Posts from HMMV Tournament: "Greedy"

I messed up by not realizing that you can sneak into the enemy's territory through the dungeon at the beginning. That's why the result was so weak, and I didn't have time to replay. With the Dwarf, I somehow couldn't find a balance between machines and the path of war, so I chose Axel – he has a direct path to that, but without education. And with the warlords, or whoever is in the tents, the machinist shouldn't have any problems. They're the only ones! I only suffered losses on the upper druids against the Orc, but there I could already defeat everyone with a dozen warriors, so losing 25 out of 60 didn't matter. I had to send Axel back on his turn – that's the first mistake (+1 day), and the fact that I didn't go through the dungeon – that's the second mistake (another 1 day) – that's how it turned out to be 12. Well, never mind, it's still a good lesson for the future.

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2Kamikadze Tell me how you dealt with the mana shortage when playing as a mage? After all, to complete it in 11 days, you can't stop and waste time at the wells.

2Gastell0 It's not that big of a blunder. Perhaps it's not even necessary to do this, IMHO. Although everyone has their own way of playing, and thankfully the map is interesting, so thank you to its creator. Although the results are not yet known, I might be very wrong.

2Kamikadze Tell me how you dealt with the mana shortage while playing as a Mage? After all, to complete the game in 11 days, you can't stop and waste time at mana wells, right?

There are 4 mana wells on the map, plus 2 cities. I didn't stop at the mana wells, but only lost 100 gold (touching the well). Direal only lived for 10 days. Of course, I had to conserve mana... but compared to the hassle with the golems (spent about 6 hours), it wasn't a problem ;). Besides, I upgraded Intelligence, after which I had 135 mana. And that's roughly 4 phoenixes in two days :)

2Konservator I used this little word twice – in relation to the AI and to myself – but I think we’re talking about my playthrough… I’ve already pointed out the moments where the result could have been significantly improved – and I can criticize myself regardless of any authorities :) P.S.: Well, is my result known to everyone? ;) Why doesn’t anyone else want to share, besides the three of us? Either everyone else finished much faster and is waiting for official recognition :) or they’re just modest and shy heroes :) LordVampire has certain difficulties with summarizing the results, and the rest are keeping a proud silence :) and we really want to know the names of the winners :) Come on, ladies and gentlemen, please share :)
2Kamikadze 6 hours? Did you also defeat the rebellious golems with overwhelming force? :D

It really wasn't a good idea to announce the results before the final standings were posted; it would have been much more exciting.
Better to wait... I might just not want to embarrass myself prematurely...
I didn't think about the Phoenix... I don't know, it seemed to me that it wasn't needed here at all.
It also wasn't very easy to catch the all-powerful, Armageddon-inducing fairy... although I think it could have helped me finish much faster...
Time.

I'll be the one embarrassed by this. I apologize again for not checking in even this evening. I was working. Tomorrow, if I finish everything by lunchtime, I'll go to a friend's place and check. Please don't be too harsh.

It's completely unclear why the tournament participants are being so secretive... tell us already, since Vampire refuses to check the save files, otherwise we won't know the names of the true heroes until next year ;)

I said I'm having trouble with it))) I didn't say I'm giving up))) so we'll see)))

For some reason, I couldn't find a good combination of "Mechanics" and "Path of War" for the Dwarves. I took Axel – he has a direct path to "Path of War," but without "Education." And with the "Yarles" or whoever is in the tents, the "Mechanics" skill shouldn't be a problem. I had to send Axel back to the starting point (1st mistake, +1 day), and the fact that he didn't go through the underground (2nd mistake, +1 day) – that's how it turned out to be 12 days.

At the beginning, I upgraded the Dwarves like this:
2. Mechanics
3. Attack
4. Completion Rune
5. Rune Machines
6. Ranged Attack
7. Logistics
8. Offensive Paths
9. Advanced Logistics
10. Path of War!
11. Education
12. Advanced Mechanics
13. Ballista....

Considering that he reached level 12 on the 2nd day (after the Sphinx)... after that, it was almost on autopilot... I just needed to plan the route correctly (and I made a mistake at the end of the 3rd day)...

Judging by what you said, the conclusion is one – a lack of time prevented a better playthrough... and that's what I was saying before – 2 weeks turned out to be too short for such an interesting map.

P.S. Regarding the Druids and the mines – I answered both of you yesterday in ICQ

Greetings to you all, ladies and gentlemen (there was only one lady in the tournament). So, the save file check is complete, and I can announce the new giant and winner. It's KonServator!!! Congratulations on your victory; now the whole forum knows that you are the greediest among us! Unfortunately, in Lord Virus's save file, I found that he left one mine unclaimed. The save is not valid. Please be more attentive next time. Regarding the Clans war, I will write about it later. I got the impression that this tournament wasn't a General one but rather an internal clan tournament for the Witch Clan because representatives of this clan didn't compete with anyone except their own members))). Well done, you played well. I won't comment on my result; those who need to know will understand)). Vesta did great; she almost caught up with me. Thank you all for participating in the tournament!!! Here you can see the results

Congratulations to the winner - KonServator :smile49:
You were a Vampire, and there were only three of us (Witchers), while there were 11 participants, so it wasn't exactly an intra-clan competition :)

In general, the top six players have very close results... which means there will be a serious competition in future tournaments... but that's a good thing!

