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I can agree with many things, but never with this! It's the same as saying that everyone has the same skill in poker, but some people just get better cards.

Or, in football, everyone plays the same, it's just that Ronaldo, Zidane, and Messi get balls that are more perfectly round, and the goals are wider :D
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At the last meeting in N-sk, they discussed the games of some players. They talked about ATG and how, in one game, he captured a Hive, and they couldn't understand how he managed to achieve such minimal losses. It was practically the minimum possible. Later, they found a setup that allowed him to do it. It only evoked admiration.
Please provide more details about the situation: the hero's skills, magic, army, and the size of the Hive.
In general, I doubt that capturing a Hive is easier than breaking through its defenses in most cases. Capturing a Hive is just a chaotic mess, with little room for tactics.
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Catch and Darth, you don't play online very often, so you won't understand my point.
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Please provide more details about the situation: hero skills, magic, army, and hive size.
I haven't seen the save file. I only heard the story. That was enough for me.
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Or in football, everyone plays the same, it's just that Ronaldo, Zidane, and Messi get balls that are more perfectly round, and the goals are wider :D
Oh, you're wrong. They just happen to be in the right place at the right time when the ball comes to them, and the goalkeeper simply doesn't have time to catch it.

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Catch and Darth, you don't play online enough, so you don't understand my point.
I may not play online much, but I know how skills improve, and the algorithms for improvement are practically identical in different areas. The point is that QUALITY is better than quantity.
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I haven't seen the save file. I only heard the story. That was enough for me.
It's cheap.
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I haven't seen that save. I only heard the story. That was enough for me.
When our "mega-father" was still active on the forums, he gave an example of taking Maxul with 4 champions and a "small feast" (which deals significantly more damage than those horses =)) - and the losses he mentioned were exactly the same as those of some average player on their first attempt. Dozens of people on the forums could replicate that battle with very similar or even lower losses, so there's no need to exaggerate the skill required to take the Hive.
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quality is better than quantity
I confirm,
as I am studying "Quality Management". In absolutely any field and at any time, quality plays a crucial role! Even when our ancestors were just hunting mammoths, etc., they knew (for example) that the better (i.e., the more qualitatively) they shaped it or split the stone as needed to make a spearhead, the higher the chance of killing a larger animal, etc.;)
Just saying...
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играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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What?
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Your opinion on game situations in general, and this one in particular.
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You are offering rumors as solid arguments.
Heroes is a game where everything can be verified in practice.
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Regarding that Hive. I was also nearby that evening (or night) and heard what the issue was. In reality, taking the Hive was very difficult, which is why the opponent couldn't repeat the operation. But the point was that a clever setup with a small group of snakes was made (the opponent didn't immediately notice this in the save file), and with that, everything worked out beautifully. As for Catch's opinion. Even though it contradicts mine, for me, it carries much more weight than half of the active online players.
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Dirty_Player
Regarding that Hive. I was also nearby that evening (or night) and heard what the issue was. In reality, taking the Hive was very difficult, which is why the opponent couldn't repeat the operation. But the point was that a clever setup with a small group of snakes was made (the opponent didn't immediately notice this in the save), and with that, everything worked out beautifully.

And regarding Catch's opinion. Even though it contradicts mine, for me, it's worth much more than the opinions of half of the active online players.
Does anyone have the save file? I'd like to take a look.
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You are offering rumors as solid arguments.
Heroes is a game where everything can be verified in practice.
I'm not talking about solid arguments here. I used this example to illustrate that many players learn from the save files of players like Alex, while from the save files of some "equally skilled players," they only extract the art of making phenomenally accurate blind jumps.
If you think that people come to a real-life meeting with a bunch of game save files and then spend a long time dissecting them, you are mistaken. Usually, there is lively communication, an exchange of opinions, and this exchange clearly showed how people relate to whom and how, in terms of gameplay. That's enough for me.
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I haven't seen the save file. I only heard the story. That was enough for me.
An example at the level of primitive mythology. What can be learned from this?

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