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The Eighth Stage of the annual John van Caneghem tournament for Heroes III

TOURNAMENT RULES
Nothing comes as fast as death.
Look death in the face.
(c) K0Lb@zzeR.

1. To participate in this "Quick Death" Heroes 3 tournament, you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru and also make a request in this thread.

Dear participants!!! The tournament is extended by two days (i.e., until November 22 inclusive)! You can find all the details via PM from the tournament organizer.

This tournament is held as part of the general John van Caneghem tournament, therefore all information, as well as its conduct and results, will be displayed in this section.

Note: final tournament results will also be available in the Heroes 3 offline tournaments section.

2. Tournaments are held on Russian versions of Heroes of Might and Magic III:
The Shadow of Death (Version 3.2) and Complete Collection [Platinum Edition] (Version 4.0) with the LMPatch installed (Version 4.1.1.1).

3. Game Goal – capture all mines in the minimum time. The second victory criterion is the highest amount of experience for the starting hero.
To win, you must capture the beacons!

The submitted save must contain the abbreviation (VC - van Caneghem) and the player's Nickname.
Example:

VC8_K0Lb@zzeR.GM1 or VC8-K0Lb@zzeR.GM1

4. Along with the submitted save, you must provide a description of the last step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, defeating the last monster) after which victory occurs, or the scenario walkthrough.

5. >>> Save walkthrough rules can be read here <<<

Important points:

1.4.13. Premature interruption of flight when using the "Fly" spell (or "Angel Wings" artifact), for example, by pressing the Space key to attack cities or other objects. Also, at the initiative of the tournament organizer, flying over passage guards may be prohibited. This point is specified by the organizer of the specific tournament.
Using flight, you CAN fly over passage guards (keykeepers).
1.4.12. It is forbidden to use the combined artifact "Admiral's Hat" (it can be used in disassembled form). For reference: by repeatedly boarding and disembarking from a boat using the "Admiral's Hat" artifact, it is possible to obtain navigation bonuses. The organizer may, at their discretion, allow the use of the combined artifact "Admiral's Hat" by specifying this as a separate point in the rules of a specific tournament. In this case, the organizer must also indicate whether this artifact can be used without restrictions or only in certain cases (for example, allowing its use only when the main goal is to cross a water barrier necessary for specific player actions, rather than obtaining navigation bonuses on land).
1.4.14. "Neutral pass-through" is allowed.
For reference: suppose a hero is standing on a swamp, having a neutral unit (sniper, nomad, troll, etc.) and a hydra (native swamp troop) in the army. If the neutral unit (sniper) is placed to the left of the native unit (hydra) in the troop deployment slots, the hero will move through swamp terrain without penalty, as if all creatures in the army were native; if the neutral unit is placed to the right, the hero will move through swamp terrain with a penalty.
1.4.15. It is forbidden to leave the hero without troops through any manipulations. Exception: leaving the hero without troops is allowed only if they were given for a quest.
1.4.16. It is permitted to dismiss heroes located in a castle via the "Kingdom Overview" menu -> "Show Towns".

6. Send the save to =12&style=000000&style[bgcolor]=FFFFFF&style[format][]=bold" />.

7. In case of suspicion of cheating or other malicious intent during the map walkthrough, a save must be made for every game day.
In such a case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a walkthrough description to the tournament organizer to determine whether the play was unfair or fair.
The result of a player who played unfairly is nullified, and their further participation in tournaments will be impossible. This will also reflect poorly on their reputation.

8. Discussion of the tournament during its conduct is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players who violate this rule automatically exclude themselves from playing the tournament; their results will be nullified and not counted).

9. The tournament starts on October 20 and lasts until November 20 (inclusive!)**. The result will be announced on November 25, 2008.

Dear participants!!! The tournament is extended by two days (i.e., until November 22 inclusive)! You can find all the details via PM from the tournament organizer.

