The first Offline Tournaments for Heroes 5! — Tournament history (offline)

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VDV_forever

20 years ago

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$ PRIZE POOL $

PrizeA:

Licensed DVD-BOX of Heroes of Might and Magic V (with delivery)
Fan t-shirt in your size(XL,L,M,XXL) with the Heroes Of Might And Magic V logo

PrizeB: A profile award (like the one given to respected nprf for winning the 1st Heroes 3 tournament over at HeroesV.net.ru)

PrizeB, [PrizeA(1) or PrizeA(2) {winner's choice}] is awarded to the player who takes first place in the tournament according to the tournament rules.

TOURNAMENT RULES

1. To participate in the first offline tournament, you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru and also submit an application in this thread
2. The tournament is held on the Russian version of Heroes 5
3. Game version 1.0
4. The submitted save must contain the tournament number (1) and the player's Nickname
example 1_VDV_forever.sav
5. Along with the submitted save, it is mandatory to provide a description of the final step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, defeating the last monster) after which victory occurs, or the walkthrough of the scenario.
6. The submitted save must have only one conqueror hero who performs the final action (others should simply be dismissed).
7. Patches, cheats, codes, mods, as well as additional programs that can change the game structure are FORBIDDEN!
8. Results will be evaluated primarily based on minimum time.
If several players have an equal completion time, the best will be determined by the sum of primary skills (attack, defense, magic, knowledge); if a favorite is still not determined, then by the amount of mercury.
9. The conqueror hero in the submitted save must be without artifacts (they can be placed in the backpack or transferred to another hero who should then be dismissed).
10. Ashi's Tear can only be dug up when the puzzle map is fully opened (this will not happen in this tournament).
11. Send the save to the email address h5_tournament@heroesworld.ru
12. Applications are accepted until June 19, 2006. If you're late, you've missed out
13. In case of suspicion of cheating or other malicious intent during the map completion, a save must be made every game day.
P.S. In such a case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional saves and provide a walkthrough description to determine whether the play was unfair or fair.
The result of a player who played unfairly will be voided and their reputation on our site will be "morale down"!
14. Discussion of the tournament during its progress is FORBIDDEN!!!
(Players violating this rule automatically lose the opportunity to play in the tournament; their results will not be counted and will be annulled).
15. The tournament starts on the 19th and will last for 19 days. Results will be announced 19 days after its conclusion. [You can still apply and participate in the competitions within 5 days after the start of the tournament, i.e., until 00:00 (GMT) 25.06.06]
16. After receiving your save, we will notify you of receipt via your mailbox on our website www.heroesworld.ru

17*. For this tournament:

If you killed the main opponent Gilraen and then completed the following task (killed the last weak hero, captured a castle, or something else) after which absolute victory occurs, the description of the battle with Gilraen MUST be sent together with the save!!! That is, in this case, you will have to provide 2 descriptions (instead of one):
a) battle with Gilraen
b) final winning step

The description should look approximately like this:
Attacking Gilraen with hero Agrail.
Agrail has:
Level N,
army size.
Gilraen has:
Level N,
army size.
And then describe the battle itself.

Tournament Sponsor Respected ADMIN!!!

P.S. I wish all tournament participants a great time gaming and, most importantly, VICTORY!

P.S.S. If there are any additions or remarks, please do not hesitate to speak up to minimize disagreements and shortcomings during the tournament process

PARTICIPANT LIST FOR THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT!
NUMBER	PLAYER NICKNAME
1	VDV_forever
2	*JOKER*
3	КАНТ
4	Night
5	Борис
6	Vladushka
7	BlazinPimp
8	Dimusik
9	sterh
10	Carmack
11	leshan
12	SandroTM
13	fanat
14	Karatel SS Varjag
15	Aleksandrkalin
16	Diesel
17	Geser
18	Rojok
19	Intruder
20	Halfing
21	DarkOne
22	dontes
23	VaRyG
24	Sablik
25	Supreme
26	Ежик в тумане
27	necko78
28	kop
29	AlexeyPank
30	Faer
31	Paladin
32	gluck
33	Tank 2
34	Philip
35	kazyabr
36	di ps
37	Skeleton Darkknight
38	sjava
39	Evil Hearted
40	GvozD
41	LordOrder7
42	Kiselev Yura
43	Xaker
44	Rogvold
45	mudvaLing
46	BAXtheGREATEST
47	dartRevan
48	shoot-nick
49	KOLb@zzer
50	Svyatoslav
51	Steep
52	Х®одо из Фы®а
53	Ivanuraser
54	Lap1976
55	Strelok
56	Bandit
57	Rean
58	Krivol
58	DeMoN
59	Rustam
60	Varg-Nar
61	Carrion
62	D3lirium
63	vladislav5
64	Krong
65	Illipyk
66	emfoot
67	IronAxe
68	Андрей

