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Posts from The 3rd stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Tournament (2008).

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Offline Ley
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The third stage of the annual John Van Caneghem Heroes 3 tournament


TOURNAMENT RULES


1. To participate in this Heroes 3 "Devil's Gambit" tournament, you must register on our website www.heroesworld.ru and submit an application in this thread.

This tournament is part of the general John van Caneghem tournament, so all information, as well as the conduct and results, will be displayed in this section.
John Van Caneghem Tournament on HeroesWorld

Note: The final results of the tournament will also be available in the offline Heroes 3 tournaments section.

2. The tournament will be held on the Russian version of Heroes 3 SoD. The save file will be generated using version 3.2.

3. The goal of the game is to score the most points by the end of the scenario. The second criterion for victory is the number of days it takes the player to complete the scenario; if there is a tie in days and points, the winner will be determined by the total number of units – demons + horned demons – in the army of one hero.

The submitted save file must contain the abbreviation (VC - van Caneghem) and the player's nickname.

Example:

VC_Ley.GM1 or VC-Ley.GM1


4. The result will primarily be evaluated based on the highest number of points.
You can find a link to calculate point scoring here:
/topic/1943/

5. Along with the submitted save file, you must include a description of the last step (battle with a hero, battle for a castle, capturing an artifact, defeating the last monster) after which the victory occurs, or the scenario is completed.

6. The submitted save file may have multiple heroes, but the third criterion will only be determined by the number of units of one hero.

7. You can read the rules for completing the save file here.

8. Send the save file to the email address Ley.

9. In case of suspicion that a player is cheating, or has other malicious intent while playing the map, it is necessary to create a save file for each game day.
In this case (detection of cheating), the player will be required to send additional save files and provide a description of the gameplay to determine whether the game was fair or not, to the tournament organizer.
The result of a player who played unfairly will be annulled, and their further participation in tournaments will be impossible. This will also affect their reputation negatively.

10. Discussion of the tournament during its course is PROHIBITED!!!
(Players who violate this rule will automatically lose the opportunity to participate in the tournament; their results will be canceled and not counted).

11. The tournament starts on April 8th and lasts until May 2nd (inclusive!). The results will be announced on May 6, 2008.

12. After you submit your save file, you will see in the application table that:

save accepted - indicated by a bold nickname.
save approved - indicated by an italicized – bold nickname.

We invite everyone to take part in the tournament!

Save files will only be considered from players who are listed in this table, so please submit your applications IN ADVANCE!!!



LIST OF PARTICIPANTS
NUMBERPLAYER NICKNAME
1 Dirty_Player
2 Vanechka
3 kj1313
4 VDV_forever
5 BigAke
6 SoulDrinker
7 SandroXXL
8 Kozak Vitalik
9 Necromancher
10Barsik13
11SpiriTT
12Blacpoint
13RAPER
14Romanuel
15Shogun
16ShadoWMaN
17Empty1
18Tish
19...

The starting save file will be released on April 8th
Everything about the starting save file


1. Download the save file.

2. The downloaded save file must be placed in the GAMES folder of your installed Heroes 3 game.

3. Load it and start playing at any time that is convenient for you, while remembering to create daily saves.

4. After reaching the last action (after which victory occurs), you need to save again.

5. With the final save file, provide a detailed description of the last step (most likely a battle); this will speed up the results process and reduce suspicions of cheating!!!

6. A complete description of the tournament map is encouraged (not required). If there are any, a competition will be held for the best description. The top five will take their place of honor in the "Feats of Our Best Heroes" section!

7. Send this save file to the specified address (in the rules of this tournament).

8. Wait for the results to be announced.

P.S. I wish everyone an excellent time playing the game and most importantly – VICTORY! And for myself, modestly – intrigue in this tournament... :)

P.S.S. If there are additions or comments, please do not hesitate to express them so as to minimize discrepancies and shortcomings during the tournament.
Sincerely yours, Ley.

Map and starting save file:
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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If you don't have the final version of the game, there's no point in shouting "Sign me up!"...
I not only support this but also suggest introducing a penalty system – if someone doesn't send saves for three offline games, for example, despite their claims, their rating should be reduced to zero, or even a negative value. Alternatively, the "Hall of Fame" portal should know its "heroes."
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2 Qwerty: and it's not just those you listed. I won't say exactly who, they all know anyway. Nevertheless, I've drawn my conclusions. The quorum shouldn't depend so much on the "level" of the map, in my opinion. As for the preliminary registration, we'll have to figure that out... :-)
"Единственное, что можно сказать с уверенностью об удаче - она изменит..."
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Barsik, WELL DONE! Keep it up! Finishing a map is already something! It's just a shame that we only have lazy people on our site! :(
I completely agree with AmberSoler. No preliminary registration is needed. We need something like:
I request to be registered in the tournament. I am sending the final version.
There's no need to just mess around like that!!!
For example, VDV_forever registered, complained, complained, and where is he now?
Fireball said that the VK tournament is important for the portal, etc., but when it came to the stage, the map didn't appeal to him. BB didn't appeal to him. Maybe we need to make maps with only two castles and a fast road?
Personally, I'm convinced that only those who are good at talking can work on our portal!!! Everyone has time problems. If someone can't play due to lack of time, that's not a problem. We are all human. Just don't beat your chest and shout: "I, yes, I, yes, I can do everything!!!"
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I already wrote about myself earlier at /post/175003/ ... I'm just too tired; look at the number of Tournaments played, and you shouldn't have any complaints.
I calculated the rating; the links are in my signature... Look at the General one, which has already been updated; I haven't calculated the Clans one yet.

