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What format would be best for conducting the SECOND stage of the tournament?
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a single-elimination tournament system, i.e., the loser is immediately eliminated from the tournament
41.8% 23 votes
Full double elimination, i.e., a participant is eliminated from the tournament after losing twice (details and an example can be found in the thread)
58.2% 32 votes
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~no1_knows_me~(Blue,Stronghold,Gurnisson,Gurnisson) def Erdem(Red,Tower,Nella,Nella) 2SM4d(3), 2.2.3


The start wasn't great. Not a single external dwelling except for the wolves. But near the Castle there is a Dragon Utopia and sweet treasure zones on the sides. I decide to play. On the first week, I barely managed to get some bears.
On the second week - secondary dungeon + red dragon external dwelling, mini-conserve.
On the third week - secondary dungeon + two summoning portals (which always gave another dragon)
On the fourth week, I pushed into the Dragon Utopia; they killed 2 bears, an angel and one or two dragons - but gave me a mage's hat and a gladius. It got fun, so I immediately headed to my own treasure zone to collect wyverns. I didn't collect for long because Nella approached. I retreat into the Castle and transfer the army. Mana 60. I'm sitting in ambush. Nelka decides to attack, but failed to realize that I have an explosion dealing 800 damage. She flees the battlefield after seriously maiming my troop with threats that she will return =))) I immediately go to the waterfall and into the treasure zone. There I collected wyverns, took a few from the Dragon Utopia, got a rusty dragon in Pandora's box and some gold golems. On 215, I decide to go after the opponent; I stand near ГО for acceleration, buy up, and forward onto the snow without a pathfinder, but I have angel wings instead. I capture the Tower, kill a few losers, search for Nelka with Heavenly Eye, went down into the metro - there were 5 heroes - had to play "battleship," didn't guess right at first, but Nelka rushed past Gurnisson toward the Dragon Utopia on the snow (I thought she had already been gutted), but didn't make it... DD, FB and Nelka couldn't hold out and fell.
It was a very interesting game.
Thanks to Erdem for the game!!!
"Пришел, увидел, победил" - Юлий Цезарь.
"Пришел, скастовал, убежал" - Hit'n'Run.


- Почему женщины любят кентавров?
- И мужик в доме, и скотина в хозяйстве.


Штирлиц шел по коридору. Вдруг одна из дверей открылась, оттуда выскочил Борман, дал Штирлицу сильного пендаля и заскочил обратно. «Гарпия» - догадался Штирлиц.
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~no1_knows_me~(Blue,Citadel,Gurnisson,Gurnisson) def Erdme(Red,Tower,Nella,Nella) 2SM4d(3), 2.2.3

Confirmed. I played terribly. On the second day, I break through to the swamp respawn, scout 3 external dwellings of Gnolls and decide to permanently relocate to the swamp. In week 1, I build 1-6 in the Fortress and in the Castle. After taking a Utopia on day 143 for 4 Gold Dragons (lost 2 Wyverns and 2 Gorgons, 1 Angel and 4 Dragon Flies), I get Captain's Hat, Ring of the Diplomat, and Bag of Gold. :( I buy out all units in the swamp and set up a chokepoint at the border of the swamp and rock (guard: many Mummies). In the Tower, Nagas are in the Castle. I break through the Mummies, but fail to reach 3 tiles away from the enemy capital. Gurnisson is revived the next day. With an advantage in stats (especially in magic), I arrogantly assault the Barbarian on day 147: Gurnisson detonates twice, killing almost all Gorgons and Wyverns, mana runs out. I block the gate, blind the Wyverns, and zap everyone with Lightning Bolt dealing 320 damage. But in the end, the chaff runs out. I retreat with a few Lizard Warriors, leaving Gurnisson with 1 Familiar, 3 Wyverns, 30 Orcs, and 20 Ogre Magi. Gurnisson turned out to have the Speaker's Hat — I hadn't accounted for that. :( On the next week, I take the Cloak of Undeath, capture several Dragon Fly Hives in the underground, but come 1 tile short of the Utopia. Gurnisson (5 Mummies, 18 Wyverns, 20 Ogre Magi, 20 Gold Golems, 60 Harpy Hags, 1 Rust Dragon) attacks Nella (9 Enchanters, 20 Mages, 12 Greater Gorgons, 22 Wyverns, 8 Wyvern Monarchs, 25 Dragon Flies, 15 Greater Basilisks) with the Cloak of Undeath. Gurnisson turned out to have more chaff. Thanks to Dima for an interesting game! :)

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Erdme (Blue, Castle, Thyst, Thyst) def Knyaz (Red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.5