This list can be expanded by new participants!
The tournament starts on 19.06.06 (Monday)!!!
Saves will only be considered for players who are in this table, so submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!

Everything about the starting save

Starting Save

From 19.06.06 the save can be downloaded:
1st mirror
2nd mirror

1. The save that will be posted on our site (19.06.06) must be downloaded and placed on your computer in the following folder C:\Documents and Settings\VDV_forever\My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\VDV_forever\Saves[br][/br]2. Naturally, everyone has their own nickname, so in each individual case it will be approximately: C:\Documents and Settings\X\My Documents\My Games\Heroes of Might and Magic V\Profiles\X\Saves[br][/br>where X is simply the name under which you usually play
3. Load 19.06.06_offline.sav and start playing, making daily saves.
4. After reaching the final action (after which victory occurs), save again.
5. With the final save, describe this last step in detail (most likely a battle); then the results will be tallied faster and there will be fewer suspicions of cheating!!!
6. Send this save to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).
7. Wait for the results.

The starting save was generated from the "Conquest" map (3rd map) of the standard campaign for the Inferno faction (2nd campaign).

Exactly what you will see when loading the save for the first time:
Diff. level	Hardest (hero)
Hero	Agrail (Demon Lord) Level 12
Stats	Attack-6 Defense-1 Spellpower-4 Knowledge-5
Army	50 Imps 20 Hellhounds 8 Succubi 2 Pit Lords
BUM	Morale = 0 Luck = 0 Mana = 50
Art.	none
Magic	Punishing Strike Create Phantom Stone Skin Ice Bolt Divine Strength
Skills	Basic Gate Opening Advanced Logistics/Pathfinding/Scouting Basic Sorcery/Wisdom Basic Attack/Battle Frenzy Advanced Chaos Magic/Storm Lord
Prof. and Special Skills	Aura of Speed Hellfire
Resources	wood=10 ore=10 mercury=5 crystal=5 sulfur=5 gem=5 gold=5000

PRELIMINARY RESULTS OF THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT
№	Player Nickname	Number of DAYS	Stats	Amount of MERCURY	AGRAIL Level	Map Description	Battle with Gilraen Description	ScreenShots	Rank
1	Shoot-nick	13	13+1+4+7=25	22	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
2	Bandit	15	12+1+4+8=25	4	17	No	Yes	Yes	???
3	Supreme	22	13+1+5+7=26	15	19	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
4	Geser	24	12+3+4+9=28	0	19	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
5	K@lb@zzer	24	12+3+4+7=26	0	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
6	DeMoN	26	14+1+4+7=26	11	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
7	Iron Axe	28	15+1+6+9=31	21	21	No	No	No	???
8	AlexeyPank	30	13+3+6+7=29	0	19	Yes	Yes	No	???
9	fanat	35	14+1+4+8=27	2	18	No	Yes	No	???
10	VDV_forever	37	14+1+6+8=29	54	20	No	No	No	???
11	Necro78	39	13+1+6+10=30	58	21	Yes	Yes	No	???
12	Sterh	39	12+2+4+7=25	32	18	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
13	Х@од из Фы@а	61	13+2+5+10=30	5	22	Yes	Yes	Yes	???
14	Varg-Nar	96	14+5+9+9=37	80	24	Yes	Yes	No	???
15	Paladin	104	14+5+8+11=38	129	24	No	Yes	Yes	???
16	di_ps	114	14+1+5+7=27	16	19	Yes	Yes	No	???
17	Svyatoslav	137	12+3+7+12=34	67	22	Yes	Yes	No	???
18	Evil_Hearted	230	14+5+9+10=38	171	24	No	Yes	No	???

