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During the last game, I discovered a feature called quick combat. Tazar (4-10) takes the maximum number of trees with two hydras. Dragonflies deal ~24 damage, so one hydra is defeated. But with quick combat, the trees are taken without any losses! You can place the hydras one by one or together. Mephala 1-5 takes advanced armor with the loss of 1 hydra, although it shouldn't have happened. In the same game, something funny happened with quick combat and archers. Tunar attacks with 2 hydras and loses 1 hydra in quick combat against a lot (28) of golems! Although with two wyverns and a tent, I could defeat them without losses, even without using quick combat.
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I gradually became disillusioned with Fortress; the range of Vassals is too wide – from 7 to full...
But I, on the contrary, actually enjoyed it! – I smoothly transitioned from using the Tower to using Fortress!!! (Well, after Forrest and co. visited our portal for the first time=)). It takes a while to level up a Tank... years, even... but with Fortress, you get Vassals right away – that's an army that will last you for the first week=DDDDD, and you can always get another Hero...
Malina happens when Fortress arrives with 7 Vassals and in a Tavern with a Tower))) =)))) The best start ever! *dreamily rolls eyes*
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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Lately, I've been spending almost every day playing Heroes 3... and my faction of choice is always Fortress... I just really like them! I usually choose the hero Tyraxor... and I develop in the beginning like this: I build a Town Hall, then Wyverns, then for 2-3 days I develop troops from levels 1-3, and then I can clear the surrounding territory around the castle and capture all the mines. I build a Market, develop Archers and Griffins, then a Capitol - and then I finish building the remaining troops... maybe there are some losses with this tactic...
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Dominus
I build a Town Hall, then Wyverns, then spend 2-3 days developing troops of levels 1-3. After that, I can clear the surrounding territory and capture all the mines. I build a Magistrate, develop Basilisk and Gorgon, then a Capitol, and finally finish building the remaining troops... This tactic might result in some losses...

The only loss is when the difficulty is set to 200%, i.e., in single-player mode.
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)

Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
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I have a question for the most experienced and seasoned Heroes strategists. Tell me, how often have you encountered players using Korbach as their hero for the Swamp faction? And have you used him yourselves?
While studying reports from online tournaments, I didn't find a single mention of this, generally speaking, remarkable hero. He specializes in dragonflies, increasing their attack, defense, and speed. I've always believed that Korbach is the best "template" for a mage, because the first turn is guaranteed under any circumstances. And in the first turn, you can do a lot – teleporting hydras if you're taking a Castle, or generally accelerating if you're fighting in the field. And, of course, like any Swamp hero, he has access to defense and other combat skills... logistics is often given to him as well. Of course, he's not as good as Solmyr – but what a temptation to deliver the first, crushing blow, turning the tide of the battle in your favor...
If you think my reasoning is unfounded, please explain why in detail. Because this question is very interesting to me
Как можно сделать мутную воду прозрачной?
- Не трогай её, и она очистится сама. :smile04:
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I may not be a seasoned player, but IMO, Korbach is a terrible starting hero. One of the main problems with the Swamp map at 160% random is the weak starting army. Korbach is an even worse start than the standard Warrior. The first turn is certainly good, but the Dragonfly has a decent chance of doing that in the hands of any other hero, unless the opponent has birds or speed artifacts.
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and I, for example, play with Vista. In my opinion, it's the most optimal option for the Swamp.

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D
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I played as Wistan a couple of times and didn't enjoy it. 1) The average number of gnolls is lower, and they are defeated faster. When attacking fast monsters, the losses will be greater. 2) What really bothered me. I think it's very important to capture Medusa Lairs in the first week; they are an excellent source of income for the Swamp faction. However, when starting as Wistan, capturing Medusa Lairs is much more difficult because there isn't a good stack of gnolls. But overall, the hero is certainly playable.
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Tralosk
I have always believed that Korbach is the best "base" for a mage because the first turn is guaranteed under any circumstances.

I don't understand - WHY?

Why is the first turn always guaranteed if the upgraded dragonflies have a speed of 13 + Korbach's specialization 1 = 14. What about archangels (18), black (15), gold (16) dragons, or phoenixes (21)?

