Posts from DISCUSSIONS on “Rules for online games in HoMM3 and formulas for calculating player rating.”

Paladin (13:48:14 20/09/2008)
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Paladin (13:48:19 20/09/2008)
is it possible according to the rules to fly over the keymaster's tent with wings without opening it?After thinking it over, I realized that we simply have nothing in the rules regarding tents, outposts, etc. — an artifact, a conservatory, Dragon Utopia, or anything else could be located there. Let' same vote if anyone is interested:)
I think there are several options:
1) you can fly over and take whatever you want
2) you can take everything except artifacts and Pandoras
3) you can only take things by visiting the tent
4) another option — don't be shy :)

Let's vote if anyone is interested:)

I think there are several options:
1) you can fly around and take whatever you want
: )

5.2. All level 4 magic specialist heroes, as well as Tant (Raise Dead) can use their respective spells against opponents in the following cases:
a) If the corresponding level of the Mage Guild (MG) has been built in any of the controlled Castles. If the required level of the MG is not present in these Castles, then it is necessary to fully build all levels of the MG in any two Castles that you own. Or capture an opponent's Castle with the required MG already built (it doesn't matter how long the captured Castle remains under your control). Visiting this Castle with a hero is not required.
b) Find and visit a "sanctuary of magical thought" with the required magic.
c) If any of your heroes are given the corresponding spell in the Pandora's Box, pyramid, after visiting a scholar, or in a spellbook.
Against neutral monsters, as well as against the computer (if it is present on the map), level 4 magic specialists and Tant can use their respective spells without the above restrictions.
It is allowed to transfer level 4 spells and Raise Dead from specialists to other heroes, but trained heroes can only use them after fulfilling sub-points a, b, and c of paragraph 5.2. That is, the specified spells cannot be used against neutral monsters, the computer, or an opponent without fulfilling the above conditions.

If Sir Mullich is above level 3, as well as Izra or Vidomina with expert spellcasting, and they appear in the tavern after escaping, they cannot be purchased.

If Sir Mullich above level 3, as well as Izra or Vidomina with expert spellcasting are purchased in the tavern, they must be dismissed within 4 days of purchase.

5.1. Forbidden heroes: Sir Mullich. If this hero reaches level 3, he must be dismissed on the same day.

5.12. It is forbidden to enter neighboring territories without breaking through the guard standing in the passage (i.e., if it is moved). If two or three guards are scattered along the road, any one can be broken through.
In the absence of a passage guard, including a moved one, it is allowed to freely move from one starting location to another.

5.16. In the "Conflux" Castle, it is forbidden to upgrade monsters to levels 1, 6, and 7.

5.17. In the "Necropolis" Castle, it is forbidden to build a necromancy amplifier.

Dima just messaged me:
After thinking it over, I realized that we simply have nothing in the rules regarding tents, outposts, etc. — an artifact, a conservatory, Dragon Utopia, or anything else could be located there. Let's vote if anyone is interested :)
I think there are several options:
1) you can fly over and take whatever you want
2) you can take everything except artifacts and Pandoras
3) you can only take them after visiting a tent
4) other options — don't be shy :)

5.13. It is forbidden to take Pandoras, scrolls, artifacts, or visit any kind of objects from under shifted guards without killing the guards first. It is forbidden to visit objects, take Pandoras, scrolls, or artifacts using "Fly" or "Dimension Door" spells, as well as via angel wings, without breaking through the corresponding guards. Chests, campfires, and resources may be taken both using the aforementioned spells and wings, and from under shifted guards.

I think a logical sequence would be: "It is forbidden to take Pandora's boxes, scrolls, artifacts from under the barricades, or to visit various objects without first visiting the keymaster's tent... and so on."

5.1. Forbidden heroes: Sir Mullich. If this hero reaches level 3, he must be dismissed on the same day.

I think it should be consistently stated that it is forbidden to take Pandoras, scrolls, artifacts from under the guard, to visit various locations without first visiting the keymaster's tent... and so on, as described in the text.

Why, if you buy a level 3 Mulich in the tavern, you can use him for 4 days, but the one who leveled him up to level 3 must dismiss him immediately, and not after those same 4 days?

What's wrong with Sir Mulich?

As I understand it, without fulfilling conditions a), b), and c), any owner of a level 4 spell and a Tantrum can use their spells in any battles, except against enemy human heroes. And fulfilling one of these conditions is only necessary for battles against a human opponent, right?

only after fulfilling sub-points a, b, and c of point 5.2.

however, it is not present in the text.

because you might have to buy it.

in 4 days, you are unlikely to accomplish much with him :)

if I were writing the rules, he wouldn't be allowed to be bought at all, and if you get him in prison, you have to dismiss him on the same day ;)

that's right, but there are also scrolls - they can be used

and in general, this is the only point in our rules that I don't like:o

As I understand it, without fulfilling conditions a), b), and c), any owner of a 4th-level spell and a Tantrum can use their spells in any battles, except against enemy human heroes. And fulfilling one of these conditions is only necessary for battles against a human opponent, right?

correct, but there are also scrolls - they can be used
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only after fulfilling the sub-items a, b, c of item 5.2.

if you are talking about transferring spells, then my opinion is that it would be fairer for new owners to use them with the same rights as the old ones.

By the way, can you add anything about my other questions?

throughout the game in any of the cities on the map, right? and if the computer does it, can it not be upgraded or can improved versions not be bought?

2. Map settings options:
people – 2; computers – 0; teams – 0; map size L+U; templates – by agreement, but I recommend 2sm4d(3), – for this you need to download the file attached at the end of this post and unpack it into the "Data" folder; no water; strong monsters; difficulty 160%; time limit per turn – 4 minutes.

and if with flight, wings, or a dimension door, do you also need to break through the guard, or can you do without breaking through in this case? judging by the restrictions on angel wings, in this case I understood that it is possible?

again, the same question as in the previous item. That is, improved vampires, phoenixes, fairies, and ultimate elementals can only appear in the game from Pandora or the mercenary camp?

so far, I will be very grateful for clear answers.

5.11. It is forbidden to visit mapmakers and the "fort on the hill".

5.12. It is forbidden to enter neighboring territories without breaking through the guard standing at the passage (i.e., if it is moved). If two or three guards are scattered along the road, any one can be broken through.

5.11. It is forbidden to visit mapmakers and the "fort on the hill".

The guard of each passage must be cleared. Sometimes, several guards protect a single passage. This is what is meant by clearing any passage of your choice.

Can I see everything from the overlook, and can this be considered a serious violation???:smile14:

There are different situations. It has happened to me more than once that I walked past a guard, but I immediately reported it to my opponent and simply returned to the starting point (I almost always do the same with those who have passed a shifted guard and told me about it themselves). Sometimes it's simply impossible to see it. I had a game where my scout hero was moving off-road, and when transitioning from one grass tile to another, there were two passages — one guarded and the other not (visually, it looked like a continuation of my respawn). I went where I thought my respawn was, and based on the 2 wood mines, I realized I had crossed the border and that the guard was supposed to be guarding this particular passage, not the one where it was standing. How can you say that this is a gross violation? It was simply impossible to recognize? And simply turning around and going back is a loss of tempo. If my opponent had demanded a tech after that, I would have agreed, but I'd hardly want to play with him after that!

My opinion: Sergey, if you sent Shnyr, why would going back be a loss of tempo? I disagree. I've been in such situations, and I didn't think it was a shame not only to return but also not to use the loot I collected. If you had gone with Glyvn, then yes, it would be a loss of tempo to return and break through.

but also not to use the loot I collected.