The roads are slow, wood and ore are behind the mountains, travel takes very long, so I decided to move to the neighboring respawn. In the first days, I upgraded the dwellings of Knights and Marksmen, upgraded the Marksmen. I broke through to the grassland respawn, captured the Rampart, barely build Cavaliers in the Citadel by day 117. In week 2, Orrin takes the Flail and the only mini-Griffin Conservatory, Thyst takes a Dragon Fly Hive for 8 Wyverns and upgrades the external Arena, buys out Cavaliers, opens a second front. Thyst breaks through to the next grassland respawn, I find a Town Portal scroll (Earth magic is basic). On the new rich respawn, scouts take 8 Crypts, Thyst captures another Rampart and the maximum Gnomish Foundry, plenty of resources and gold. Behind the Demons, I find a Fly scroll (but never used it). By the end of week 3, I build a level 4 Mage Guild in the Rampart. On day 137, I fight a stack of Familiars for the Pendant of Courage, Earth magic stubbornly refuses to level up, Elves are in the Citadel in both Ramparts, in the Castle I upgrade Crusaders and Pikemen. On day 142, I break through a GO hundred Wyverns, losing 20 Pikemen, and capture the enemy capital the next day. On day 144, Tazar takes the Griffin Conservatory and enters striking range. Thanks to Andrey for the game! :)
Человек человеку - друг!
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Behind us is half of the first stage.
Now I'm going to complain a little :)
A total of 28 out of 84 games have been played - a third instead of half.

Group A
9 games
I have no complaints about this group.
Everything is good at the top of the table - there is a fierce competition, and I will once again note the interesting reports, and now with pictures. There is no news from Monstro_aka_h3 yet, but he has a valid reason, and I am aware of it. A.S., Avern - you are a little behind, but it's not critical yet.

Group B
8 games
Drake22, I recommend that you get more involved in the game.
TerrorisT - congratulations on finishing your thesis, catch up!

Group C
4 games
I have no information about Lanser.
Unicorn promised to play with everyone, but I haven't seen him since.
DioNIX started a game with the group leader - DENCHELSEA. There is a controversial moment, but I will only watch the saves of the unfinished game if DioNIX does not appear before July 19. Then the ABI will make a decision.
Ioann - you've made a start, keep it up.
BladeDance and Samaya-samaya - I recommend that you at least catch up with Ioann and play with him.

Group D
7 games
Overall, not bad. A clear leader has emerged - Van.
Revan, unfortunately, will not be able to play this week.
With his consent, I am replacing him with Alexp (ICQ 393562367).
geroj, Fers 17 - catch up.
riorraw - no information.

Good luck to everyone and stay in a fighting mood
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Erdem (Blue, Castle, Turis, Turis) def Kniaz (Red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) 2SM4d(3), 1.4.5
It happened. The situation was bad. Although I had 1-2-3-4-5-6 in the castle on the first turn. I have no money, but I have 4 almost maxed units, I only took 2. Thanks for the game.
I am a NOOB and a BOT, I don't know how to play.
Бить, кромсать, рубить, душить!
:smile13: :smile13: :smile13: :smile13:
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geroj (Red, Tower, Nella, Nella) def Alexp (Blue, Rampart, Kirr, Mephala) 2SM4d(3), 2.2.7

:)
Victory)
In the first week, I got the Scroll of Dimensional Door, but didn't have time to use it; victory came a little earlier.
Just two more days and ;) Level 5 GM and immediately get the shield with all +4 :) from the Black Dragons!
I got lucky with resources and built the Titans in the second week.
Хорошо всё, что хорошо кончается.
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HeadHunter (Red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) def Drake22 (Blue, Barbarian, Dessa, Dessa) 2SM4d(3), 2.1.7
The rest wasn't great, but it seems my opponent was in even worse shape. The advantage in stats decided the outcome in the final battle.
Thanks for the game.
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HeadHunter (Red, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) def Drake22 (Blue, Barbarians, Dessa, Dessa) 2SM4d(3), 2.1.7
Confirmed. Not very successful with resources; I couldn't gather enough crystals for behemoths, let alone cyclops. We met in the Dungeon, and my hero turned out to be significantly weaker. Thanks for the game.
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Well, just a bit of grumbling and reports appear :) Just kidding. Well done, keep it up.

Lately, questions of this nature have been popping up:
8 disconnections from the opponent in a row — is that normal?
Since I'm writing roughly the same thing to everyone, I'll reply here. Please read it carefully:

1. A disconnect can happen to anyone.
That alone is no reason to suspect the opponent of conceding. Be more reasonable! Over 2 seasons, I've had over a hundred games just for reports, another hundred for forfeits. There were plenty of disconnections because my connection was unstable. Not once did I hear a hint that I was a cheater.

2. Warn your opponent if you suspect your internet might be lagging. 8 disconnections in a row is indeed not very normal.

3. Make saves instead of groundlessly accusing your opponent.
Daily saves, plus saves made after a disconnect, will dispel all doubts — whether they conceded or disconnected!