P.S.: And I didn't even sign up for it, see...

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Fireball said that the Warlord Tournament was important for the portal and so on, but when it came to the actual stage, he said he didn't like the map.
He did talk about the importance of the Warlord Tournament for Heroes & Might & Magic, but I NEVER promised to play all the stages because I play for fun, not to maintain a higher number of participants. I played 12 out of 13 stages that have passed, and you played 1. And it's not up to you to accuse me of ignoring the Warlord Tournament. Also, if I signed up for a tournament, I always submitted the final result.
I didn't like the Battleground map. Maybe we should create maps with two castles and a fast route?
Maybe you should look at the number of participants and think about why some people don't mind playing in the second game, but are "too lazy" to play in the third. And maybe I'm not the only one who thinks that the map isn't suitable for a timed tournament? Just for fun, scroll through the history of the official tournaments and see how many times I criticized the map. In none of the remaining 13 cases.
Personally, I'm convinced that on our portal, people only know how to use words!!! Everyone has time problems. If someone can't play because they don't have time, that's not a problem. We're all human. Just don't beat your chest and shout: "I, yes, I, I can do everything!!!"
God willing, one day we'll meet in a tournament with a map that I'll want and have time to play. Then I'll answer.
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And why I fully support Fireball: :smile32:
Keep it up, Andrew! ;) Dirty_Player is just a very emotional guy, and sometimes he goes too far.

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Players who are too lazy, don't have time, are tired, or feel like they're wasting their weekends (maybe I forgot something else) are even less likely to participate in offline events than the map itself. Read your own post, Fireball, and see how many of 'our' players you missed in the final standings. Is the map bad? But it seems like 'everything is bad except for urine.' Offer your own, and I'm sure the turnout won't increase. Or, if it does, you'll end up competing with Derteeplayer in a race. In the fall. Next year. Maybe.
Истинно говорю вам: 21 декабря 2012 года Земля налетит на небесную ось!

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Hey, everyone! )) We went down the wrong path... The map is objectively complex, and its successful completion depends not only on playing skills but also on knowledge/understanding of the "quirks," luck, and other inevitable random factors... The appearance of a quest is one of the most interesting gameplay elements on the map, but let's be honest with ourselves – its solution shouldn't significantly affect the outcome of the Walkthrough... That's what happened in our case, which is why there was such a large number of no-shows... However, a tournament map should be closer to a standard one and have several alternative ways to complete it. Then, the leader's result will be objectively significant... But here, whoever figured it out wins, and whoever didn't – loses... This is the only drawback of tournament battles, but it is very significant in the end... And the map itself is excellent and beyond criticism. Anyone who has been involved in Mapmaking understands how difficult it is to balance a map, let alone "program" the AI's behavior... We're talking about the fact that it wasn't quite suitable for a tournament... But that's really the case... P.s. Who is responsible for the results table in the first post? It needs to be either deleted (preferably) or formatted properly...
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If God wills it, we'll meet at a tournament someday and play on a map that I'll be eager and have time to play. Then I'll give you an answer.
I really hope so. Among the portal residents, I haven't met you and Radik at tournaments.
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Suggest your own, I'm sure the quorum won't get any bigger. Or, if not, you'll meet Derтиплеер at the Race. In the fall. Next year. Maybe.
Actually, suggesting a map is not an easy task. And respect to those who provide a map that suits everyone. I personally was completely satisfied with Devil's Gambit! And whether we'll meet or not is a complicated question. If HeroesWorld doesn't go bust, I think we'll meet!!!

P.S.: To those who criticized the map, please suggest YOUR OWN, good one, for the next VK! At least just suggest it!!!!
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The map is excellent... and it's quite easy to complete using a winning strategy... those who can't figure it out are just noobs, that's all... I'm one of them, but I don't mind... by the way, I wouldn't mind playing more challenging maps like this in the future...
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Dude, that's not the point. Maybe not everyone likes this particular tournament/map. But there are others where people just write – no way, let's do it in the fall, etc. What's the conclusion here? Yeah, exactly...
Истинно говорю вам: 21 декабря 2012 года Земля налетит на небесную ось!

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and also – like all lazy players, I start playing a map in the last week or even later. As if I understand something and will achieve some result. This applies to Heroes 1 to 3. But Heroes 4 and 5, I try to play right away, and it doesn't give me anything, because the fourth game is something unattainable for me, and it's already too late to learn the fifth. But I am interested in the Warlord format, and I will try to play it to the end again. And, by the way, I am not ashamed of my saves at all. They are what they are.
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