10. After receiving your save, you will see in the application table that:
save accepted - Bold Nickname.
save counted - Italic-Bold Nickname.

We invite everyone to participate in the tournament!

Tournament Participants List
Participant Number
Participant Nickname
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vbn
2
Перполькен
3
Айвенго
4
AlexSpl
5
Монца
6
WhiteLizard
7
Andrey44_44
8
Lord Vampire
9
T@mar@
10
Elcidere
11
Angel_
12
Kash
13
KonServator
14
Keeper of Darkness
15
Vincent50
16
Oblion
17
Wlk777
18
Kamikaze
19
Fireball
20
Dirty_Player
21
Romanuel
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Everything about the starting save


1. Download the save.

2. The downloaded save must be placed on your computer in the GAMES folder of the installed Heroes 3.

3. Load it and start playing at any convenient time, while remembering to make daily saves.

4. After reaching the last action (after which victory occurs), you must save again.

5. With the final save, describe the last step in detail; then the results will be processed faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A full description of the tournament map is encouraged (optional). If any are provided, a contest for the best description will be held. The top five will take their place of honor in the "Hall of Fame" section!

7. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results.

P.S. I wish everyone a great time playing and most importantly VICTORY! And for myself, humbly, - intrigue in this tournament...

P.S.S. If there are additions or comments, please do not hesitate to speak up to minimize disagreements and shortcomings during the tournament.
Sincerely yours, K0Lb@zzeR.
P.S.S.S. I would be very grateful to those who, after the end of the tournament, vote and express their opinion about the map in this THREAD

Map and starting save:
Download Map HERE
Download Starting Save HERE
:smile13: [ТУРНИР] "Гонка за Лидером" :smile13:
:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
:smile16: "Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death" :smile16:
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Good day.

At the moment.
The saves have been received from the following participants:
Perpolken, Ayvengo, AlexSpl, WhiteLizard, Lord Vampire, Elcidere, Kash, Vincent50, Oblion, Wlk777, Kamikaze, Fireball, Dirty_Player.
A total of 13 saves (what a cool number).

Sincerely, K0Lb@zzeR.

P.S. Reminder:
Dear participants!!! The tournament is extended by two days (i.e., until November 22nd)!
:smile13: [ТУРНИР] "Гонка за Лидером" :smile13:
:smile28: [M] "Я и моя тень" - "I am and my shadow" :smile28:
:smile16: "Быстрая смерть" - "Fast Death" :smile16:
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I'll repeat it now... I've already downloaded it once... and by the way, it's completely unclear why the message disappears somewhere.
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eeee......there's something about spam bots here, I'm not entirely with it. So is the address the one visible on the main page or the one that opens when you click? I sent it to glhmmDOGbk.ru.....in short, I sent the active final file via PM, then I'll upload it to the site, if anything.
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Roma, try sending it to k0lbazzer@bk.ru – this is his second email address. Just in case!
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sent it again....
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I have 10 days and 14506 experience points with the starting hero... I can upload the save file here if I haven't reached the destination yet.
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Wow! Awesome! So, I have a question for everyone. I received 13 save files. I wouldn't really want to be the last one. Just asking. Has anyone completed the game in more than 70 days?)))
Тот, кто находит удовольствие в уединении, либо дикий зверь, либо Бог (с) Аристотель