4. If you concede.
It's very frustrating and annoying, I know. It often happens due to carelessness or a mistake. In such a case, it's more reasonable (see point 3) to ask for auto. I don't like doing it myself, but sometimes I still ask for auto. I never refuse it myself.
I'll give an example from yesterday's match for clarity:
I'm playing as Rampart against Pavel Dubrovin, a bit nervous because I've been meaning to beat him for a while. The respawn is terrible, nothing there. Plus at week 1, day 1, I have to hit 40 riders... But there's a Necropolis player who by week 1, day 1, 4 made 50 skeletons — it got more interesting. On week 1, day 1, 4 I go to take a secondary town, I get confused — didn't transfer the skeletons to Kira, she goes underground with centaurs and 10 grand elves.
9 upgraded dendroids on the grass lie down, but a crowd of horned demons below kills me with morale. Almost no money for redemption, and I really don't want to start over with 50 skeletons. Well, what to do — I write in ICQ that I surrender, it's better to start another game because the opponent is strong — I probably can't get out of this. Pasha offers auto (to be honest, I knew he would), I take it. It's a shame, but what can you do... Next time I'll be more careful. I kill the demons and just before the secondary town I hit a block of 10-19 minotaurs. A second auto in a row I definitely wouldn't have taken, and my first thought was to transfer the army back... I thought about it and killed them, but it was on the edge, of course — 17 minotaurs with an upgraded stack underground. I hope Pasha forgives me for the risk :) Yes, I conceded again in the third match, but I won't tell you about that... Pasha insists I take another auto. If I take it, it'll only be because he spent time with me, so that there is at least a final battle.

5. Do not abuse your opponent's generosity — a win after three autos is no longer your victory; it's your opponent's moral victory :)

Oh, and one more thing.
The most important thing is that it's a game — remember that.
By the way — thanking your opponent for the game, regardless of the outcome, is a good tradition
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hero (Red, Tower, Nela, Nela) def Alexp (Blue, Rampart, Kirr, Mephala) 2SM4d(3), 2.2.7

:)
Victory)
In the first week, I got the Scroll of Dimensional Door, but I didn't have time to use it; victory came a little earlier.
Just another couple of days, and ;) level 5 GM, and immediately get the shield with all +4 bonuses :) from under the Black Dragons!
I was lucky with resources; I built the Titans in the second week.

I confirm. Nothing worked from the very beginning. At the only exit, there was a group of snipers; it's a pity I only noticed them on the 5th turn. I lost my main hero to them, and then there was another crowd of upgraded witches. I had to raise a new one. I also had very few resources. There were no crystals at all, so I couldn't build pegasi, and therefore unicorns and dragons. In the end, I broke through the horde of trolls, and I was one square short of taking the Dragon Shield. My opponent successfully picked it up. ))
Loss.
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Van (Blue, Dungeon, Shacti, Shacti) def Alexp (Red, Tower, Nella, Nella) 2SM4d(3), 2.1.6
Thank you for the game.
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4. If you lost.
This is very upsetting and annoying, I know. Often this happens due to carelessness or a blunder. In such a case, it would be wiser (see point 3) to ask for an autosave. I don't like doing this myself, but sometimes I still ask for one. I never refuse.
There is a corresponding topic about autosaves at /topic/5676/; read it if you haven't already (especially newcomers). For example, when playing against me, I give one autosave, the second one with difficulty (unless you take it yourself after that), and the third one is unlikely (unless the game is really interesting). But in general, you need to know your opponent's personal attitude towards this matter because they may refuse an autosave, and you won't be able to make any claims. But usually, these issues are resolved normally ;)<
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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If you merge all your troops with a hero, it means you've lost. (although you can always ask for an autosave)
If you know how to play, you shouldn't do that.
That's what I think.
Хорошо всё, что хорошо кончается.
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DENCHELSEA (Red, Dungeon, Gunnar, Gunnar) def Ioann (Blue, Swamp, Bron, Bron) 2SM4d(3)
I confirm, thanks for the game.
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If you merge all your troops with a hero, it means you've lost. (although you can still ask for an autosave)
If you know how to play, you shouldn't do that.
That's just my opinion.
Maybe so, maybe not. I would still ask that you write about this issue in my corresponding thread. It's just more convenient, and I'm interested in opinions and discussions on this topic. Otherwise, I wouldn't have created the thread.
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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Gomunguls (Red, Stronghold, Dessa, Gunnar) def TerrorisT (Blue, Swamp, Tazar, Tazar) 2SM4d (3), 2.1.4

I got very lucky with the respawn point!!! That's why I led such a huge crowd to the opponent, which greatly outnumbered them and was several times stronger in terms of stats...

Thanks for the game!
Удача любит подготовленных!!!





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