FINAL RESULTS OF THE 1st offline HEROES 5 TOURNAMENT
№	Player Nickname	Number of DAYS	Stats	Amount of MERCURY	Map Description	Rating	Rank
1	Shoot-nick	13	13+1+4+7=25	22	***	50	???
2	Bandit	15	12+1+4+8=25	4	***	45	???
3	Supreme	22	13+1+5+7=26	15	***	40	???
4	Geser	24	12+3+4+9=28	0	***	36	???
5	K@lb@zzer	24	12+3+4+7=26	0	***	34	???
6	DeMoN	26	14+1+4+7=26	11	***	32	???
7	Iron Axe	28	15+1+6+9=31	21	***	30	???
8	AlexeyPank	30	13+3+6+7=29	0	***	28	???
9	fanat	35	14+1+4+8=27	2	***	26	???
10	VDV_forever	37	14+1+6+8=29	54	***	24	???
11	Necro78	39	13+1+6+10=30	58	***	20	???
12	Sterh	39	12+2+4+7=25	32	***	18	???
13	Х@од из Фы@а	61	13+2+5+10=30	5	***	16	???
14	Varg-Nar	96	14+5+9+9=37	80	***	14	???
15	Paladin	104	14+5+8+11=38	129	***	12	???
16	di_ps	114	14+1+5+7=27	16	***	10	???
17	Svyatoslav	137	12+3+7+12=34	67	***	8	???
18	Evil_Hearted	230	14+5+9+10=38	171	***	6	???

The question marks in the player rank column will be changed to numbers once we come up with a functional rank calculation scheme. Then we will try to get it approved by our respected ADMIN!

The asterisks in the Map Description column will be replaced by numbers when the voting results are tallied!

P.S. See my rank scheme in the corresponding section.

ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION AND MYSELF PERSONALLY, I CONGRATULATE Shoot-nick ON A WELL-DESERVED VICTORY!!!

Sincerely VDV_forever

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IronAxe

20 years ago

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shoot-nick

by the way, regarding mission 5, there's one guess:
if you capture all the castles first, and then defeat Gilraen, mission 5 will start immediately, but if you do it the other way around, it will be mission 4, I think this bug was described on the Nival forum. Anyone who wants can test it, if they are interested, I'm no longer interested in this map, and I'm tired of it, I've gotten everything I can out of it.

by the way, here's another bug: if you defeat the druids who are standing in a ring before capturing the Southern Elven castle, it will be impossible to complete the mission.

That's how it is :) And I thought the judge meant the order of completing the missions on the map :)))

Well, all the more so, if several people have experienced a similar glitch, it confirms that it is actually a glitch, especially if someone has already talked about it.

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Х®одо из Фы®а

Dear VDV forever, isn't it a bit harsh to require a daily record of actions?
I also know someone who goes to mission 5 after mission 3. If I ask him about how he completed the mission, maybe shoot-nick and IronAxe won't have to make records.

Thank you for your understanding and support :)
I was just guessing, and now I know for sure that there are better results than I achieved. I know that there are even descriptions of playthroughs from some players with better results. That's why I don't understand why anyone needs my description. Well, the judge will check, but in general, the value of the description is only in the description of the leader's playthrough. That is, they are suggesting that I do monkey work. And I wouldn't mind providing a description, if the preliminary results were announced. In this case, the player would have the freedom to choose based on the available data :), but there isn't any. And Heroes are freedom-loving people :)

Therefore, for subsequent tournaments, I suggest discussing such a scheme.
Players send in one final save.
The judge simply announces the preliminary results the next day after the deadline for submitting saves, as well as a list of leaders (let's say from 1st to 3rd place or to 5th) who must send in additional materials for verification. Let's say from 1st to 3rd
must send in a complete description of the playthroughs. And from 4th to 5th, only a description of the final battle and screenshots from it.
And there will be no need to torture everyone with literary exercises.
If someone doesn't want to fulfill the verification requirements, they are excluded from the list. The list shifts. The judge directly asks the newly appearing leaders if they are ready to fulfill the requirements, that is, to provide everything in the near future. No, the list moves on.
Yes, time is given to fulfill the requirements, then the judge analyzes the received materials for verification and the final list is published. In my opinion, it's logical.

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VDV_forever

20 years ago

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Supreme

I read the discussions here... Hmm, maybe it's better to discuss such things in private messages?

