in this thread confirms that again. The wishes of the majority of forum participants become reality. So, accept this as an axiom. The participation of, for example, a World Champion in a tournament is undoubtedly a controversial situation.
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
Lider1
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childish outbursts from individual people – “I don’t want to/won’t do anything.”
Nonsense. The scheme is easily circumvented.
I read a bit, and it’s just funny. Some are trying to assert themselves, like, “What do I care about your AK? I don’t give a damn, I’m the coolest here, and I’ll handle everything myself.” Of course, I have a few other guys here who are also incredibly cool and don’t give a damn about your AK. I don’t answer to anyone, etc. (It actually reminds me of puberty in teenagers and conflicts with their parents.)
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Others who want to impose: “There’s this organ on the forum – it’s called AK, and everyone should obey it.” And the echoes go hypnotically, “Everyone – obey, everyone – obey, everyone – obey AK” (read with pauses and gasps) :D And some even hear, “Everyone should obey Dubrovin” :D (and the sound doesn’t come from the AK members themselves).
What I want to say:
Just calm down!
AK was created to resolve controversial situations; let the players decide when to seek its help. Its help is actually needed only once every six months when a big scandal arises. Like Britva-Valenok, and the rest of the time, AK lives in the shadows. Someone has to clean up the mess. But this happens rarely.
But no, they’ve created this whole epic, “I don’t need it; I assert myself without AK (or with AK),” and others, “You must, are obliged, must obey, beg,” and so on. As a result, we have a whole series, AK on the forum, which lasts constantly like Santa Barbara!
So much nonsense about this AK. Forget about it! When it’s needed, we’ll turn to it. Why pour this garbage non-stop, whether it’s needed or not; whether I obey or not, and whether I assert myself?
Those who voted FOR – it’s needed for them. Those who voted NO are free. Go ahead, relax, ignore it, and stop messing around.
Isn’t it clear? I don’t know.
Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/ За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
to Lider1 I largely agree; I'm tired of this fuss around the AK. And the AK mostly does its job quietly. I just wish they wouldn't put pressure on the organizer, but it seems they aren't doing that anyway. Saying "I don't care" was perhaps a bit harsh.
Regarding attempts to assert oneself – I hope you're not talking about me; Dr. Volk has long diagnosed me with megalomania. I can even afford not to respond to his posts (and now Hermit's too); it's pointless to try to convince them anyway.
Secondly, Dubrovin is artificially inflating his reputation. So that later he can proudly say, "90% of my forum proposals were accepted, and who are you?" People won't remember that 80% of these proposals were as meaningless as this question, and real initiatives were approved in only half of the cases.
This kind of statistical manipulation is also actively used in big politics. Simple people believe in the magic of numbers...
The point is that flooding the forum with votes is not a good thing in itself. Therefore, the people who voted "yes" indirectly supported Dubrovin's initiative and gave him more enthusiasm to come up with new and new polls. And if, say, they had collectively voted "no," he would have thought about whether it was worth coming up with such nonsense again.
Yura, I am flattered by your attention, of course, and your insight into what I will proudly say is simply impressive.:) Thank you for the promotion, keep it up!
By the way. If this change comes into effect, what will happen to the tournament organizer who allows a player with a Cheating Matchmaking Cheat (CMC) to participate?
Nothing... The tournament will simply be declared invalid. No rewards will be awarded, appeals to the Arbitration Committee (AK) in this tournament will not be considered, and nothing will be added to the rating. People will just write something on the forum, and that's it (until the moderators delete it as spam)... If such a decision is made to not allow players with CMC in tournaments, I won't participate in such "tournaments"... it's like everyone is just playing for fun, and that's it...
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
They will just write something on the forum (until the moderators delete it as spam)...
You can't just take over the cache; he's a moderator himself and will restore things. But there are more moderators in the AK :D. So, let's stock up on popcorn ;)
By the way. If the change comes into effect, what awaits the tournament organizer who allows a player with a Competitive Matchmaking Cheat (CMCC) to participate?
The question is, what is more important for the Resource – to adhere to the unified standard established for all Tournament Organizers on the World of Xeen, or to grant the Organizer the right to independently decide on whether to continue the participation (allow/disallow) of a Player with CMCC in the Tournament.
If the change is adopted, it is assumed that the Tournament Organizer must exclude the Player with CMCC from the Tournament.
С истиной где-то рядом...
Лето 2010.
SpiriTT
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Wow, you guys are amazing. Water is water. Let's do some calculations. In Kesh's tournament, there are about 30 people, in Dirty's, there are really 60 people, and I have 24. In total, there are 100+ people. The concentration of various small, but controversial situations in my tournament (it's easiest for me to manage my own) is in the tens. I don't think it's much different for the other guys. You're saying that tournaments should be run by AK? So, these 7 people should judge dozens of cases without sleep or rest, and sort them out? What's the point of having an organizer then? Every tournament has a judge. If these two can't handle it, then it's the organizer who should contact AK! There shouldn't be any monopoly. AK's intervention is necessary when they are contacted, or it is mandatory if the situation has gotten out of control.
And if AK starts putting pressure on the organizers, it will turn out that AK will have to run the tournaments itself, in addition to all its other work.
This is if we don't take into account unofficial fan tournaments or team tournaments.
I don't understand the reaction of the Tournament Organizers. One of the goals of the Arbitration Committee (AC) is to help Tournament Organizers resolve controversial situations.
The decision of the authorized structure of Volod (AC) to award a player the title of Champion of Champions and, as a result, the Organizer's removal of that player from the Champion of Champions tournament, I didn't think would cause such disapproval among the Tournament Organizers.
The question is whether it is more important for the Resource to adhere to the unified standard established for all Tournament Organizers on Volde, or to grant the Organizer the right to independently decide on whether to continue the participation (allow/disallow) of a Player with a Clash of Heroes ban in the Tournament.
If the change is adopted, it is assumed that the Tournament Organizer must exclude the Player with a Clash of Heroes ban from the Tournament.
adhere to the unified standard established for all Tournament Organizers on Volde. But there aren't that many votes, so it might not be adopted yet...
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
Wlk777