But as the organizer, I want to thank you separately... the map and the task were interesting, and there was a lot to think about.

Please review the ranking from the past Tournament.
And also the Clans ranking for it.

Thanks for the congratulations. I still can't believe I won myself! :smile49: I don't even know what's cooler: that the top three places were taken by Sorceresses or my own victory.

I would also like to express my gratitude to Lord, who, despite all the difficulties, took on the organization of the tournament.

Well then, I'll start with the description of the walkthrough.

I took Axel as the main hero. Here is his leveling.

Axel (level 18).

Level 2 - Basic Logistics
Level 3 - Advanced Offense
Level 4 - Archery
Level 5 - Basic Machines
Level 6 - Fire Arrows
Level 7 - Advanced Counterstrike
Level 8 - Ballista
Level 9 - Advanced Machines
Level 10 - Rapid Fire Ballista
Level 11 - Advanced Logistics
Level 12 - Expert Logistics
Level 13 - Pathfinding
Level 14 - Homeland
Level 15 - Way of War
Level 16 - Basic Armorer
Level 17 - Spectral Luck
Level 18 - Soldier's Luck

Attack – 11
Defense – 9
Spellpower – 2
Knowledge – 8

Secondary hero: Brand (level 13)

Level 2 - Basic Machines
Level 3 - Basic Offense
Level 4 - Advanced Machines
Level 5 - Rune Machines
Level 6 - Ballista
Level 7 - Basic Logistics
Level 8 - Archery
Level 9 - Advanced Offense
Level 10 - Fire Arrows
Level 11 - Pathfinding
Level 12 - Advanced Logistics
Level 13 - Expert Machines

Attack – 4
Defense – 3
Spellpower – 5
Knowledge – 5



Day 1: Hired Inga and Axel. Built the Blade House. Transferred all the army to Axel. He visited the knowledge dolmen north of the castle, took out the Mountain Guards, visited the stables, and took out the Imps. The other heroes follow the same route. Captured the Ore Pit.

Day 2: Axel neutralizes the Peasants, visits the second dolmen, takes out the Orc Warriors near the market, and heads north. Inga picks up the Tarot Deck and sells it at the city market. Karli visits the second dolmen, gets Luck in travel, picks up Mercury, and exchanges 10 Ore for 1 Mercury.

Day 3: Inga buys a Ballista and gives it to Axel. He kills the Goblin Witches, then the Warriors and Orc Fighters, picks up the Mountain King's Axe, and heads towards the Marksmen. Inga captures the Sawmill and collects resources. Karli also collects resources. The Fighting Circle is built in the city, and Brand is hired.

Day 4: Inga captures the Mountain Guardians' dwelling, hires them, and transfers them to Axel. Axel takes out the Marksmen, takes the experience from the chests, and runs to the flag near the sphinx. Brand hires the Bone Crushers and transfers them to Axel. The Knight breaks through the Obsidian Golems and the Cuirassiers and approaches the Sulfur Dike. Brand visits the sphinx and takes the experience. Karli and Inga collect resources. The first-level guild is built in the city.

Day 5: Axel takes out the Vampires, Light Unicorns, and Militia. Karli captures the second-level dwelling, hires Spear Throwers, transfers them to Axel, and in return takes 3 Mountain Guardians. The second-level guild is built in the city. Brand captures the Sulfur Dike, visits the city, and transfers the spells to Inga. Inga runs up to Karli and teaches him the spells.

Day 6: Axel beats the Daughters of Earth, loots the Dwarven Treasury, and runs up to the Crystal Mine. Karli destroys the Earls, visits the tent, and takes the spellbook. Inga captures the Alchemist's Laboratory. The first-level Rune School is built in the city.

Day 7: Axel wipes out the Arkat Warriors, then the Demons, passes through the Border Guard, and stops at the stables. Brand buys a Ballista in the city, heads towards the Forest Marksmen, and stops near them. The Rune Sanctuary is built in the city.

Day 8: Axel: Goblin Shamans >> stables >> Watchtower. Ingvar is hired in the starting city, he buys 3 Rune Priests and transfers all the army to Brand. He captures the Forest Marksmen, clears the Abandoned Mine of undead, and kills the Elder Druids (already with the Summoning spellbook obtained from Karli) and runs to the Gold Mine.

Day 9: Axel neutralizes the sphinx's guards, takes the experience, and gains the "Way of War" skill. Then he breaks through the Shamans, Cuirassiers, loots the Elemental Tower, and takes out the Djinn Viziers. Brand captures the Arkat Priests, captures the Gold Mine. After that, he attacks the Gargoyle Repository and flees the battlefield. Ingvar captures the Gem Mine, collects resources, and is dismissed. Inga captures the second Ore Pit. Faiz is hired in the Stronghold, who claims the Sawmill and collects gold near the training grounds.

