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$ PRIZE POOL $



PrizeA:
  1. Licensed DVD-BOX of Heroes of Might and Magic V (with delivery)
  2. Fan t-shirt in your size(XL,L,M,XXL) with the Heroes Of Might And Magic V logo
PrizeB: A profile award (like the one given to respected nprf for winning the 1st Heroes 3 tournament over at HeroesV.net.ru)

PrizeB, [PrizeA(1) or PrizeA(2) {winner's choice}] is awarded to the player who takes first place in the tournament according to the tournament rules.


TOURNAMENT RULES


1. To participate in the first offline tournament, you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru and also submit an application in this thread
2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 5
3. Game version 1.0
4. The submitted save must contain the tournament number (1) and the player's Nickname
example 1_VDV_forever.sav
5. Along with the submitted save, it is mandatory to provide a description of the final step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, defeating the last monster) after which victory occurs, or the walkthrough of the scenario.
6. The submitted save must have only one conqueror hero who performs the final action (others should simply be dismissed).
7. Patches, cheats, codes, mods, as well as additional programs that can change the game structure are FORBIDDEN!
8. Results will be evaluated primarily based on minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge); if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.
9. The conqueror hero in the submitted save must be without artifacts (they can be placed in the backpack or transferred to another hero who should then be dismissed).
10. Ashi's Tear can only be dug up when the puzzle map is fully opened (this will not happen in this tournament).
11. Send the save to the email address h5_tournament@heroesworld.ru
12. Applications are accepted until June 19, 2006. If you're late, you've missed out
13. In case of suspicion of cheating or other malicious intent during the map completion, a save must be made every game day.
P.S. In such a case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a walkthrough description to determine whether the play was unfair or fair.
The result of a player who played unfairly will be voided and their reputation on our site will be "morale down"!
14. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players violating this rule automatically lose the opportunity to play in the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).
15. The tournament starts on the 19th and will last for 19 days. Results will be announced 19 days after its conclusion. [You can still apply and participate in the competitions within 5 days after the start of the tournament, i.e., until 00:00 (GMT) 25.06.06]
16. After receiving your save, we will notify you of receipt via your mailbox on our website www.heroesworld.ru

17*. For this tournament:

If you killed the main opponent Gilraen and then completed the following task (killed the last weak hero, captured a castle, or something else) after which absolute victory occurs, the description of the battle with Gilraen MUST be sent together with the save!!! That is, in this case, you will have to provide 2 descriptions (instead of one):
a) battle with Gilraen
b) final winning step

The description should look approximately like this:
Attacking Gilraen with hero Agrail.
Agrail has:
Level N,
army size.
Gilraen has:
Level N,
army size.
And then describe the battle itself.

Tournament Sponsor Respected ADMIN!!!

P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time gaming and, most importantly, VICTORY!

P.S.S. If there are any additions or remarks, please do not hesitate to speak up to minimize disagreements and shortcomings during the tournament process



PARTICIPANT LIST FOR THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT!
NUMBERPLAYER NICKNAME
1 VDV_forever
2 ***JOKER***
3 КАНТ
4 Night
5 Борис
6 Vladushka
7 BlazinPimp
8 Dimusik
9 sterh
10 Carmack
11 leshan
12 SandroTM
13 fanat
14 Karatel SS Varjag
15 Aleksandrkalin
16 Diesel
17 Geser
18 Rojok
19 Intruder
20 Halfing
21 DarkOne
22 dontes
23 VaRyG
24 Sablik
25 Supreme
26 Ежик в тумане
27 necko78
28 kop
29 AlexeyPank
30 Faer
31 *Paladin*
32 gluck
33 Tank 2
34 Philip
35 kazyabr
36 di ps
37 Skeleton Darkknight
38 sjava
39 Evil Hearted
40 GvozD
41 LordOrder7
42 Kiselev Yura
43 Xaker
44 Rogvold
45 mudvaLing
46 BAXtheGREATEST
47 dartRevan
48 shoot-nick
49 KOLb@zzer
50 Svyatoslav
51
Steep
52
Х®одо из Фы®а
53
Ivanuraser
54
Lap1976
55 Strelok
56 Bandit
57 Rean
58 Krivol
58 DeMoN
59 Rustam
60 Varg-Nar
61 Carrion
62 D3lirium
63 vladislav5
64 Krong
65 Illipyk
66 emfoot
67 IronAxe
68 Андрей


This list can be expanded by new participants!
The tournament starts on 19.06.06 (Monday)!!!
Saves will only be considered for players who are in this table, so submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!