You are absolutely right, dear Supreme! But some people don't want to. :)

Supreme

Dear VDV_forever. Do I need to write a complete, detailed description of each step (following the Varg-Nar scheme), or is it enough to provide what I sent: a description of the goals, the challenges that arise along the way, and the ways to solve them?
If it's really necessary, I can write it, although I really wouldn't want to... It would be better if there's a question about a specific day (you can't go through it like that), then describe it and ask, and do it through private messages.
It's all just my opinion, of course, but I don't think the rules should be changed, and I don't think we should burden people with extra work.
I wonder, is this me, Lev Nikolaevich? :p :D ?
Sincerely, Supreme

Your save has already been counted!!! I think I already wrote about it. ;)
So there's nothing else needed. Wait for the final results. :)

Sincerely, VDV_forever

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VDV_forever

20 years ago

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Hello from VDV

Dear VDV forever, isn't it a bit too harsh to require a daily log of actions?

And what are you so worried about? Everything is fine with you! Your save has also been counted :)! Wait for the results!

Sincerely, VDV_forever

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VDV_forever

20 years ago

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Well, firstly, IronAxe: I never do anything thoughtlessly!!! Secondly, the scheme you propose is already used by me when summarizing the results (with some minor deviations), so don't think you've discovered something new :D. It's simple: I requested descriptions from those who completed the game in less than 28 days. I requested them from some for other reasons, known only to me (to detect cheating). I think everyone wants to see the real results of the players, but not the cheaters!!! And I try to prevent this!!! Preliminary results will probably appear tomorrow!!! Shoot-nick: Regarding bugs: Regarding mission 5, I think you are right. It would be even better if you posted this information on our website or provided a link to it. But regarding the druids... hmm... I don't even know what to do??? Should I consider this a bug or not??? Because in the first case, the mission is still completed, but in the second case, it is not, so I cannot credit such a save, no matter how much I want to. Although, on the other hand... In general, what do you think, users, should I credit such a save or not??? Sincerely, VDV_forever

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IronAxe

20 years ago

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VDV_forever

First of all, IronAxe:
I never do anything thoughtlessly!!!
Secondly, the scheme you propose is already being used by me when summarizing the results (with some minor deviations), so don't think you've discovered something new :D.
It's simple: I requested descriptions from those who completed the game in less than 28 days.

But in my opinion, you are changing your decisions and rules on the fly. I completed the game in exactly 28 days. And you are writing that descriptions should be provided by those who completed it faster than 28 days. I don't fall into this category.
If you now say that you suspected me of cheating, I will answer that why not suspect the player who completed it in
6 MONTHS of cheating. Maybe he also cheated, but not very well. Ask him for a description too :D

So, are you still demanding a description from me, violating your own rules, or will you still accept my save? I sent a detailed description of the final battle and screenshots from it.
In my opinion, this is enough for such a result as mine, don't you think?

And if 30 people completed the game faster than 28 days, what, should everyone write descriptions :)
It's much easier to identify the top three from them based on additional parameters that are specified in the tournament rules and ask for descriptions only from them. Don't you care about your own time? It's one thing to check 30 playthroughs, and another to check only 3.
Is there a difference? Do you feel it :)

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VDV_forever

20 years ago

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IronAxe

I think you're changing your decisions and rules on the fly. I completed it in exactly 28 days. But you're saying that descriptions should be provided by those who completed it FASTER than 28 days. I don't fall into that category.
If you now say that you suspect me of cheating, I'll answer that why not suspect the player who completed it in
6 MONTHS of cheating. Maybe he also cheated, but not very well. Ask him for a description too :D

So, are you still demanding a description from me, violating your own rules, or will you still accept my save?
I sent a very detailed description of the final battle and screenshots from it.
I think that's enough for such a result as mine, don't you?

Sorry:), 28 days inclusive:D :D :D
I've already requested it from those who need it.

No, it's not enough:mad: I'm waiting for your description!!!

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IronAxe

20 years ago

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VDV_forever

Sorry :) , 28 days inclusive :D :D :D
I've already requested it from those who need it.

No, it's not enough :mad: I'm waiting for your description!!!