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I'm not sure how good I am; I only practiced one walkthrough... and it was clearly not very successful. I started late, thinking the tournament was until the 24th (I confused it with the second game) and was one of those asking for an extension; I even asked for a whole day. I think I can make it into the top five.
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right after the recognized monsters...
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Romanuel
I have 10 days and 14506 experience with the starting hero... I can put the save file right here if I didn't make it.
I don't really believe it took only 10 days, to be honest.
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The winner will have 9 or 8 unicorns. Instead of tactics, focus on training and a logistics specialist; by the end of the week, they'll be flying across the map, plus pathfinding (I haven't tested it, I just didn't have time). Sandals are for sale. It's all simple. And I cleared almost everything with just one Dessa. I wasted time on phoenixes and the shield near the lighthouse, etc. I didn't restart from scratch, and I'm not even sure if it's possible to leave the starting area by sea faster, saving a day. Also, I used Dessa's magic in battles; I was just too lazy to optimize, but the idea is in mysticism, and it might have been enough for a VERY important boost right after getting teleportation... Oh, and I read about flying with the spacebar when it was already too late. That's a bummer. It saves at least 10% of movement time. Let's see the results of the "corifei" – they probably thought of everything down to the smallest detail. I was in such a hurry that I completed everything on fast battles by the second week. There's no time for deliberation. By the way, this aspect really bothered me. Why does magic get spent if it's turned off in auto-battle? It seems like the movement speed of creatures in battle didn't increase after installing the patch. Did I need to rewrite the "kramniy" first?
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Here it is. Change the extension to gm1 and open it.
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Romanuel
The winner will have 9 or 8 Vernikums. It's not about tactics, but about training and a logistics specialist; by the end of the week, they simply fly across the map, plus pathfinding (I didn't check it at all – I didn't have time). Sandals are for sale. It's all simple. And I cleared almost everything with just one Dessa. I wasted time on Phoenixes and the shield near the lighthouse, etc. I didn't restart from scratch, and I'm not even sure if it's possible to leave the map faster by sea, taking a day less. Also, I used Dessa's magic in battle; I was just too lazy to optimize it, but the idea is in mysticism, and it might have been enough for a VERY important leap right after getting teleportation. Oh, and I read about flying with the spacebar when it was already too late. That's a bummer. It saves at least 10% on movement. Let's see the results of the top players – they probably have everything thought out down to the smallest detail. I was in such a hurry that I completed everything on fast battles by the second week. There's no time for contemplation. By the way, this aspect really bothered me. Why does magic get spent if it's turned off in auto-battle? It seems like the patch didn't speed up the movement of creatures in battle. Did it need to be rewritten in crimson first?
Why isn't this super-heroine, Dessa, in the save file? I'd like to take a look at her. And may I ask, where did you get the flying ability in the first week? I'm very curious. Judging by your description, it appears when logistics is highly developed. In general, I have very, very many doubts about the honesty of completing the map in less than 3 weeks :smile10:
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Overall, I have very serious doubts about the fairness of completing the map in less than 3 weeks.
Doubt is an integral part of human judgment. But before expressing it, one should consider whether they are sufficiently competent in the matter. Perhaps it would be worth listening to what others have to say? So, in addition to Romanuel's post, I would add that, if I didn't miss anything, the map has an obvious and easily achievable limit in terms of days, and it's even too easy to achieve. The limit is 7 days, and that's probably how many days the winner and prize-winners will have (or even less, if I missed something). I won't judge the maximum amount of experience, as I haven't been involved in optimizing secondary criteria in tournaments for a very long time, because, as a rule, this is a rather boring process, at least for me.
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Fireball
Doubt is an integral part of human judgment. But before expressing them, it is worth considering whether you are competent enough in this matter. Maybe you should listen to what others have to say? So, in addition to Romanuel's post, I'll add that, if I didn't miss anything, the map has an obvious and easily achievable limit in terms of days, even a bit too easily achievable. The limit is 7 days, which is probably how many days the winner and prize-winners will have (or less, if I missed something).
Hmm, I'm probably really incompetent, because I can't figure out how to get flight (angel wings, etc.) on this map. I've explored it in quite detail and haven't found anything like that. There are no scrolls or books about flight in the cities, and there are no angel wings on this map, I think. There are probably other ways.

Moderated: OFF-TOPIC in the message

but it seems to me that they are called something like with the letter "c". This thought is also prompted by the absence of the hero in the save file with which the map was actually completed. In general, until I am clearly explained where the flight comes from, I can confidently say that this is all just ordinary cheating.
To Wlk777: please be patient and respectful.

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