Everything about the starting save

Starting Save
From 19.06.06 the save can be downloaded:
1st mirror
2nd mirror

1. The save that will be posted on our site (19.06.06) must be downloaded and placed on your computer in the following folder C:\Documents and Settings\VDV_forever\My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\VDV_forever\Saves[br][/br]2. Naturally, everyone has their own nickname, so in each individual case it will be approximately: C:\Documents and Settings\X\My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\X\Saves[br][/br>where X is simply the name under which you usually play
3. Load 19.06.06_offline.sav and start playing, making daily saves.
4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.
5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be tallied faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!
6. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).
7. Wait for the results.

The starting save was generated from the "Conquest" map (3rd map) of the standard campaign for the Inferno faction (2nd campaign).
Exactly what you will see when loading the save for the first time:
Diff. levelHardest (hero)
HeroAgrail (Demon Lord) Level 12
StatsAttack-6
Defense-1
Spellpower-4
Knowledge-5
Army50 Imps
20 Hellhounds
8 Succubi
2 Pit Lords
BUMMorale = 0
Luck = 0
Mana = 50
Art.none
MagicPunishing Strike
Create Phantom
Stone Skin
Ice Bolt
Divine Strength
SkillsBasic Gate Opening
Advanced Logistics/Pathfinding/Scouting
Basic Sorcery/Wisdom
Basic Attack/Battle Frenzy
Advanced Chaos Magic/Storm Lord
Prof. and Special SkillsAura of Speed
Hellfire
Resourceswood=10
ore=10
mercury=5
crystal=5
sulfur=5
gem=5
gold=5000

PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT
Player Nickname Number of DAYS Stats Amount of MERCURY AGRAIL LevelMap Description Battle with Gilraen DescriptionScreenShotsRank
1 Shoot-nick 13 13+1+4+7=25 2218Yes Yes Yes ???
2 Bandit 15 12+1+4+8=25417NoYes Yes ???
3 Supreme 22 13+1+5+7=261519YesYes Yes ???
4 Geser24 12+3+4+9=28019YesYes Yes ???
5 K@lb@zzer24 12+3+4+7=26018YesYes Yes ???
6 DeMoN26 14+1+4+7=261118YesYes Yes ???
7 Iron Axe28 15+1+6+9=312121NoNo No ???
8 AlexeyPank30 13+3+6+7=29019YesYes No ???
9 fanat3514+1+4+8=27218NoYes No ???
10 VDV_forever37 14+1+6+8=295420NoNo No ???
11 Necro7839 13+1+6+10=305821YesYes No ???
12 Sterh39 12+2+4+7=253218YesYes Yes ???
13 Х@од из Фы@а61 13+2+5+10=30522YesYes Yes ???
14 Varg-Nar9614+5+9+9=378024YesYes No ???
15 Paladin104 14+5+8+11=3812924NoYes Yes ???
16 di_ps114 14+1+5+7=271619 YesYes No ???
17Svyatoslav137 12+3+7+12=346722YesYesNo ???
18 Evil_Hearted230 14+5+9+10=3817124NoYes No ???
FINAL RESULTS OF THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT
Player Nickname Number of DAYS Stats Amount of MERCURY Map Description RatingRank
1 Shoot-nick 13 13+1+4+7=25 22***50 ???
2 Bandit 15 12+1+4+8=254***45???
3 Supreme 22 13+1+5+7=2615***40???
4 Geser24 12+3+4+9=280***36???
5 K@lb@zzer24 12+3+4+7=260***34???
6 DeMoN26 14+1+4+7=2611***32???
7 Iron Axe28 15+1+6+9=3121***30???
8 AlexeyPank30 13+3+6+7=290***28???
9 fanat3514+1+4+8=272***26???
10 VDV_forever37 14+1+6+8=2954***24???
11 Necro7839 13+1+6+10=3058***20???
12 Sterh39 12+2+4+7=2532***18???
13 Х@од из Фы@а61 13+2+5+10=305***16???
14 Varg-Nar9614+5+9+9=3780***14???
15 Paladin104 14+5+8+11=38129***12???
16 di_ps114 14+1+5+7=2716*** 10???
17Svyatoslav137 12+3+7+12=3467***8???
18 Evil_Hearted230 14+5+9+10=38171***6???


The question marks in the player rank column will be changed to numbers once we come up with a functional rank calculation scheme. Then we will try to get it approved by our respected ADMIN!

The asterisks in the Map Description column will be replaced by numbers when the voting results are tallied!

P.S. See my rank scheme in the corresponding section.

ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION AND MYSELF PERSONALLY, I CONGRATULATE Shoot-nick ON A WELL-DESERVED VICTORY!!!

Sincerely VDV_forever
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P.S. Besides Shoot-nick, his save will be reviewed by me especially carefully!

Best regards, VDV_forever

^_^ I seem to be lucky again; I think I wrote a detailed description. Try to follow my description, and you will see that there is nothing unfair about this solution.
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^_^ I got lucky again; I think I wrote a detailed description. Try following my instructions, and you'll see that there's nothing unfair about this solution.

It's definitely possible to complete it in just over three weeks. I realized this based on my own result, taking into account the final battle and the path I had already explored in the dark. :)

So, I personally don't understand why they would even consider reviewing the save file.
No, but that's okay with you :D What do I have to do with it? :D

I was even messing around, opening the red tent, then running through the fountain of magic doubling, and then I returned and took two gold mines near the first Elven fortress, and only then did I go forward to the second Elven fortress. Who needs my stupid description!
:D :D :D
Where I easily lose a week because I played this map for the first time and knew that I wouldn't have time to replay it.

I finished the description of the first week :) Judge, maybe I should send it to you in parts; maybe you'll get tired of reading my walkthrough in the description of the second week, and you'll accept my save file???
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Just arrived. I'm shocked by the arguments that have arisen.
1) Regarding 2 IronAxe, the rules stated that the organizer could request a description, and he did. What's the problem? If you don't want to write it, don't submit it, and your save won't be counted. Let's compare them for fun.
2) Regarding the bug with the Druids, you need to play through the entire map properly, not take advantage of the fact that you know everything. Otherwise, you'll win in a couple of days. However, considering that this wasn't specified in the rules, it can be forgiven for the first time.

P.S. I would be happy to read a walkthrough from those who completed the map in less than a month. If it's not too much trouble, please send it to my email or message me.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Just arrived. I'm shocked by the disputes that have arisen.
1) 2 IronAxe - the rules stated that the organizer could request a description, and he did, so what is the problem? If you don't want to write it, don't send it and your save will not be counted; just compare for interest.

Quote this point verbatim from the rules. He could actually demand a description of six months of a Walkthrough. Everyone already knows that I finished in exactly 28 days and my result is far-far-far from being the best - so why the hell does he need my description?

Since it's like this, he himself gave a deadline until the 14th in the thread. So let him not rush. If I manage to write it sooner - I'll send it sooner, but so far I've only managed to describe the first week and 2-3 days of the second. The thing is that I'm a graphomaniac, so if I start writing, I write in great detail, plus sometimes to what is relevant, I add a lot of irrelevant stuff, like jokes and gags :D
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1) By the way, regarding mission 5, there's one guess:
If you capture all the castles first and then defeat Gilraen, mission 5 will start immediately, but if you do it the other way around, mission 4 will start. I think this bug was described on the Nival forum.
2) By the way, here's another bug: if you defeat the druids who are standing in a ring before capturing the Southern Elven castle, it will be impossible to complete the mission.
The first bug is incorrect. I finished it exactly like that (all castles -> Gilraen), and mission 4 started.
The second one isn't significant; even if it's true, it's not a big deal. It takes too much time to get to the druids and then head south. You probably won't make it in a month...
VDV_forever
Your save has already been counted!!! I think I already wrote about this;
So, there's nothing more to do. Wait for the final results. :)
Sincerely, VDV_forever
I, like Khodo from Fya, apparently misunderstood your message :) I'm eagerly awaiting the results.
You have a difficult job, dear VDV_Forever :) I don't envy you....
VDV_forever
After all, in the first case, the mission is still completed, but in the second case, it is not, so I cannot credit such a save, even if I wanted to. But on the other hand...
In general, what do you think, users, should I credit this save or not???Sincerely, VDV_forever
I think not! :D Just kidding.
It's difficult for us users to judge... I don't even fully understand what the bug is, IMHO. If the mission isn't completed, it means something hasn't been done => the mission hasn't been completed. Where is the checkbox missing? You could do this: announce preliminary results and post shoot-nick's save and descriptions for public discussion. When everyone understands what the error is and who is wrong, then discuss it... It's all IMHO, of course.
We're waiting for your decision and the results.

Sincerely, Supreme
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Shadow Master - Clan Leader

Стань лучше и сам пойми, кто ты, прежде чем встретишь нового человека и будешь надеятся, что он тебя поймет. (с)

Элистион - 3-е место в Расовом Вопросе!
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Please provide this point verbatim from the rules. It could potentially require a description and six months of gameplay. Everyone already knows that I completed it in exactly 28 days, and my result is far from the best – so why would he need my description?