Well, I'm saying, all the corrections are being made on the fly :)
If the preliminary results are tomorrow, then my description will be ready by the 14th. In other words, I will write the description after the announcement of the preliminary results.
Morning money - evening chairs, evening money - morning chairs :)
(c. "The Twelve Chairs")

VDV_forever

Preliminary results will likely appear tomorrow!!!

That's right. The results are called PRELIMINARY because the analysis is not yet considered complete :)

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shoot-nick

20 years ago

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as for the druids... hmm... I'm not sure what to do. Should I consider this a bug or not?

After all, in the first case, the mission is still completed, but in the second case, it is not, so I can't possibly accept such a save. But on the other hand...
So, what do you think, users, should I accept such a save or not?

Sincerely, VDV_forever[/QUOTE]

hmm... I don't think anyone sent a save where the mission wasn't completed. I myself stumbled upon this developer error by chance when I was playing for the first time (right after the official release). It reminds me of their bug with the bone dragons in the necromancer's mission.

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IronAxe

20 years ago

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shoot-nick

Hmm... I don't think anyone submitted a save where the mission wasn't completed. I stumbled upon this developer error myself when playing for the first time (right after the official release). It reminds me of their bug with the bone dragons in the Necromancer mission.

I think I saw someone mention in the thread that their mission wouldn't end. I think such a save could be considered valid, but only if all the map conditions are met, namely:
1. The border has been crossed.
2. ALL fortresses have been captured.
3. All enemy heroes have been destroyed.
4. The monks in the circle have been destroyed.

It should be easy for the judge to check if these conditions are

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Evil Hearted

20 years ago

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IronAxe

I think I saw someone mention in the thread that their mission wouldn't end. I think such a save could be counted, but only if all the map's conditions are met, namely:
1. The border has been crossed.
2. ALL fortresses have been captured.
3. All enemy heroes have been destroyed.
4. The monks in the circle have been destroyed.

It should be easy for the judge to check if these conditions are met and see what day it is. Is that how it works?

The map cannot be completed if you first defeat the druidish gathering and then capture the first elven town – is this a bug, or was it intentionally designed by the developers to make the game more challenging?

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IronAxe

20 years ago

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Evil Hearted

The map cannot be completed if you first destroy the druid stronghold and then capture the first Elven town – I don't know if this is a bug or if the developers intended it this way, so that life wouldn't seem too easy!

So what? The map conditions state that you must destroy all strongholds.
Let's say you destroy the stronghold and don't take the first Elven town; will the map then be completed?

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Evil Hearted

20 years ago

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IronAxe

So what? The map conditions state that you need to conquer all fortresses. Let's say you conquer the Sylvan faction and don't take the first Elven town, will the map still be completed?

No, it won't. I struggled with it for a long time until I finally figured it out...

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Geser

20 years ago

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IronAxe

Who needs a manual on how to beat this map in three months when it can be easily completed in one month, or even faster? I would read a manual on how to beat it in three weeks. And I don't think anyone will read the other manuals if they see a description of how to complete it in three weeks.

It is possible to complete it in three weeks;) , but that's for the particularly persistent:) , otherwise, you can manage it in a month without too much effort…:rolleyes:

Although, maybe I'm wrong.

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VDV_forever

20 years ago

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So, regarding the preliminary results:

I request that you speed up the process of providing detailed descriptions for each day:

IronAxe
DeMoN
Bandit

I have no complaints about the other participants in the tournament!

P.S. Except for Shoot-nick, his save will be reviewed by me especially carefully!

Sincerely, VDV_forever

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IronAxe

20 years ago

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Evil Hearted

No, it won't work. I struggled for a very long time until it finally dawned on me...

That's what I'm talking about, so if a mission doesn't end, but all the map conditions are met, you can send the save file, which the judge should accept.

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VDV_forever

So, regarding the preliminary results:
I ask you to speed up with detailed descriptions for each day:
Sincerely, VDV_forever

Then wait until the 14th. That's what you stated in this thread.
If I finish earlier, I'll send it. I'm used to making detailed descriptions.
I can't do it any other way :) I'm finishing the description of the first week now, and I'm doing it so quickly because today is a day off.

I just don't quite understand what the point of preliminary results is then :)
After receiving all the materials and conducting the checks, these will no longer be preliminary, but final results :)

"You don't have a closed fracture there, but an open fracture."
(from "Diamond Hand")