Day 10 (final): Faiz takes the Sulfur Dike, collects resources, and is dismissed. Karli does the same with the Crystal Mine (the one on the way to the Stronghold) and is also dismissed. The already known Brand is hired in the Stronghold, buys a Ballista and as many troops as the money allows, pushes back the Elder Druids and Djinn Viziers at the Gold Mine and captures it. Axel clears the Abandoned Mine, then beats the bears, picks up the Ogre's Club, and stops. Inga takes the Dragon's Claw Crown from Brand, delivers it to Axel, and is dismissed. After that, Axel kills the Arakat Warriors, captures the Alchemist's Laboratory, captures the Riders, and places the red flag on the Crystal Mine. Resources are sold in the Stronghold to hire a hero, who captures the last, Gem Mine.

P.S.

so in future tournaments there will be serious competition........but that's only for the better!

I agree with Wolf, it's nice to see the competition growing in the tournaments on HeroesWorld.

I hate everyone so much! :) How could they be so stupid... almost took first place!... oh well;). Experience, experience... now I won't neglect the time; I spent just as much time making tea and other things...
The Witches played well, didn't they, in our intra-clan game?;) Of course not.... everyone played well.
A little about the walkthrough...
Day 1. The Dwarf bites peasants and takes the map. Inga takes the map and troops from the Dwarf. The Dwarf stole spearmen from Inga, and Inga stole... then Inga brings the loot to the castle for Axel, the clover is sold. A ballista is bought, and spearmen are built and bought as well. Axel goes to the obelisk and learns Battle Frenzy. Then, warriors. Dogs. Losses - 11 peasants and 12 warriors. That's it:)
Day 2. Axel gains experience: Machines-Defense-Tent. Bites a mine with stones. Inga brings spearmen to the castle, now 50 harpooners, and a tent. The ring -2 is sold. Axel goes to beat the golems. He kills them, losses - 6 warriors. Leadership-Logistics. The Dwarf goes around and eats the clearing and the campfire.
Day 3. Then the vampires... losses - 1 harpooner. Then comes the turn that brought me second place. To the carpet!:)
Instead of going straight to the crossbowmen, he moved to the flag
In total, he spent 2 units of movement, gained luck/morale.
Inga goes to the Sphinx. Machines-Ballista-Chaos-Advanced Chaos-Summon-Cold-Deadly Cold-Defense-Education. Guild 1.
Day 4. Axel kills the warriors at the wood mine. The Dwarf bites the tree, only cash:). The mine is taken at the end. The Dwarf goes to the second obelisk. Dwarf: Luck-Chaos. Axel bites the goblins. On the way to the druids...
Inga goes to the castle. Guild 2. Inga teaches Axel the crystal. Yum-yum druids, burning the abandoned mine. Into the well, then down.
Day 5. The Dwarf teaches Inga the ring. Inga picks up the crown from the dragon's teeth... Axel goes down. He breaks the priests, before that, the archers... three more units of movement... although there was already a path of war there, so they paid off. He goes to the mercury mine.
Inga goes to the dungeon... Helmar is bought and sent there as well.
Day 6. The mercury mine and further down. Unicorns and into the dungeon...
And here I finished my hundredth cup of tea for the evening:)
Day 7. Inga breaks the Erls. Helmar takes the book and gives it to her. Inga goes to the treasury and escapes there. Yum-yum, that's it =^^=
Axel takes the enemy's castle. Inga is bought =^^=
Waiting...
Day 8. The enemy bypasses the invincible force. Axel goes up, Inga bites the druids, 13 mana:). There is a ballista. Then he takes the crystal and wood mines. He goes to the sulfur mine
Axel goes through the Goblins and Daughters to the gold mine, bites the djinns.
A bunch of heroes were bought and sent to take the mines.
Day 9. Inga takes the sulfur. Axel goes in a chain: Dancing with the Wind-Mine-Bears-Arkat's Warriors... and... he lacks 1 unit of movement to kill the riders. EXCELLENT!!!!!!! ROAR!! ARRR! All the hero conquerors were already ready! They were just in time to capture! But!.. No matter how I tried to build a chain from the djinns so that it would be enough, I didn't succeed... although at the end it seemed that I found a solution... but the time is 11:47 Moscow time... sob-sob... the dragon is crying.
Day 10. I captured...
This is a description of the last walkthrough... but I sent the penultimate one, it's slightly different ;)

The end of the saga...
I'll eat you, Conservator;)
By the way, the places were distributed interestingly:) In the clan tournament, the results are exactly the opposite, it turns out that Tammy has such a good result that she overtook us all.
I want to see other walkthroughs! :)
By the way, I noticed that this is already the 2nd tournament where I don't have time to complete what I planned:) now it's already my fault...

posted by WisTrit
I want to see other people's walkthroughs!

and I want to see replays of some battles, namely:
1. WisTrit and KonServator against Wind Archers
2. KonServator (Karli v Thunder Thanes) and WisTrit (Inga v Thunder Thanes)
3. Both against the first golems