:D
You see, our tournament is only happening for the first time, so the rule regarding additional information may not be ideal, but its meaning is clear: if a player is suspected of cheating, additional saves with a detailed description of each day may be required (basically, something like that). After the tournament, this point may be revised.
"Если свет который во мне есть тьма, то какова тогда тьма?"

Ушел в Аллоды Онлайн!:)
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Where is the appetizer... I'm already hungry. :) :) :D
Мечем и Магией мы пробьем себе дорогу к славе!!!
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As for the time you have to submit the description, I think the esteemed VDV_FOREVER will make the most appropriate decision.
The judge has already made a decision, and it would look bad if he started changing it. I am providing an excerpt from this topic in case you cannot scroll back a few pages.
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P.S. Almost all saves have been reviewed, except for 2! I will look at and evaluate them tomorrow.
P.S.S. Players to whom I sent a request must submit the description by July 14! I hope you have enough time.
If I don't receive it, your save will not be counted and will be considered a cheat!!!
P.S.S.S. It is also necessary to send a VERY detailed description of the walkthrough of the tournament map to the following players:
Iron Axe
Shoot-nick

Sincerely, VDV_forever
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See, a very detailed description is required. And it is not done quickly. This requires loading each save, looking at how the Hero's stats change, what losses are incurred in battles, etc., and remembering a lot from memory!
fanat

P.S. I suggest counting the results that raise doubts as preliminary and requesting descriptions two or three days before the final results are announced.

And here I absolutely agree with you. So as not to keep everyone waiting because of me, let them post the preliminary results today. I promise to be able to submit the description within the time frame previously set by the judge. I can send the description in parts, if the judge wishes. Perhaps after reading the description, the judge will understand in 1 or 2 weeks that everything is fine with the walkthrough. Then the final results will be published earlier.
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I don't think so! :D Just kidding. It's hard for us users to judge... I don't even fully understand what the bug is about. IMHO, if a mission doesn't end, it means something hasn't been done, so the mission hasn't been completed. Where is the missing checkmark? We could announce preliminary results and post the save file and descriptions from Mr. Shoot-nick for everyone to discuss. Once everyone understands the error and who is wrong, we can discuss it... It's all just my opinion, of course. We're waiting for your decision and the results. Hmm... haha, I completed the mission normally (all checkmarks are present :D), and that case occurred when I was playing this mission for the first time (not as part of the tournament). I already sent the description a long time ago; we
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You see, our tournament is only being held for the first time, so the rule regarding additional information may not be perfect, but its meaning is clear: if a player is suspected of cheating, they may be required to provide additional save files with a detailed description of each day (basically, something like that). After the tournament, this rule may be refined.
You understand, it turns out that only fast results are being suspected of cheating, but why not suspect slow results?! I'm exaggerating. One player completed it in 2 months, another in 3. Both are far from the prize-winning places, but maybe the one who completed it in 2 months was cheating unsuccessfully, and wouldn't the one who completed it honestly in three months feel bad? I suggest refining the rule regarding the announcement of results and checks. Fanat, browse the topic; my suggestion is there. The essence is that the preliminary results should be announced immediately after the submission of save files. At the same time, a list of players who must send additional materials for verification should be published, indicating WHO and WHAT specific materials are required. These players must confirm their willingness to fulfill these requirements within the time frame set by the judge. And only after that will the final results be announced.
This is practically the same as what you write in your post. I personally am in favor of this.
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I, too, like Х®одо from Фы®а, apparently misunderstood your message :) I am looking forward to the results.
You have a difficult task, dear VDV_Forever :) I don't envy you....
On the contrary, I understood everything perfectly - shoot-nick and IronAxe were supposed to provide a detailed description, since after mission 3, they have mission 5. Presumably, this is due to a violation of the championship rules (cheats or a patched game, or maybe something else). But I know one person who also has mission 5 after mission 3. He definitely didn't use cheats. You can simply ask him how he completed the mission, compare it with shoot-nick's and IronAxe's walkthroughs, and draw certain conclusions, which may mean that these people will not have to provide a description.
VDV_forever
Why are you so worried? Everything is fine with you! Your save has also been counted :)! Wait for the final results!