Yes, you still need to survive until the archangels and others, and you can't build phoenixes, but even the unupgraded birds have a speed of 16!

If it was meant specifically for the Tower, then even titans and upgraded giants have a speed of 11, which is less than that of an ordinary upgraded dragonfly (13) led by Tazar/Vistan/Bronhilda/Bron/Alkin.

In my opinion, if it's in SoD, then Tazar, Bron, or Vistan. But Tazar definitely rules.

If it's in TE, then there are already possible options: Vistan, Bronhilda, Alkin, and of course, Tazar :D.

And Korbach's specialization is good for a hero (he will run 100 movement points further))
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IMHO if it's SoD, then Tazar, Bron or Vistan. But Tazar definitely rules.
well I already posted about this before!
at first I also played only tankosaurus... after joining the "Tambov bears" forum :D I switched to Bron! and not in vain.. you don't necessarily have to make him the father!! while you're still leveling up the tank with the starting army (and if the lizards aren't built yet and a necromancer came as the 2nd hero!!:rolleyes: ) although here too everything depends on the template!!
On Xl - there it's only ducks IMHO!!! As Forest said "a mega hero on large maps is scouting, ducks, of which you can slice tons in the treasure zone!";)
Alkin is good—but by the time you reach the cows! you'll already have sliced more ducks!(so so)
Well I don't consider others as starters (well unless Vistan can be tried! because there's too much of a spread in the army (and notice—with Bron, at least for me, Vasya rarely doesn't show up!)

PS everything was written for SoD!;):smile09:
pps.. ehh a dream—Bron with max army (incl. flies), tank in the tavern+Vistan. Lizards are built! big respawn with lots of money buildings!! =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD*drools*
играю на уровне AI !!:smile32: ;)
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RAPER

zyzy.. ehh dream — brownie with max army (incl. flies), Lizards fully built! big respawn with tons of money-generating buildings!! =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD*drooling*
Well, all you need to do is enable TE on Jebus Cross:D
there you'll have flies and lizards (of which Vistan has 30-35) and Vives at 111 — everything your heart desires:)

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
Сам ты фиш (с) :D
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2RAPER Naturally, Bronhit is also an option in SoD. That's more of a matter of preference; everyone likes something different. That's not what I meant. (Personally, I'm for the tank and whatever :D)

What I wanted to say is that any of these mentioned heroes are better than Korbak. And Korbak's role is just a loser running 100 move points further on a dragonfly. That's it :). And I simply see no point in making him the main hero )

PS: And regarding:
RAPER
zyzy.. oh, the dream—Bron with max army (including flies), tank in the tavern + Vistan. Lizards built up! a huge respawn with tons of money buildings!! =DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD *drools*


I'd also like to respond:

Often, one's own respawn misleads players into thinking the victory is already almost in the bag. (for example, two elf external dwellings, a conserve, etc.). IMHO, it matters little what you were dealt there. What matters is what you do with all of it. (c) Forrest.

:) :) :

Although, certainly, starting with such a layout is much more pleasant )))
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Lider1
The role of Korback is just a weakling who can move 100 movement points further on a dragonfly. And that's it.
I don't understand :) What does map speed have to do with it?

"Это нам идеально подходит!" [Новосибирск, 2013]
"Красавчик! Если только не читер.." [Киев, 2014]
"Это Вам не шутки - нажрался Dust в маршрутке" [Новокузнецк, 2015]
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Read Trelosk's post on page 38 :) (Message 380)
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Where did the data about Korback's increased movement speed on the dragonfly come from? Is there any experimental evidence?
2 Raper
In the already half-forgotten era, when we played at 200% speed and often had 6 computer opponents on the map (Chaos) - Bron was one of the most popular heroes. The gradual transition to Tazar happened gradually, as the rules evolved. In Chaos, they usually only put a viv on the first level, and even then on the fifth day, but with the current rules, development has become less difficult.
By the way, Necromancer as the second hero is not the worst option. A few hundred skeletons from Bekarmia are unlikely to be superfluous.
And Tazar as the starting hero and Bron with seven basilisks in the tavern, with built-up lizardmen - that's certainly amazing.

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