Sincerely, VDV_forever
And I'm not worried. :D I think I did everything right, I even took a screenshot of the battle with Gilraen out of boredom. :rolleyes:
IronAxe
Do you understand that it turns out that only fast results are suspected of cheating, but why not suspect slow ones!? I'm exaggerating. One completed it in 2 months, the other in 3. Both are far from the prize-winning places, but maybe the one who completed it in 2 months cheated unsuccessfully, and wouldn't the one who completed it honestly in three months feel bad about it? I suggest improving the announcement of results and checks. Fanat, look through the topic, there is my suggestion. The essence is this - the preliminary results should be announced immediately after the acceptance of saves. At the same time, a list of players who need to send additional materials for verification, indicating WHO and WHAT exactly materials. These players must confirm their willingness to fulfill these requirements within the time frame set by the judge. And after that, the final results will be announced.
This is almost the same as you write in your post. I personally am in favor of such a thing.
Well said - cheated unsuccessfully. :p And what does "additional materials for verification, indicating WHO and WHAT exactly materials" mean? How will VDV forever know where a person cheated? Therefore, the phrase "certain materials" sounds unconvincing. To accurately say that cheats were not used, you need to check the uploaded battle log - are there too many units, too much money, does the hero move too far in a day, etc. And if nothing causes doubts, then you can talk about the absence of cheats.
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What does "additional materials for verification, specifying WHO and WHAT materials" mean? How is VDV forever supposed to know where a player cheated? Therefore, the phrase "specific materials" sounds unconvincing. To accurately state that no cheats were used, you need to check the recorded battle log - are there too many units, too much money, is the hero moving too far in a single day, etc. And if nothing raises doubts, then you can say that no cheats were used.
I've already written about this. Let's say that from the 1st to the 3rd submissions, a full description of the game is provided. From the 4th and 5th, only screenshots and a description of the final battle are provided. I understand that you can't check everyone. And in this case, players don't know what place their save can potentially achieve without any preliminary information. The judge determines the criteria for who should write the description and forces the specified people to write a lengthy text. If he announced preliminary results, the player would decide for himself whether it's worth fighting for that place and writing a description. He has an alternative solution: to refuse to write a description and withdraw his save from the tournament. I don't know how many people completed it faster than 28 days. If, let's say, there are more than 10, I would withdraw my save just to avoid writing a description. But if there are only 3, I would gladly write a description to secure 4th place. But here, the judge tells me - if you want to write it, if you don't want to, it's up to you. If you don't write it, the save is considered cheating and is removed from the tournament. In my opinion, this is not right! I don't know what I should strive for and spend days writing a description for?! Just to please L.N. Tolstoy? :) Doesn't anyone think that someday they will find themselves in a similar situation? Would you like your result if you don't know your preliminary place, and you are asked to provide a detailed description day by day? And, to make matters worse, you won't have free time in real life. That's when you'll start to worry. But in this case, you probably won't be supported by anyone, except for me, of course. So, this point needs to be discussed in advance before the next tournament! And even if you don't have free time, but in the preliminary results, you see yourself in 1st place, you will probably find the time to write a description at night (now not like L.N. Tolstoy, but like V.I. Lenin!). :)

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The first bug is incorrect. I finished exactly like that (all Castles -> Gilraen) and I get the 4th mission.
But I did it like this (2 Castles, Druids, 3rd Castle, Gilraen) and they say that I get the 5th mission. I think that shoot-nick played in a similar sequence. And I really managed to complete it in a month and see that if I replay it, I can complete it even faster using the same scheme. It turns out that you didn't eliminate the Druids. In that case, my question is, why does your mission end if not all the conditions of the map are met? The question of what mission comes next in light of this question is already secondary. In our case with shoot-nick, everything is completed ON THIS MAP. And I don't care what mission comes next.
Supreme

It takes too much time to go to the Druids and then south. You probably won't even have time in a month...
Not probably, but DEFINITELY, it can be completed in a month. And there is clearly a margin of about a week or a little less! shoot-nick claims that he is playing on an unpatched, licensed version. Does anyone know how to tell the difference between a patched and an unpatched version? I have "Version 1.0" written in italic, slanted font on the left of the main menu on my main screen. Is this correct? I understand that on a patched version, there should be some letter after 1.0. Can anyone explain this clearly?
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What about my save file? Or rather, what about my walkthrough? I've replied twice in private messages and sent an email, but I still haven't received a response.
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shoot-nick claims he's playing on an unpatched, licensed version. Can anyone tell me how to tell the difference between a patched and an unpatched version? I have the version number displayed in italic, slanted font in Russian on the main screen, to the left of the main menu: Version 1.0. Is that correct? I understand that a patched version should have some letter after 1.0. Can anyone explain this clearly?
The patch updates the game to version 1.1.
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the patch updates the game to version 1.1
So, it seems I'm good to go regarding the version.
I didn't make a mistake, shoot-nick, were you eliminating Druids as instructed by the map?

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